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a false posted:is nashville letting mike fisher walk. also is cbj letting sam gagner walk. i'd take either of them on a short deal I would also like a lot of good players for under market value, but I really hope the Rangers go wild in trying to acquire good players under age 27. Considering the going rate for guys like Hall, Eberle, and Hamonic, I'm hoping they work some magic with someone like Galchenyuk or Mackinnon or Landeskog. Please no more old guys. Shattenkirk is cool because he'll turn 35 at the very end of a seven year deal, which is also two years after the CBA expires. They've got the cap room to sign him in the 7m range.
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In what world is MSL not a first ballot hall of famer? He was really good for a long time, won the Hart and Pearson and Art Ross in his best year, continued to be great for a decade, won another Art Ross, and was on five year-end All-Star teams. He also won a cup at the beginning of that run and Olympic gold at the end. He was one of the best players in the game for a long time and has all the accolades to show for it.
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Jun 26, 2017 22:26
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McDonagh-Shattenkirk Skjei-Smith Holden-Deangelo and then all the guys with no NHL experience. It's not that hard, assuming that 20m in cap space is awaiting Shattenkirk.
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Jun 27, 2017 17:59
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Oh, right, I forgot Marc Staal exists. Maybe we can send him to Minnesota to be with his brother, and hope it works out better than it did with Boogaard.
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Jun 27, 2017 18:07
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Iodised QQ posted:The rumored offer that was out there from the isles was Hamonic, their 2018 1st, and a prospect who isn't Matt barzal/Ryan pulock/josh ho sang. So probably a guy like Michael dal colle or Kiefer bellows. Apparently that wasn't good enough for duchene either. I think the problem for Colorado is that Hamonic isn't enough to drag their team to success, and non-top-ten picks would likely leave them in the same spot for a few years while they already have some close-to-prime-age talents in Mackinnon, Landeskog, and Barrie. Those three guys you named are the type of NHL-ready-next-year kind of blue chip prospects who they both need, and Duchene is worth. The type of guys who can make an impact next year, or if they can't pull out of it, will be in their prime in 3-4 years after they sell off their older players for picks.
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Jun 28, 2017 03:57
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Matt Zerella posted:https://twitter.com/AnsarKhanMLive/status/880093966313639936 Yeah, this would be good for 3-4 years. He's good right now, and should be a solid player worth that much for the whole contract. That's not too long and they should have some young D coming up on ELCs during that time.
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Jun 28, 2017 17:24
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Rangers have enough capspace to sign: Shattenkirk @ $7m Smith @ 4m Fast @ 3m Zbad @ 5m They would have 1.5m in cap space left, or 4.4m if Klein retired, and their only needs would be a backup goalie, a 3/4C, and an upgrade on Puempel if he's going to be the 13th forward again. There's a chance that three of those big contracts could come a bit cheaper, too.
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Jun 28, 2017 18:55
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I'm hoping they manage to fleece someone on a young center (Bergevin, I'm looking at you) because looking for a top two center in free agency leads to boat anchor contracts. Burmistrov and Grigorenko are both young UFAs, so either one of them would be cool to slot in below Hayes.
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Jun 28, 2017 19:04
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This is a good signing. Skjei-Smith was a great pairing, or maybe Smith can play with McDonagh and a Skjei-DeAngelo pairing can take soft starts and score all the points.
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Jun 28, 2017 19:24
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Levitate posted:Holden on the move isn't a bad idea, his value probably isn't gonna get any higher just going from stats . 11 goals 34 points can probably get someone to bite for a depth player or OK pick I'm gonna laugh my rear end off when he fetches a top six center and is heralded as a top four defenseman. He's good, but seems expendable given the cap situation and how the D is shaping up. For maximum hilarity, Holden to the Avs and Emelin back to the Habs.
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Jun 28, 2017 19:44
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I wonder how much of the problem with last year's defensive coaching was related to Beuk being a rookie NHL coach whose pro coaching experience was under another guy (Gernander) who was there due to nepotism. Same probably goes for Ulfie, though he had more experience coaching. Guys who got their jobs by being liked by the organization for a long time probably aren't going to make tough decisions to sit a guy like Girardi, even if it needs to be done. Lindy Ruff has a bit more clout, having coached the fourth-most games in NHL history. He's also got a muuuuch better defense to work with, though.
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Jun 28, 2017 20:00
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Levitate posted:I don't think Gorton will be like dictating icetime and deployment or something but I do think they just gave up a good center and backup for DeAngelo (and the pick) and I don't think they want him sitting in the press box. I think there's going to be a play him unless he is really terrible type of thing going on. AV is probably the best coach for a young offensive specialist. He's going to get the softest minutes possible, probably not a ton at first, but minutes where he can score. He's also basically their only RH shot other than Zbad, so I don't know if AV is going to split them up on the PP, or put them both on the top unit.
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Jun 28, 2017 20:56
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This is the year Yak gets to shake the "he played for the Oilers" negative vibe.
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Jul 4, 2017 23:52
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hifi posted:what happened with lindberg? he was great when he put up, uh, 28 points, and now bad when he puts up 20? i guess in his first season he had like five goals in 3 games and then coasted off that? It took him some time to get back to 100% this season after having surgery on both hips. In his first year, he was a bit more sheltered and given some softer minutes, and he played a lot with some offensively-inclined forwards, like Hayes/Stalberg/Miller. He averaged over 12m TOI that year, but under 11m his second. His role on the team was almost entirely limited to being on the fourth line, and AV trusted him a lot more defensively, often deploying him with Fast - who he had some great chemistry with. He was also the last priority for creating line chemistry, in large part due to Grabner being a beast on the third line, most often with Hayes and Miller. He's a good and responsible two-way center who could probably find his way into any role in Vegas. Given more ice time, he could put up 30-35p in 15m/g at even strength, and given power play time, he's OK, but won't be putting up huge numbers as the one thing he lacks is top end offensive talent. Good player, good opportunity, but likely to put up point totals in the 30s, or in the 40s if he's on the power play full time. He'll put up a decent total unless he continues playing 11m/night or misses a lot due to injury... or maybe if his Vegas linemates are really bad. Zodijackylite fucked around with this message at 05:50 on Jul 5, 2017 |
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Jul 5, 2017 05:43
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That's a good deal for a good player.
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Jul 5, 2017 19:18
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ONE HUNDRED MILLION DOLLARS
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Jul 5, 2017 21:32
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I have no ill will towards Connor McDavid, therefore I hope he does not get a sore throat from shouting "one hundred million dollars" over and over again. ...because that's what I do if I signed a contract for one hundred million dollars.
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Jul 5, 2017 22:58
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McDavid would've kept $8.4m more dollars after tax if he signed in Nashville/Florida/Dallas, or $5.3m less if he signed in Montreal. Dollars taken home isn't the only thing players care about except Radulov
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Jul 6, 2017 03:03
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Darude - Adam Sandstorm posted:That's not how taxes work in pro sports. That's not what a calculator I found with Google said, while trying to throw out some numbers against dumb arguments to fend off my offseason longing for hockey.
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Jul 6, 2017 03:44
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The story of the article is that Avery outlined the entire thing verbally, then a ghost-writer put it together along with his attitude, which made it ridiculous and inaccurate. Avery liked the publicity anyway, because he's Sean Avery.
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Jul 6, 2017 18:24
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a false posted:i'm not sure how i'd never noticed that happening before, weird The announcers and your eyes are normally focused on the 2-on-1 and they'll only occasionally mention it while reviewing a replay, usually if it gives an extra inch to get the stick in there. It's a good play, because even if you can't physically block the pass, a little bit of something there might lead to a worse pass, or a shot instead. Better than nothing.
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Jul 6, 2017 19:39
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Levitate posted:Kevin Klein officially retired from the NHL Farewell. He was great for the Rangers, I wish him well in Europe. He was a really tough defender for the Rangers, but he also showed some great skating and hands, I hope he finds a league where the game is a bit less grinding and he gets to show off those skills some more.
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Jul 7, 2017 17:55
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Some team presidents, such as Shanahan, serve as somewhat of a figurehead where they don't have the experience to be a GM, but they have the connections and clout to assemble a staff of hockey guys who do. Pat LaFontaine was brought in to do that type of thing in Buffalo for a short time - a famous/well-liked player who had also worked for the league, helping to tie things together. The people person of hockey ops. I think this is where some of the old-tyme hockey guys like Burke and Sather fit well. They're good ol' boys who probably know every coaching candidate, scout, agent, etc. - and that is very important to an organization when trying to attact off-ice personnel - but it isn't a fit for NHL GMs in 2017.
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Jul 10, 2017 18:59
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I first noticed that Slavin was really good when him and Pesce played a shift over five minutes long against the Rangers and didn't give up a goal.
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Jul 12, 2017 21:24
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The 'Canes would be a good team if somebody told their GM that you can't put question marks for your third and fourth lines on the roster card and let whoever shows up skate a dozen shifts per night.
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Jul 12, 2017 21:43
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Citizen Tayne posted:The Canes 'fly under the radar' because they are incredibly loving cheap and never spend to the cap, a fact that Jim Rutherford trashes them for. They tied his hands when he managed there. $5.4m for a nobody defenseman seems like a stupid "quit calling me cheap" impulse measure. I don't think it's about not spending to the cap, it's more about a team that simply didn't have the talent and needed to build through the draft to get the necessary talent to fill their lineup (which they're looking to do right about now). That, and a decade-long goaltending disaster.
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Jul 13, 2017 03:46
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Matt Zerella posted:Rangers signed Andersson to a 3 year ELC. Rumor is he's going to compete for a spot out of camp. Looks like they were impressed by him in rookie camp. I guess he competes against a couple guys who have been in the AHL for a few years (Tambellini/Nieves) and maybe a veteran on a tryout, though pickings look slim there.
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Matt Zerella posted:Fine with me, if he makes it they can do the 9 games thing? Or is he old enough for the AHL? Jensen hosed off to Russia and Hartford could probably use the help after losing Hrivik. It seems a lot of the reputation for this year's draft came from the weakness of the Canadian junior crop this year, while there were a number of guys from Europe who were already playing in men's leagues and are more likely to be solid all-around but without elite scoring talent. It felt like a lot of teams just didn't want to draft players from Canadian juniors, the second Canadian drafted played in a second-tier junior league, and all the Canadian commentators were talking up guys saying "look at how high he was ranked" and "this guy could be a really good NHL player ***if***" and the reasons were: -if he could skate, but he already looked slow in juniors -if he could score 5v5, which he couldn't in juniors -if he could do a pullup or bench press -if he weighed more than 140 pounds
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Jul 13, 2017 21:20
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A two-year view of Lazar misses the problem last year: he was on the worst line in the NHL with Chris Neil and Chris Kelly. The worst line in hockey. Sens also played Matt Puempel with those two, then let him go for nothing. He's not a great player, but both of these guys are a thousand times better than Chris Neil, age 405.
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Jul 15, 2017 19:50
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NY sports media are mostly a bunch of bozos when it comes to hockey, especially since Gorton took over and runs a tight front office. Brooks is an old grump, Cyrgalis is a snarky hack, and somehow Zipay and Staple never managed to get any connections to the Rangers despite Newsday being owned by them for years. All of them have been pretty sloppy in their reporting recently, though, but no hit pieces or wild trade speculation.
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Are you sure this isn't a metaphor for the Stars defense last year?
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Jul 16, 2017 19:35
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That's a good and reasonable contract. Takes him to UFA, at age 27, too.
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Jul 17, 2017 17:50
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It's slightly backloaded, too. 2.6m the first year, 3.3m the second, 3.4m the third. How much do you want to bet he gets traded next year?
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ThinkTank posted:Not really no, bad is bad regardless of the position the team is in. The whole "horrible contracts don't matter when you have lots of cap space!" thing is so short sighted. They can afford him now, but in a season or two that can quickly transition to an expensive mistake. It's not like cap space has to be spent or it goes sour. The Leafs are hardly at a point when they can assume that the playoffs are a given. They may well be in a position where they're sellers at the deadline again, and that extra $6M could be spent on taking on a bad contract as they've done several times before. Conversely they could be a 110 point team and that extra cap space could easily be spent on a bit of depth that would contribute far more than Marleau will. I can assure you that next year when they have to watch JVR walk as a UFA to keep Marleau's purifying corpse on the roster it'll sting a fair bit. Well said. In 2019-20 they have $10m in cap hit tied up in 40-year-old Patrick Marleau, Matt Martin, and Phil Kessel. Even without factoring in the cap space, those are probably two roster spots who they're going to want to fill with better/younger players since that's around when they might start competing for real.
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bub spank posted:Brassard was unlucky last year but his underlying numbers were great, and he should bounce back next year. While Brassard was a bit unlucky, his boom in offense the previous two years also came from different deployment. His Corsi/Fenwick look great because he was shooting a lot - his 166 ES shots are by far a career high - but underlying that, he's both in a lesser role and declining a bit. His ES point totals were fairly consistent with his career totals, excepting two anomalies in the last two years. In 14-15, he led the Rangers in PPTOI, and was second the year after. Him and Zucc were the #1 guys on their power play. In Ottawa last year, he was sixth in PPTOI - only 10-15 minutes less than during those previous two years, but he was much less productive and the power play worked around the other guys, not him. His high assist total in 14-15 stems from Nash's 42-goal season, 32 of which were at ES, more than half with Brassard on the ice. His high goal total in 15-16 was partly due to the power play, although also some career best shooting in general.
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Glambags posted:I am a fan of the rangers grabbing up European prospects and American ncaa players instead of Good Canadian Boys (tm) Same. I'm also a fan of the Rangers stocking up on goaltending prospects because we're gonna need them in four years.
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STL have 22 other skaters signed and 7.7m in cap space. Isn't this guy good enough that they should probably be looking to sign him for 5-6 years at less money rather than dicking him around for dimes now?
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Jul 18, 2017 22:44
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Wamsutta posted:As a man who has been about that bald since age 22, loving co-signed. Looks like he's been balding since 22 and took it as a sign of good luck. P.S. Did anyone notice that he took #22 from Nick Holden?
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ElwoodCuse posted:The Olympics don't mean anything in the big picture. The real issue is what the league's next TV deal is going to look like, because if the TV people plead poverty the owners are going to hit the players really hard. Of course they're going to, but I believe the NBC deal ends in 2021, the CBA in 2022, and the Rogers deal in 2026. Assuming they don't exercise the opt-out clause on the CBA two years earlier, if anything, the NBC contract is going to work to prevent a lockout.
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I'm just glad it's not getting thrown on the ice.
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