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spacetoaster
Feb 10, 2014

I heard there were going to be strikes today, but haven't seen anything about it in the news.

Did anything happen today?

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spacetoaster
Feb 10, 2014

anime was right posted:

yes, guess what! they were not covered.

That was what I was afraid of.

spacetoaster
Feb 10, 2014

actionjackson posted:

I have to ask since it's been on my mind in regards to housing: is it just me or do most people have houses that are way too big? I see them everywhere, I live in a small (925 sq. ft) condo in a very nice neighborhood that has a ton of colonials and poo poo that all have 4k+ square feet and at least four bedrooms. What the gently caress is the point of these homes? Is it anything more than just conspicuous consumption?

e.g. https://www.coldwellbankerhomes.com/mn/saint-paul/56-mississippi-river-blvd-n/pid_35004718/

Yes.

Several of our friends live in brand new homes (don't get started on cars) that are much larger than the one my family lives in. And I know what their jobs are, and how much they make.

Everyone is just addicted to credit and paying their entire paycheck every month to the bank.

spacetoaster
Feb 10, 2014

DAD LOST MY IPOD posted:

the democrats completely suck rear end in every respect, but they are objectively less likely to do things that Wall Street wants than trump is.

Yes. I remember the strong stand for the American workers that the democrats took when they held up the 4.5 trillion dollar stimulus gift to corporations.

spacetoaster
Feb 10, 2014

DAD LOST MY IPOD posted:

the democrats are materially indistinguishable from republicans on financial issues.

Very true

DAD LOST MY IPOD posted:

the democrats suck complete rear end.

Yeah.

spacetoaster
Feb 10, 2014

DAD LOST MY IPOD posted:

you think adding $600/month to unemployment benefits was on trumps agenda?

Probably. Were there any dissenters?

spacetoaster
Feb 10, 2014

Raskolnikov38 posted:

what happened to cadet communism will win

He was let go. He does a podcast now.

spacetoaster
Feb 10, 2014

Sarsapariller posted:

At the risk of sounding like a complete doomer-

I've been scouring the internet lately to find any kind of article that does a good job of anticipating what the post-economic-collapse experience is going to be like for the average citizen. I finally found one, in a talk by Dmitry Orlov in 2009, comparing the failure of the USSR to the (then) Great Recession in the US. Many of his predictions were, of course, premature for that particular recession, and he kind of jokes about exactly that in his talk, but man they mirror what I'm seeing/feeling on the ground in the US in 2020. It starts off a little self-congratulatory at first but bear with it, there's some real meat towards the second half.

Transcript of the talk


etc, etc

I don't want to quote the entire article but man there's a lot of interesting stuff in there

My wife was 12, and living in Russia, when the collapse happened. Her stories, backed up by mom and dad telling stories too, were horrific.

spacetoaster
Feb 10, 2014

gradenko_2000 posted:

lol what's Poland gonna do, invade?



I just sold all my stonks.

I think I'll re-invest the money in a farm. They'll be going for cheap soon.

spacetoaster
Feb 10, 2014

poopinmymouth posted:

Has there been a discussion here about meat supplies? My husband was telling me there are shortages (we aren't stateside) so I asked multiple American friends and they confirmed there was limited or even no availability, but acted like it was no Biggie.

Is it? (A Biggie)

I hunt/farm and don't usually buy meat at a store, but I have seen some strange stuff in the grocery that could point to problems with the supply chain.

Saw a lot of whole chickens for sale for a couple of dollars. I'm not talking about one bin of frozen ones. I'm talking about all the bins + shelves full of whole birds wrapped in cellophane. This could be because the chicken plants are killing off all the chickens and are just trying to get some $$ for the meat. Also, gutting/cleaning a chicken and packaging it takes a whole lot less labor than cutting it up into it's constituent parts for individual packaging. This could be because there aren't enough workers.

Also much larger amounts of ground beef for cheap. Like chickens, it could just be a way for them to try and get some money with a much smaller work force.

My wife, who grew up after the fall of the Soviet Union, says that her family only got meat very rarely. And when they did it was always ground meat. So yeah, there could be supply issues.

And someone, maybe in this thread (or the GBS corona one), said that their local McDonalds was actually out of beef patties.

spacetoaster
Feb 10, 2014

Radirot posted:

hire me i'll help bale hay.

I absolutely would hire you. I don't need hay baled, I need just regular help with manual labor stuff.

I need to have more kids. :colbert:

spacetoaster
Feb 10, 2014

Lambert posted:

Horse is pretty good, it's just not commonly eaten in the US for cultural reasons.

Also for health reasons. Since horses in the US aren't raised for meat, you get old race/work horses that have been injected with every chemical known to man for their entire lives.

spacetoaster
Feb 10, 2014

mila kunis posted:

is it just me or does it feel like there's a news blackout on whatever the hell's going on out there

millions unemployed in just one reporting period but very little personal stories about them. bar staff and other people who work on tips completely hosed but nothing about how they're coping. medical staff overloaded but we here nothin from them. meanwhile DOZENS of small business republican freaks crying about not going to their hairdresser is dominating news. wtf?

It does feel that way.

I would think our local news station would be reporting on stuff important in our community, but nope. They just report the exact same stories that are on the front pages of the national news coverage.

You'd think that with a 24 hour news coverage cycle that there'd be more opportunity to talk about stuff.

spacetoaster
Feb 10, 2014

High capacity mags are dumb tacticool stuff.

Guns are designed with a standard capacity for their magazine in mind. When you expand it you get stuff hanging waay out of the gun, longer springs, lovely design, etc.

My experience is that they cause a bunch of failures and jams. Just change magazines, it only takes a second, drat.


Truga posted:

it's gonna get a lot higher too as more people are forced to find jobs because they can't live off of oddjobs anymore since suddenly nobody has any cash to spare.

And there's no jobs to find.

spacetoaster
Feb 10, 2014

Chomp8645 posted:

But in Call of Duty I...

Call of Duty has been a boon for our military, as well as a problem. I'd say it's a wash, but holy poo poo is it nice to train a bunch of teens that already know exactly what a sight picture is and how it should look.

GATES FOUNDATION posted:

Some people won't even fill a 30 round mag all the way because of the spring

I never have.


My growing concern over China, and our relationship with them, led me to sell off all of my stock that had manufacturing there. I'm happy to say that my number went up.

spacetoaster fucked around with this message at 16:22 on May 7, 2020

spacetoaster
Feb 10, 2014

rump buttman posted:

30 round revolver or bust

never don’t make number bigger

Pretty sure that was an actual thing in the 17th century.

spacetoaster
Feb 10, 2014

So talking about stocks. I'm thinking the pawn shops, and cash advance places, are going to have their numbers going up.

spacetoaster
Feb 10, 2014

I recommend everyone invest in ISA Browns.

I've got several and the returns are excellent.

spacetoaster
Feb 10, 2014

FAUXTON posted:

you arm yourself and I'll watch

After the revolution you will regret this post. :mad:

spacetoaster
Feb 10, 2014

comedyblissoption posted:

dont pawn shops need people to buy, a problematic proposition since people wont have money and people wont want to risk their health

That makes sense.

I guess the EZ money places only do well if people pay them back with interest too.

spacetoaster
Feb 10, 2014

Zberan Madowinty posted:

to me, this really makes for an interesting year of sports. Just do an "experimental" year where you adjust the rules to put more games in. You won't have crowds anyway, you're catering completely to a television audience, so do a 16 game nfl season, but do two games a week, and each game is just two 15 minute halves. Higher stakes in every play! For baseball, since you might play a lot of games at one stadium and you don't have to worry about travel, try doing round robin tournaments with doubleheaders like a college baseball world series thing.

Sports should take one year to just gently caress with all the rules and see if there's something fun to be had in there.

I'm seriously hoping Dana White gets an island to do a televised fight tournament.

There's a lot of pay per view money to made on people fighting in cages (or other places, get creative!).

spacetoaster
Feb 10, 2014

Shipon posted:


the right has all the guns, all of the institutional power. when things collapse your tiny little socialist gun clubs aren't going to stand a chance against police which have had hand-me-down military insurgency transfers for the past two decades, and are the only branch of government where payrolls and benefits keep being more and more generous. your mutual aid antifa cosplay groups aren't poo poo compared to church groups and other right wing networks which have existed this entire time while the new left has been turned into the leftist equivalent of linkedin.


I don't imagine a lot of you spend a lot of time around "gun culture", but I shoot competitively (and hunt) and it's kinda shocking the number of church gun clubs out there.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hAbmimbaFHE

spacetoaster
Feb 10, 2014

Torpor posted:

the Soviets fought a hideously bitter civil war with a gigantic army. yet the left in the US isn’t organizing in the military’s ranks. in fact it is the antithesis of the US Left. protesting and voting doesn’t do poo poo so I would say the structures of power are pretty secure.

All the actual leftists I know are military vets.

spacetoaster
Feb 10, 2014

Marx Headroom posted:

just like those gun range people rose up against obama right? lol you've bought into their tough talk completely

Why would they have risen up against obama? Yeah sure racism, but the dude murdered more brown people overseas, started more wars, and deported more from the US than anybody else. Obama even laughingly called himself a republican.

spacetoaster
Feb 10, 2014

Chomp8645 posted:

At the start of the Civil War it was a known fact that southerners by and large had some basic experience with firearms, while comparatively few northerners had ever even shot one. Same thing with horses, which were an important military asset at the time. The average northerner had no experience riding or caring for horses, while they were a part of daily life for many in the south.



Turns out there were much more important factors in the conflict.

Logistics is a cold hearted bitch.

However the south pretty much owns the US military now. It's overwhelmingly southern and rural.

Hell, the state of Texas has the largest Army out of all the other states.

spacetoaster
Feb 10, 2014


Prince Albert tobacco.

spacetoaster
Feb 10, 2014

WhiskeyWhiskers posted:

lol. gently caress off. All troops deserve the wall.

How to fight a troop, without becoming a troop?

Makes you think.

spacetoaster
Feb 10, 2014

WhiskeyWhiskers posted:

I would still call for the entire lot to be strung up. gently caress those murderous baby killers.

Where did you serve, brother?

spacetoaster
Feb 10, 2014

WhiskeyWhiskers posted:

This disgusting poo poo is exactly why no one should let troops organise. Any criticism is deflected with accusations that someone couldn't possibly know how sad these fucks are at having killed innocents for profit without them having also murdered for empire. Guerillas don't need troops to teach them how to call in a drone strike on an ipad or how to plant guns on dead kids.

You make a lot of sense. What should former troops, who have become leftists, do for the cause?

spacetoaster
Feb 10, 2014

Meat chat:

Went to the grocery this evening and the shelves are bare except for a couple of packages of stew meat (beef) that is 3 times more expensive than it used to be.

My wife has been freaking out for days now because every little thing that happens reminds her of the collapse of the soviet union (which she went through).

spacetoaster
Feb 10, 2014

Squizzle posted:

not to downplay yr wifes ptsd but if it helps you can tell her that the cities where shortages hit earlier, they are already.......not totally back to normal, but mostly normal?? like meat is still expensive here but the shelves are overflowing w canned goods again, after a rough patch in which I l couldnt fuckin find chickpeas or kidney beans

Yeah.

She was pretty young at the time, but she distinctly remembers the day her parents went to the bank and it was just closed. No warning, no nothing. The higher ups were claiming everything was fine, and then one day just disappeared and everything anyone had in the bank was gone.

She's got a ton of :stonk: stories, but I can't imagine that stuff happening in America, no matter how bad it gets.

spacetoaster
Feb 10, 2014

Squizzle posted:

my “no, i can never run out of this,this is vital and neither i not my neighbors can make it” thing is salt, so i buy a couple of things of iodised salt whether i need them or not on most grocery trips, unless i have a frankly ridiculous amount of salt at home

if civ collapses and you need salt, call atthe squizzle residence

Didn't ancient traders used to value it by weight, in gold? Good move.

spacetoaster
Feb 10, 2014

cumshitter posted:

fidelity is trying to sell people on their advisor program for actively managing people's funds but theyre right. when people panic sell they lose, and this is well documented in behavioral economics studies

by staying invested i assume they are dressing up reallocation discipline. IE, if your stocks go down and your bonds go up, as they tend to when people panic sell and flee to bonds, you sell bonds to buy stocks to maintain whatever % ratio you had before.

I panic sold a few things today. I made money (about 9% averaged). But I'm pretty sure the number will go down soon (cruise line and clothing store stocks).

I was betting on this pandemic blowing over soon and people going shopping/vacationing. But I do not believe that will be happening now.

spacetoaster
Feb 10, 2014

cumshitter posted:

also dont feed the loving gator you loving idiot, you dont want to train an alligator not to be afraid of humans

I pity the next guy that doesn't have a hot dog to throw at it.

spacetoaster
Feb 10, 2014

anime was right posted:

there isnt a ton of crime in my neighborhood but just had an attempted murder and someone breaking into every car in my buildings parking lot in a 2 day stretch!

Katybar numbers are going up!

Seriously though, get yourself one if you're wanting to be more secure.

http://www.katybar.com/home-security.html

I've had these things on my doors for years. When it's locked you are not getting through the door without taking out the entire wall first.

spacetoaster
Feb 10, 2014

CRUSTY MINGE posted:

I don't know how much I'd trust something that clamps to a door frame trim held on by finishing nails.

It's bolted to the actual framing of the wall/door.

The door trim is cut out around the brackets for mine.

spacetoaster
Feb 10, 2014

Real hurthling! posted:

its gonna be so sick when my stocks are triple their 2019 value and everyone on earth is too dead to process my orders to cash out

Or It's barely enough money to buy a loaf of bread.

spacetoaster
Feb 10, 2014

Gringostar posted:

it can’t be canceled/delayed because it includes a bunch of security upgrades for elected members

What kind of security upgrades? Are they worried about something?

spacetoaster
Feb 10, 2014

Is there any tracking of homelessness in the US by month? I can only find reports by year.

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spacetoaster
Feb 10, 2014

bagual posted:

people from the third world with actual political experience calling you out on your defeatist liberal bullshit

I agree with the defeatist liberal bullshit, but I do not believe that Brazil is a third world country.

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