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It does raise an interesting question -- is this JR's worst move as the Pens GM? The MAF contract was pretty bad, but can be at least partially excused because of the expansion draft maneuvering and 2nd Cup. Otherwise, so far as I can recall, JR's track record with the Pens has been pretty bulletproof. That's a big part of PAS hand waving the Reaves trade away -- even good GMs make bad moves, so the best you can hope for is that they're few and far between, and that they aren't high impact. The Reaves trade checks the latter box (low impact) and we'll have to see what happens with the Pens gaps at C and D to see if JR can keep the former box checked too.
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Pornographic Memory posted:Despres for Lovejoy was bad. It only looks acceptable because of two things that occurred after the fact: 1) the Ducks gave him a contract that the Penguins couldn't have afforded to give him without making significantly different moves than they actually did during the 2015 offseason (if you have Despres there's probably no Kessel deal) and 2) Despres's career is likely over after taking several headshots before he could accomplish anything notable with the Ducks. Yeah I guess he's always had a thing for grit with Lapierre and Downie. Hopefully it's out of his system for now, and Sullivan will just coach around it  I was never very high on Despres so I didn't mind that trade. Lovejoy was no good but neither was Despres IMO
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Jordan7hm posted:Fixed it for you So true. My first thought was "oh poo poo I could totally see JR giving Girardi a lovely deal saying that his veteran leadership will be just what the Pens need to 3peat" but then I realized that probably every single fanbase (except NYR) has good reason to be worried
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Kilza posted:With Yakupov, he has the skills to be at least a top 6 RW, even a 1st line RW. The problem is that he does not have the hockey IQ necessary to think the game as a top 6 RW and use his skills efficiently, which has really limited his ability as a player. But if you pair him with a center (or linemates) that can make use of his skills like McDavid then he's actually fine. Yeah if Yak were to come to the Pens I think maybe we'd see him on the 3L with Bonino (if he gets re-signed). Bonino has pretty good hockey IQ and seems to be decent at setting up meatheads (see: Carl Hagelin), so maybe Yak would be a good fit there? And then depending on how the top 2 lines are playing I could totally see him slotting in with Malkin or Crosby opportunistically. But yeah, sounds like Yak would probably be better off signing a "show me" deal with a team that's got enough offensive depth that they can use Yak effectively without really expecting much in terms of production. Pens and Caps are the first teams that come to my mind, but I'm sure there are others that would make sense. Not so sure about NJD...
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Mike_V posted:The Pens just traded for Ryan Reaves to be their 4th line winger, I doubt they're bringing in Yakupov. I am still dumb enough to have faith in NHL coaches and would not be surprised if Reaves winds up healthy scratched for long stretches in favor of Sullivan's favorite WBS plugs T-Bone posted:That was St. Louis though and it went horribly. I mean they didn't use him well but I think he needs opportunity more than protection. Both would be optimal but not sure if he can get that. Eh I don't really think of STL as having a lot of offensive depth. I think he needs more opportunity than he got in STL for sure, but also more protection than he got in EDM (i.e. a lovely team that couldn't afford to have highly touted prospects fail to produce). I feel like NJD is probably closer to EDM than would be good for Yak, but I'm also kind of talking out of my rear end so
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https://www.theplayerstribune.com/marc-andre-fleury-thank-you-pittsburgh/ MAF
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Oh man I hope some non Pens team signs Hainsey looool
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ThinkTank posted:Yeah, this is the only instance in which anyone connected with the team has used the word and I've heard less forced admissions of infidelity: IMO if the org doesn't realize that "transitioning to a younger team" =! rebuild, then SAS likely has many more years of entertainment at the Canucks' expense to look forward to
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Matt Zerella posted:I mean, the Rangers are pulling it off without going into full on rebuild mode.It'll be really obvious if they don't sign Shattenkirk because they're going to need some young kids to step up on D. oh totally, i think NYR are way better managed than VAN. i don't mean that transitioning to a younger team can't be a more effective strategy than blowing it up for a full rebuild, but you have to have a pretty decent roster already to go down that route. NYR already had a pretty decent roster, VAN most certainly does not
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i'm not sure i can imagine a funnier thing happening than VGK drafting Emelin and then the Habs trading back for him
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Suspicious posted:I thought players drafted by Vegas couldn't be traded back to their original team for a year. Aphrodite posted:That rule was apparently never in place for this draft. players that were traded to VGK before the expansion draft can't be traded back until January 2018, so e.g. MTL couldn't trade Drouin to TBL til midway through next season. but players that VGK selected in the expansion can be traded willy nilly
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i'll probably eat my words, but i'm not so sure bonino is going to get a huge payday. maybe if HBK had been a thing again, but he had a pretty mediocre regular season this year and wasn't as clutch in the playoffs as he seemed last year. he doesn't score a lot and he doesn't hit a lot, so i'm not sure he's the type of player that GMs will go crazy for on the flip side, the irrationality of NHL GMs knows no bounds, so i also won't be at all surprised if he gets a big dumb contract
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Suspicious posted:Yeah man I sure want to get (good player) in exchange for (my team's spare parts) This but not unironically
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Mike_V posted:lol if Shatty signs with the Bolts I will be extremely pissed. i like the emerging narrative of Stevie Y trying to choose between going after Shatty or Girardi. could be a bit of a make or break decision in terms of assessing his competence as a GM
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ThinkTank posted:The entirety of Thornton's retirement plan involves riding that mower around in a big field from sun up to sun sun down smiling to himself. cock in hand
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Ginette Reno posted:He must be pretty confident Cullen is coming back because I've heard nothing about them looking for a 4c. could also just rely on tweener depth for 4C. I wonder who will wind up as the 3C, haven't really given any thought to who we could get via trade (and what we'd have to give up). Hopefully we can find another undervalued guy that has decent IQ and unimpressive production stats. What's Lee Stempniak up to these days?
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Thufir posted:Edit: Colorado signed Yak City. yak
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Spring Break My Heart posted:That still sounds like you're saying that it's the second most superstar driven of the North American ones, which is true. As someone that only seriously follows the NHL and casually the NBA, I'd be curious to hear the compare/contrast vs. the MLB and NFL in terms of superstar-drivenness. I think you can leave the NBA off the table entirely since it's so extreme on the superstar spectrum.
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Crosby had better P/60 and better CF% than McDavid. If Crosby is more productive and drives more possession, how is McDavid better? Bc he's faster and his teammates are worse??? Smdh
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Darude - Adam Sandstorm posted:Crosby had a worse corsi and fenwick at evens unless hockey reference is wrong? O ya I was looking at All Situations not Even The Golden Man posted:I thought it was unstylish to use cf% as an individual statistic. I'm not trying to be snide I have a very limited understanding of analytics and I accept openly and honestly that I could be wrong Ya that's fair. I don't mind using it over the course of a whole season cuz there's a big enough sample, but it's better as a team stat Jamwad Hilder posted:*whiny bitch voice* crosby scores 0.13 more points per 60 minutes Suck on this!
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Wonderllama posted:The Sidney Crosby defense league is by far my favorite part of SAS right now. we know, because it's All You Ever Post About
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Hockey newz https://twitter.com/dril/status/872567737457016838
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Wonderllama posted:Monkey's paw jokes ad nauseam Trading elite players for bag o pucks jokes Debating elite
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7 years is a long time but $5M AAV seems like pretty good value. Unless he totally falls off a cliff that should be a pretty tradeable contract if TBL needs to move him earlier
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LumpyGumby posted:Just a reminder. at first i thought he was going to do a sick spin-o-rama thru the legs dangle, but then... 
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Jagr? I just met her!
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If PIT and Dumo can meet in the middle around $3M that's fine, but yeah I don't think he deserves $4M+
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Schremp Howard posted:https://twitter.com/jmackeypg/status/889492097589538817 bleh. hopefully he keeps getting better over the next few years. best case is he turns into a slightly worse version of paul martin
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Just spent a few mins zoomed in on that image on my phone thinking I was an idiot for not understanding what was so bad about the predictions. There were some that I disagreed with, but on the whole it seemed pretty decent. Then I realized I was looking at the 16-17 columns the whole time
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feels like the NHL should just assign some neutral observers to like press a red button or something if a play is blindingly obviously offsides to the naked eye, a la the infamous danny briere goal, which triggers a review. no coach's challenge. doesn't seem like the concussion spotters have much work on their plates, maybe just add it to their responsibilities lol
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guy who says everyone loves marc bergevin also says marc bergevin's locker room reason for getting rid of PK was valid... hmmmmm
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