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Hip Now and Wow! posted:Not that specifically, but all the other times where penguin take cheap- shots. The idea is that the threat of a caveman immediately pounding you into the ice is a deterrent to stop you from punching Guentzel in the head 30 seconds after the whistle, or implementing a game plan to run the Pens goalie as often as possible. This never ever ever ever works NHL players aren't scared of someone like Reaves exacting retribution for some poo poo, not with the instigator being a thing. The whole deterrence thing is a myth, but players will say "oh but I feel safer" but there is no difference. Plus most of the shitheads that will really run a guy would then be more than happy to get into a fight afterwards. Their whole existence in the NHL is to not be afraid of fighting other guys like them hifi posted:this was sort of my thought. why was everyone in such a rush to trade stepan His contract and cap space and he has a NMC that kicks in July 1st Also speculation they're a little worried his game is starting to decline.
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Jun 26, 2017 16:17
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Should have traded him, Jeff 
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Jun 26, 2017 20:41
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Height requirement for the HHOF, same reason Fleury won't get in
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Jun 26, 2017 22:35
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Brooks reporting the Rangers and Smith are trying to get a deal done. Have to think if they re-sign Smith they're not really in on Shattenkirk. Lotta money to tie up in the defense for a long time with the decision whether to re-sign McDonagh coming due in the next few years. Don't really know what they'd do about top RD though. McD-Smith is far far better than McD-Girardi but still playing Smith over his head. McD-Smith Skjei-D'Angelo Staal-Bereglazov/Pionk Is probably an improvement statistically but looks shaky with some guys possibly playing above their heads (maybe D'Angelo can be a 2nd pairing guy but might be asking a lot to jump him into that role right now) e: and of course it'll actually probably be Staal-Holden which is a terrible pairing but  Also reportedly have reached out to Anders Nilsson
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Jun 27, 2017 05:24
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Vegas reportedly trying to trade Emelin and Sbida
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I think I'd be totally happy with re-signing Smith (DAS collectively takes a horrified gasp) as long as the contract isn't too dumb. He was pretty much a perfect 2nd pairing guy with Skjei last year. Shattenkirk? Maybe if they have some plan to move Staal to free up that space the it wouldn't be too bad to have them all signed there, but otherwise like I said that's a lot of money tied up in defense and Skjei is up for a new contract after this season as well. I would be much more happy with some kind of defensive configuration that had Holden as the 3rd pair left D and one of the guys they signed playing the right side (Bereglazov, Pionk, etc)
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DJExile posted:to my knowledge he's stayed pretty healthy the last 5-6 years, for what that's worth didn't he gently caress up his knee in the past 3 years or so
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a false posted:the problem with that is that we have no idea if either bereglazov or pionk can be a competent nhl defenseman yet. ditto graves if you wanna throw him in there too. I think you gotta sink or swim a little bit at this point if you're the Rangers. They've got a lot of guys who could be competing for spots and I don't think the answer to it is to spend a huge amount of money on free agents instead. Realistically Holden is still on this team and he's still a roster spot right D for now, so we're probably not actually looking to fill 3 RD spots with D'Angelo, Pionk, Bereglazov and maybe UFA's. e: regarding Staal, it's still early in the offseason and people are still looking for players. Staal might end up being a consolation prize for a team that didn't get Alzner, Emelin, Sbisa, etc (oh my god hahaha) I'm not sure the Rangers actually want to trade him though
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Zodijackylite posted:McDonagh-Shattenkirk I mean yes that would be the best configuration of defensemen if we aren't worried about cap space and Staal can be moved. That's a massive makeover from pretty crappy D to really modern NHL D that can move the puck very well El Gallinero Gros posted:Isn't Staal generally considered better than Sbisa and Emelin, even with the injuries affecting his play? Matt Zerella posted:He's really really bad OP. He...well, I dunno, he can flash some pretty good periods of play but he's also pretty drat slow these days and his depth perception has affected his ability to move the puck. His stickwork and gap work is probably still good if he's not having to defend a guy flying at him full speed. If you pair him up with a guy who can move the puck well he'd probably be decent. Pairing him with Holden was bad bad bad bad last year.
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Jordan7hm posted:McGuire was on Ottawa radio today saying that Karl Alzner is a good top 4 guy and Shattenkiro is a 5/6. lol I guess it's the whole "Alzner is steady and reliable but Shattenkirk is too mistake prone to be trusted at even strength" jesus christ
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a false posted:under 4 please come on gonna be between 4 and 5 I think. It's going to be high but "poo poo that's absolutely terrible" high I think Smith was good so I'm not all broken up about it as long as the term is like 4 years
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a false posted:i mean, i guess it's better than the staal/girardi contracts. at least he doesn't appear to be freefalling in terms of his efficacy... yet well and by between 4-5 I hopefully mean closer to 4 than 5
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Teemu Pokemon posted:I remember when Smith came from Wisconsin, that hope, that possibility, that promise, that nice <40 game sample size where he managed not to poo poo his pants and hey look! They finally got that Rafalski replacement! Oh gently caress, it turns out he's actually terrible. Maybe detroit is just bad and it rubbed off on Smith while he was there
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lol at the idea of Tampa having Callahan and Girardi on their roster
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Rotten Cookies posted:Turns out the Red Wings aren't going to be the first freefall in their new arena. so the new arena is already cursed
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what the gently caress is the context to this? I thought Dynamo Moscow was one of the bigger teams in the KHL and wouldn't be one with a lot of money problems
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fits posted:apparently theyre basically insolvent Huh I thought that was basically most KHL teams but they were usually propped up by the super rich Don't know much about that team though and why they're failing
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Jun 28, 2017 17:23
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god I'm so happy that the Rangers bought out Girardi and have been spending their time acquiring mobile defensemen
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Could be argued that Hayes as the #2 center is ehhhhhhhhhh and that they might need someone a bit better at center
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Jun 28, 2017 18:59
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A little high but if he performs the way he did in a 2nd pairing role at the end of the year then that's fine
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Holden on the move isn't a bad idea, his value probably isn't gonna get any higher just going from stats . 11 goals 34 points can probably get someone to bite for a depth player or OK pick
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The Dirty Burger posted:I wonder how much AV is going to hate DeAngelo I think this is a situation where the GM is going to basically be saying "this guy has got to play don't gently caress him around"
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I don't think Gorton will be like dictating icetime and deployment or something but I do think they just gave up a good center and backup for DeAngelo (and the pick) and I don't think they want him sitting in the press box. I think there's going to be a play him unless he is really terrible type of thing going on. AV is weird, he sometimes gives certain guys a lot of trust and other guys not any. He actually gave Skjei a lot of trust and responsibility at times, though unfortunately fell back on vets at crunch time (arguable how much of that was Beuk and how much was AV) Hopefully he gives DeAngelo the same amount of leeway he gave Skjei e: also https://twitter.com/andystrickland/status/880118164599840768 jesus
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Jim Cerny, the old Rangers media guy who still writes about NHL stuff, says he's heard from a source that Bonino is "very interested" in the Rangers
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Pornographic Memory posted:Bonino's going to get paid a lot of money to severely disappoint somebody thinking he's a top six center. He seems like a good 3rd line center but yeah the money he's going to want for that is likely to be higher than it's worth. Rangers are basically checking out all the available centers anyways it sounds like (Thornton, Marleau, Bonino). Not sure if they sign any of them depending on what the asking price is
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Hey Avs nick Holden is a top 4 defenseman! You even know it, you played him as one when he was with your team!
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keeps being rumored that Vladimir Tkachev is at least going to attend Rangers training camp...he bought out his KHL contract and was supposed to be at the prospect camp they're having now but had visa issues. Could be interesting, very skilled and still young, put up good numbers in the KHL last season. Pretty slight though. Also a winger, don't know how that would pan out when teh Rangers need centers unless there are more moves to be made this summer
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Look Around You posted:Is it? I thought only LTIR was cumulative? nah cap space is cumulative that's why they're always saying that some team has like $10 mill in cap space at the trade deadline
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Benny-Poo is pretty dang good I don't know why the Oilers poo poo themselves over him, I guess they just see him as the most expendable forward when they're trying to get cap space e: so...why didn't Columbus buy out Hartnell earlier and use that spot to protect someone they didn't want to lose rather than pull off a lovely deal to protect some players? I'm not sure what their eligibility list looked like though Levitate fucked around with this message at 19:57 on Jun 29, 2017 |
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I mean you just have to accept that occasionally Benny-Poo will pull some absolutely ridiculous poo poo and you'll be like what the gently caress man why can't you do that more often but he just can't, he just can't Also more claims that Kevin Klein is definitely retiring
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The Golden Man posted:he was doing that insane offensive zone penalty poo poo when he was having a good season then he kept right on doing it while having a poo poo season whoops lol yeah I remember he was bad about that sportsgenius86 posted:The trade protected who they wanted to protect and offloaded Clarkson's contract and they were hopeful maybe someone would be dumb enough to trade for Hartnell's contract after everything shook out. Fair enough, forgot about offloading Clarkson's contract as well. Hartnell seems like a good budget get for a team that needs a bit of depth scoring e: Freidman saying that Buffalo is going to go all in on Shattenkirk
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Jun 29, 2017 20:04
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I think there's some thought that Buffalo is "close enough" to NY and Shattenkirk's hometown
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Tampa no! Not all Rangers castoffs are good!
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ThinkTank posted:The speculation is that the Panthers want Gudbranson back and I cannot begin to tell you how much I want that to be true. Please do it Jim. I will forgive you many past transgressions.  What a terrible organization
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Kilza posted:https://twitter.com/DarrenDreger/status/880606690072244225 Avoids? Making it sound like a bad thing. Should be forgo or something
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and convince shattenkirk to take a big discount to sign here as wlel
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JoelJoel posted:Doesn't av give all 3 top lines identical minutes anyway? He deploys them differently at times and lines will get more icetime than others when they're playing better but yeah he doesn't lean heavily on a top line (partly because the Rangers don't have superstars to lean on)
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a false posted:that too, but if we get rid of staal we don't need him to take a discount at all yeah but if Sather offs another guy I think the police will start getting suspicious
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DO YALL WANT A BOXC posted:wow cammalleri, jokinen, and hayes can all definitely help a team still. would not be surprised to see jokinen back on the pens Hayes was super bad last year. Buyer beware over whether it was a down year or start of a consistent trend I'd guess Cammalleri was bought out because he's broken since it's not really like the Devils need the cap space?
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