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Rastor
Jun 2, 2001

anime was right posted:

i really dont think cynthia nixon will win but i would absolutely love for her to because it would completely undermine the fabric of the existing democratic structure

I would absolutely love for Cynthia to be locked out of the primary by the ny bad dems and then run as an independent and win

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Rastor
Jun 2, 2001

Matt Zerella posted:

Can't wait to get purged from the rolls when I vote for Ocasio Cortez and Nixon in 2 weeks.

By 5-4 Supreme Court decision purging the rolls is 100% legal and all democrats know if it's legal there's nothing wrong with it

Rastor
Jun 2, 2001

Thoguh posted:

The US would be a better place if it had an equivalent for the Prime Minister's question sessions at the state and federal level.

Hell yes,

heck even Jon Stewart used to call for that

Rastor
Jun 2, 2001

Matt Zerella posted:

lmao this is how he got out of his staged arrest

lol they weren't even willing to arrest him in the first place

https://twitter.com/ryangrim/status/1006976542940041216

Rastor
Jun 2, 2001

Nanomashoes posted:

That Ipad has to be on and functioning for the car to do anything, including changing gears and OPENING THE loving DOORS.
If you get in a crash and it breaks you can't get out of the car without the fire department using bolt cutters to sever some unmarked line in the back they don't tell you about and meanwhile you've burned to death.

It isn't quite THAT stupid, though it is stupid

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=te6VqldjTT8&t=631s

Rastor
Jun 2, 2001

Nov 16, 2017

mastershakeman posted:

duckworth is poo poo and it's hilarious how popular she is for no reason beyond checkboxes

Rastor
Jun 2, 2001

SUCK IT, dem establishment, suck it all bad dems

Rastor
Jun 2, 2001

Shageletic posted:

ranked preferences like they have in Maine

there are a few issues with ranked choice that have led to it being pulled back in some areas that tried it;

much better to rate your candidates with STAR voting:

https://www.equal.vote

Rastor
Jun 2, 2001

loquacius posted:

lol

these people have no loving principles whatsoever

nope

democrats believe nothing, stand for nothing, wish for nothing other than what their donors request

Rastor
Jun 2, 2001

90s Rememberer posted:

there's no winning if we don't elect a president who's willing to abuse executive power to go around the courts and congress. bernie is not that person

it'll be obstructionfest 2.0

not if we elect socialists to congress


Concerned Citizen posted:

whiskeyjuvenile was right

(USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)

lol

Rastor
Jun 2, 2001

Zas posted:

I think harris is as savvy as gillibrand, and they're both going to be competing in the same 'lane'

Nah Harris has a lot of ambition but Gillibrand is by far the most talented at reading tea leaves

Rastor
Jun 2, 2001

Barry Convex posted:

not talented enough to endorse AOC or Nixon though

If she'd done that she wouldn't be a centrist now would she

Rastor
Jun 2, 2001

Matt Zerella posted:

they're both bad. I don't give a poo poo about political instincts. this is the succ zone baby

Yes. They are bad dems. This is the bad dem discussion thread

Rastor
Jun 2, 2001

anime was right posted:

how midwestern trump voteers

lmao

lol

https://twitter.com/StudioSpicy/status/1012148082987765760

let's study the data and obsess about what trump voters think and how to win them over

Rastor
Jun 2, 2001

etalian posted:

Wow President Ocasio!

Her victory just shows how down ticket and primary battles might be easier for Berniecrats to win since you only need to convince a few thousand more people to vote.


Yes

https://twitter.com/emptywheel/status/1012102916826640385

You have to be relentless, you have to fight to take over every office at every level

You have to consider not just legislative offices but things like attorney general

You have to fight against bad gerrymandering, and push for alternate voting methods like Ranked Choice, or even better a score voting method like STAR voting

https://twitter.com/TheEqualVote/status/1005654455780630532

Rastor
Jun 2, 2001

Obviously decorum is extremely viral, AOC don't shake hands with anybody when you get to Congress

Rastor
Jun 2, 2001

Calibanibal posted:

The second hillshills pick up AOtC I drop her like a hot pototo

That's dumb because she's a success and of course all the horrible vampires are going to try to attach to her neck

The important thing is to monitor that she sticks to good policy LOOKING AT YOU KEITH AND BERNIE

Rastor
Jun 2, 2001


Goddamn, that is some top shelf succ

Rastor
Jun 2, 2001

Already gone, did you grab a screenshot

Rastor
Jun 2, 2001

Antifa Poltergeist posted:

This is from way back, but if right after this stone cold steve austin music started playing, hillary might have won all the states.

Also, if she starteds throwing double birds around, and giving random stunners to people.

A personality, any personality at all, would have resulted in a win

Rastor
Jun 2, 2001

Bad dems are bad and the unique terribleness of rhode island is a multiplier

Rastor
Jun 2, 2001

large chunks of Economics are still dogmatic bullshit, it's currently about where Physics was when they were generating equations for the luminiferous aether

Rastor
Jun 2, 2001

i say swears online posted:

oh my loving god

Every single time, it's like those Empire Strikes Back reveals

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MHSAD1d-Mdk&t=2s

Rastor
Jun 2, 2001

Acelerion posted:

like at least make a scene before you capitulate, dumb rear end

that's what he did on DACA and I'm pretty sure that made it worse

Rastor
Jun 2, 2001

gradenko_2000 posted:

IronStache has called for abolishing ICE, and Cathy Myers has specifically distanced herself from that position.

I didn't even hear that there was a debate yesterday

https://www.jsonline.com/story/news/politics/2018/07/08/paul-ryan-seat-democrats-cathy-myers-randy-bryce-face-off-debate/766838002/


quote:

Both offered scathing criticism of the Trump administration's decision to separate children and their parents after they crossed the U.S. border with Mexico. Bryce said anyone who's not screaming bloody murder over family separations "doesn't get to claim family values," and repeated his calls to abolish U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE).

Myers described family separations at the border as cruel and unconscionable, and said “ICE is made up of a lot of thugs. It really is.”

Myers accused Bryce of flipping on immigration issues, accusing him of previously supporting law enforcement working with ICE.

Bryce defended his position, saying he had merely said local law enforcement should get all of the tools it needs to pursue criminals, such as gang members.


https://twitter.com/WoobieTuesday/status/1016117909779767296

It's not enough to ask for an overhaul Cathy

Rastor
Jun 2, 2001


This happens so reliably that there should be a smiley for dead failing new york times

Rastor
Jun 2, 2001

Absurd Alhazred posted:

Chucking in the morning!


more like up-chucking am I right folks

Rastor
Jun 2, 2001

Feldegast42 posted:

Nice try but you won't be the chosen one unless you go onto Chapo

Virgil was at her victory party


She wasn't joking by the way, post-escalator world

https://twitter.com/kenklippenstein/status/1016708084687831041

Rastor
Jun 2, 2001

Main Paineframe posted:

the overall problem with nuclear in the US is that the nuclear industry here ground to a halt fifty years ago

so everywhere you go, it's just ancient decaying plants being run by rent-seeking utility companies seeking to extract maximum value from the plants in the time they have left, without worrying too much about maintenance since they're all beyond their original design lifetimes and license periods anyway. regulatory capture defanged the NRC and other oversight agencies decades ago, and no one cared enough to do anything about it because nuclear is an afterthought in this country

the kicker is that coal plants often have significantly worse problems with toxic leaks, contamination, etc. but no one gives a poo poo about heavy metals in the groundwater or massive waste spills unless they also happen to be radioactive

It's this


I'm pro-nuclear but the nuclear plants we have currently in the USA are Fukushima-style pieces of poo poo that were built in the early part of the cold war and are in the tail end of their life cycle

We should be phasing them out gracefully and building new ones using the exact same plans as the ones they're building like crazy in China and India so spare parts and expertise can be shared and we can benefit from economies of scale

But that will never be politically feasible so gently caress it, go hog wild with solar and wind

Rastor
Jun 2, 2001

Feldegast42 posted:

If we are already having serious arguments about packing the court then nothing should be considered politically unfeasible. Writing off things that are good "but will never ever happen" is one of the things that led to Trump in the first place.

The right wingers don't want it because the fossil fuels companies pay better than the nuclear industry
The centrists don't want it because they are coastal NIMBY elitists who consider coming out against it an easy win because it doesn't affect them personally
The leftists don't want it because Fukushima erased the last of any ecological bona fides it had and they're convinced we don't need it to go carbon neutral (they may be right about that)

I'm open to creative angles, I'm just openly admitting I can't think of any

Rastor
Jun 2, 2001

theCalamity posted:

I’m so lost on the whole brunch thing in the Twitter sense and the actual eating sense.

Nominally an excuse to continue last night's party by eating greasy food and drinking additional alcohol, brunch is a cultural signifier / touchstone of elitist centrists






Several of the pussy hat donut centrists showed up at protests with signs like "if you had voted for Hillary we'd be at brunch right now"








Left twitter pointed out how stupid that was


Idiot centrist twitter interpreted this as an attack on the idea of eating brunch and got really defensive and angry about the purity bro left's indecorous attacks, and furthermore claimed that brunch is actually not the domain of out of touch liberals but is in fact a way for poor people to eat cheaply and therefore attacks on brunch are racist


Left twitter pointed out how stupid that was


The cycle continued

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Rastor
Jun 2, 2001

Shear Modulus posted:

it extremely owns that russians and republicans are literally stealing campaign analytics data and elections but neera and the other dems are spending their time yelling at journalists for reporting on lovely things they said that make them look like assholes instead

1000 times more concerned about their personal brands than the country or their party

1000 times more concerned about their personal brands than the country or their party, title of the Democrats' sex tape

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