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CeeJee
Dec 4, 2001
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brocked posted:

It's alright. McTeer's character is fun, Paz Vega looks nice, but it also has D.L. Hughley as a serious negative for me. I'd put it about on a level with Shoot Em Up, but it doesn't feature a lactating Monica Bellucci.

The whole thing felt like some Serbo-Montenegran tax fraud scheme but McTeer is fantastic.

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CeeJee
Dec 4, 2001
Oven Wrangler

thatfuturekid posted:

Mission Impossible Fallout trailer!!!!!

https://youtu.be/wb49-oV0F78

So yeah, this looks like it may the best one yet. That bathroom fight scene looks dope as hell

Who is the guy fighting both Superman and Cruise and holding his own ? On IMDB I see no one who it could be.

CeeJee
Dec 4, 2001
Oven Wrangler

Wandle Cax posted:

Anyone watched Wolf Warrior 2? the most successful Chinese film ever made. It's basically 2 hours of Wu Jing action and Chinese patriotism. Not a huge focus on martial arts, with lots of shooting and explosions etc. It's pretty watchable if you're looking for an action fest, only with some pretty bad CG at times. A bit different from a western blockbuster film in that very, very little time is spent on plot, dialogue, character, things like that. Also notable for the sheer number of innocent people getting slaughtered on screen which you don't see too much of in a Marvel film for example.

It was pretty entertaining with great action set pieces. Heidi Moneymaker is a goddamn beast and did not get nearly the exit she deserved instead of just randomly dying from one out the million explosions in the movie.

One thing that intrigued me about how the Chinese view this was the Navy captain launching the strike before official approval was given. It's presented like the approval was coming anyway and he did not technically was insubordinate and just acted like a true Chinese patriot when looking at live footage of Chinese being gunned down but still it was a thing you'd expect from an American 'drat the rules' hothead.

CeeJee
Dec 4, 2001
Oven Wrangler
There is already a Wolf Warriors clone movie out, Dante Lam's Operation Red Sea.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7sOD1Qc0O4M

CeeJee
Dec 4, 2001
Oven Wrangler

Davros1 posted:

What do people think of the trailers for Hotel Artemis?

I'm just hoping for some proper Sofia Boutella beatdowns after Atomic Blonde failed to deliver on that part.

CeeJee
Dec 4, 2001
Oven Wrangler
For everyone who thought Wolf Warriors 2 should have been longer, more violent, more patriotic and have way more gore Operation Red Sea was made just for you. It's way too long and still feels like crucial scenes were cut but there is some great action and gorgeous Moroccan scenery that gets blown to bits. I had no idea who any of the cast or characters were except for Luxia Jiang who uses a SAW as effectively as her kicks in Bad Blood to mow down hordes of mooks: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jFR9mPs99oo

CeeJee
Dec 4, 2001
Oven Wrangler

Wandle Cax posted:

Just saw Skyscraper, not exactly a Die Hard clone as it doesn't follow the formula exactly. It's a harmless mildly amusing 90s action/disaster throwback. Has its moments and is entertaining as the standard Rock movie. About on par with Rampage but a bit less crazy without the sci fi aspects. Neve Campbell is still super attractive.

It reminded me a bit of the South Korean movie The Tower with its futuristic skyscraper full of sections built to provide spectacular set pieces. But while that movie was mostly focused on heroic firemen the HK Fire Department in Skyscraper seemed to be fine with the highest building in the world burning down with no efforts made at all to put the fire out. Suprisingly, the Rock does not fire any guns in this movie even though he kills tons of baddies which seems to be a deliberate move away from Die Hard.

CeeJee
Dec 4, 2001
Oven Wrangler
Sounds like the Ghost Recon: Wildlands predator mission where the Predator just tanks a million bullets until bullet 1000001 kills it.

CeeJee
Dec 4, 2001
Oven Wrangler

Taintrunner posted:

Not sure if this counts but my god is Fire Birds with Tommy Lee Jones and Nic Cage one hell of a cheesy helicopter porn knockoff of Top Gun. It’s a perfect double feature with The Substitute as far as ridiculous Drug War action movies go.

My definitive Drug War movie is McBain, not the Simpsons one or the one with Gary Busey but the 1991 James Glickenhaus movie with Christopher Walken. Some hero released an excellent Blu Ray as part a series of Grindhouse movies and man, it's everything you could want. Walken seems to be on coke all the time, barely reacting to anything happening around him. His team includes Michael Ironside and Kevin James going up against Victor Argo's El Presidente. The villain has no name beyond 'El Presidente'.

One famous scene is Walken shooting down an F-5 fighter with his pistol and that's just a mild example of the crazy poo poo going on. It was shot in the Philippines and there are some truly impressive action set pieces with hundreds of extras, tanks, aircraft and at least 3 Robocops of deaths in each of them. You also get some rarely seen vehicles are used like the AIFV and SIAI S.211 jet trainer. And it has maybe the first appearance of a Hummer in any movie.

There is also it's very strange politics which is all over the place. On one side it's your standard evil drugs dealers thing but there is also a genuine people's revolution begging the US for support, a scene where a greedy CEO gets punched by Kevin James, a speech by Luis Guzman on how the low level dealers are just victims of the system while Ironside ponders the evils of the arms trade and the US President being completely out of touch with the problem, trying to fix it by introducing new cash money printed in red, white and blue. Oh, and there is a Vietnam bit with an opening song that sounds like it's Joan Baez but is not.

Seriously, this movie is amazing. And on Blu Ray looks pretty good.

CeeJee
Dec 4, 2001
Oven Wrangler

Mars4523 posted:

Man, just give Julie Estelle her own movie already.

Watch it on Netflix and make it so !

https://twitter.com/Timobros/status/1053849020882333696

The Operator reminded me a lot of Rebecca Ferguson in M:I, a mysterious party of unclear but not hostile alignment and immense ability. That first scene in the parking lot was fantastic with its 80's vibe of a mysterious killer in the haze.

I especially liked the strobe light behind the motorcycle synced with the muzzle flashes for a dramatic silhouette. They just should have synced the last kill a little better, they probably had budget for only one take.

CeeJee
Dec 4, 2001
Oven Wrangler

Fart City posted:

To go back to Hard Target: you don’t watch Hard Target for JCVD, you watch Hard Target for Lance Henrikson chainsawing his way through scenery and the delight of Wilford Brimley’s Cajun accent.

Henriksen is legendary, at some point he is set on fire and it just makes him really, really angry.

Anyone seen Hard Target 2 ? It's got an interesting cast but Roel Reine is a terrible director.

CeeJee
Dec 4, 2001
Oven Wrangler
It's baffling how anyone, even someone new to movie making, could look at the opening scene of Polar and go 'yeah, this is how it should be'. No Mads, ugly colors, a bunch of Suicide Squad rejects who are inept as hell, bad CGI blood and general incoherence (down to the dumb title font) that make you think you selected another movie named Polar.

CeeJee
Dec 4, 2001
Oven Wrangler
Forces spéciales / Special Forces is a solid one in the Delta Force / Navy Seals tradition. They filmed in the mountains of Tajikistan which gives the scenes set in Afghanistan a look you rarely get.

CeeJee
Dec 4, 2001
Oven Wrangler
Watched some Korean action, The Witch Part 1: Subversion and Confidential Assignment and both were very good adaptations of familiar concepts. The Witch takes the dumb concept from Lucy but takes way more time to build up the characters and delays the (really good) action stuff until the very end. It also has a neat twist on the usual way these movies play out.

I fully expected the bad guys to fridge Ja-Yoon's adoptive parents, her friend or friend's parents to trigger her powers and go after the Company that created her. But it does not happen and was not needed, her plan to go after the Company was already long made and was out of self preservation to get the superserum or else just kill them in revenge regardless. She in fact put all these people in danger with the plan to draw out her enemies.

Even when Ja-Yoon gives 2/3 of the serum she recovered to help her ill adoptive mother it's the doses she has left after taking what she expects to need to find the source of the serum. At the end you're left wondering if anything she did until the killing started was genuine or just an act.

I'm not that into K-Pop but it stood out how Ja-Yoon was called plain while her evil counterparts all looked like teen popstars.


Confidential Assignment was more conventional action stuff, imagine Red Heat except Arnold is North Korean Jason Bourne. They even use an Extreme Ways like tune when big action set pieces take place. Hyun Bin is an absolute beast in his action scenes, doing some Tom Cruise level stunts and his chemistry with his South Korean partner.

CeeJee
Dec 4, 2001
Oven Wrangler
As an intro to John Wick 3 I rewatched Brotherhood of the Wolf, the greatest historical costume kung fu political conspiracy monster movie ever made with Mark Dacascos. And goddamn it's just as awesome as ever with Dacascos, Vincent Cassel and Monica Bellucci in their prime.

One thing that susprised me was how nothing at all was shown to prepare you for mild mannered naturalist De Fronsac going full John Wick after Mani dies. Shooting guys in the face with flame arrows, kicking people through floors and walls and even scalping someone to drive the point that they really, really should not have killed his friend. It's a top 5 all time revenge rampages entry.

CeeJee
Dec 4, 2001
Oven Wrangler

Remulak posted:


Bloodsport is very, very special though, despite the overuse risks of slow motion closeups of fake hits; it contains the only known footage shot inside Kowloon walled city; that isn’t a set.

There have been more movies shot in the Walled City, Jackie Chan's Crime Story was shot just before its demolition and gets the destruction started early with a lot of explosions. Another HK movie shot there was Long Arm Of The Law in 1984.

Crime Story is a bit of an oddball for Jackie Chan, it's got both serious stuff and his trademark martial arts dialed down just a little bit to not be too much out of synch with the rest. It's also got one of the most elaborate 'cops raid the gangster hideout' scenes I've ever seen with a detailed look in how you would breach a wall.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sn90qnEh2mQ&t=2790s

The gangster going 'Cops ! Hide the money !' when there are mountains of cash everywhere is the best part.

CeeJee
Dec 4, 2001
Oven Wrangler

Basebf555 posted:

I don't even know who Glimmer Man is because I never saw the movie. Is it Seagal or Wayans? Or neither?

Both ! And some peak behind the scenes Seagal crazyness.

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According to Stephen Tobolowsky, Steven Seagal wanted to change the scene in which Cole (Seagal) kills Maynard (Tobolowsky). Due to his spiritual beliefs, Seagal did not want to kill villains in his movies anymore. Tobolowsky convinced Seagal that Maynard would be able to be reincarnated and redeemed by being killed. Seagal agreed and the scene was filmed as written. But months later, Seagal wanted to change the scene to show that Maynard survived the shooting. Tobolowsky was brought in to overdub lines to indicate that Maynard was still alive. But this was not used in the final cut.

CeeJee
Dec 4, 2001
Oven Wrangler

Snowman_McK posted:

Hands of Steel, a cheap italian terminator knock off, has some genuinely super impressive helicopter work, amusingly mirroring some of the chases in Terminator 2 a few years later.

Unfortunately these low budget movies do spectacular scenes at a high, different kind of cost.

quote:

Actor Claudio Cassinelli died in Page, Arizona during production as he was on a helicopter that crashed into the Navajo Bridge.

CeeJee
Dec 4, 2001
Oven Wrangler
Another Crying Freeman movie is The Dragon From Russia from 1990. It's pretty crazy and has Mrs. Jet Li in a shower fight.

The HK Legends DVD has a fascinating commentary with director Clarence Fok and (of course) Bey Logan on shooting without permission at the famous Peninsula Hotel and in Moscow just after the collapse of the Soviet Union. And how the studio kept messing with the movie to add whatever their whim of the moment was.
You can find the commentary audio on Youtube.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JDGb25WMLpU

Look at that knife action ! (and sloppy editing)

CeeJee fucked around with this message at 06:42 on Aug 25, 2020

CeeJee
Dec 4, 2001
Oven Wrangler
This little documentary follows Norton and Cynthia Rothrock while visiting Germany for an action movie convention. They're so cute in their passion for what they do.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6QevSX7ruTk

CeeJee
Dec 4, 2001
Oven Wrangler

Pillowpants posted:

I ran across a new movie where Megan Fox plays the head of a group of mercenaries trying to rescue a governors daughter.

I passed

This will make a good awful 'so bad it's terrible' double feature with The Doorman with Ruby Rose as a super badass soldier in Die Hard-in-a-hotel.

CeeJee
Dec 4, 2001
Oven Wrangler

Pillowpants posted:

You can’t be serious.

:mil101: You'd be suprised how little sound an elephant makes when walking. But in this movie I'm sure there are camera shaking impacts as soon as the elephants appear on screen.

CeeJee
Dec 4, 2001
Oven Wrangler

Boco_T posted:

Paul Greengrass is the reason I've seen The Bourne Identity like 10 times but have only seen Supremacy and Ultimatum once each.

Supremacy is much better on a TV then in the cinema where it's a confusing mess. I wonder how much of the shakycam looked fantastic on the director's little monitor and in the editing room.

At what point do they go to cinema size screens in post to see the effect ? Long before test screenings ? Surely some of the test audiences will have noted the action scenes were impossible to follow.

CeeJee
Dec 4, 2001
Oven Wrangler

Payndz posted:

A Twitter convo with a friend about "what's the most forgettable movie you've ever seen?" led me to look up Ballistic: Ecks Vs Sever on YouTube, on the grounds that I knew I'd seen it but could remember literally nothing. The big chase scene that came up is basically one of my nightmares given form: that somehow, I would get the chance to direct a big-budget action film... and it would come out as lethargic and disjointed and dull as Ballistic: Ecks Vs Sever.

Seriously, watch it. The supposedly high-speed motorbike chase is filmed largely in long, wide static shots, making it painfully clear that everyone involved is doing about 15mph and taking great care not to get remotely close to anything else nearby. It even makes cannon-flipping cars look boring.

I remember it mostly for being the first movie I ever saw that was actually taking place in Vancouver. And that the villain's plan was to convince Antonio Banderas his wife died and vice versa. Which must have been some weird funerals as the villain needs to carefully make sure half the family and friends go to either one and hope none of them ever mention it.

CeeJee
Dec 4, 2001
Oven Wrangler

Olympic Mathlete posted:

gently caress, this episode rules, Jude is like a stunt encyclopedia. Also that Fatal Termination clip... :eyepop:

That's quite something. It must have been too much for some as there is a 1h53 'full' Fatal Termination on Youtube and almost all of that scene was cut out.

CeeJee
Dec 4, 2001
Oven Wrangler
Jackie Chan making a grab for the Fast & Furious genre: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SsOCnqigA7g

It looks very bland and generic but I was happy to see a ridiculous Dahir Inshaat quadcopter death machine in not-real life.

For those who don't know, it's some mad Russian in Turkey who makes CGI about crazy contraptions. From trucks turning into quadcopter gunships, massive VTOL planes and earthquake proof beds.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tTGxgkxmyx8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o8I7O4JJ1ko

CeeJee
Dec 4, 2001
Oven Wrangler

Hirez posted:

wow. just have to cut in because I just finished watching this and thought it was the best movie of the year... and was about to come in praising it. Yes it's more complex than your standard Adkins movie. It's like a french The Departed if I had to compare it. It's absolutely brutal at times.

I do get your point about too many characters/etc - it helped being a wrestling fan that 3 of the bad guys looked like Ciampi (Bald guy), Roman Reigns (fatso), and The Miz (nadal).

4.5/5 from me

The Netflix tagline in Dutch on this was, translated back to English: "An honest cop who target of both corrupt cops and warring gangs in Marseille must protect his team by taking matters into his own hands" and I kept waiting for an honest cop to show up. This was an obviously wrong way to translate "A loyal cop must protect his team" by someone who never saw the movie.

As an action movie it's indeed not a standout but as a gritty police drama it works very well. Cool to see Claudia Cardinale as the gang matriarch.

CeeJee fucked around with this message at 15:06 on Nov 5, 2020

CeeJee
Dec 4, 2001
Oven Wrangler

mastershakeman posted:

The interludes between action, especially with the iranian colonel, were so much better than anything in extraction. I somehow cared way more about these swat guys than hemsworth

The 'no u' discussion between the Major and Colonel was great, especially how it had no effect at all on how the two dealt with each other afterward, it was just something habitual to do.

I wonder if the Moroccan film industry somehow convinced the goverment to bomb one of their own cities to rubble just to have a set for all the Mid-East War movies for the next decade.

CeeJee
Dec 4, 2001
Oven Wrangler

mastershakeman posted:

Is that where it was filmed? They did a great job convincing me they were in iraq

From what I can find the opening scenes of the ruined city are of Mosul. Which makes sense, you cannot send a full crew and cast there practically but good drone footage can be done easily.

CeeJee
Dec 4, 2001
Oven Wrangler

Boco_T posted:

Faster was good, counting down the days until Ahmet Atalay can get a big time gig. So many cool ideas for knocking dudes off motorcycles.

It's nice to see someone who also appreciates Mission: Impossible 2's bike chase which is really good up to the jousting.

CeeJee
Dec 4, 2001
Oven Wrangler

MrBling posted:

The first season of Strike Back was a Sky1 production for UK tv and then from season 2 on Cinemax came in to co-produce which is why everything got ramped up.
More guns, more explosions, more tits.


Shooting in South Africa and Eastern Europe gets you a lot of bang for your buck in special effects buck but they seemed to be going a bit too far.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-atvY416P9E&t=67s

There was an earlier version of this BTS bit which did not crop out the unprotected camera guy at the bottom left being completely engulfed in burning liquid. I also saw an interview with Rhona Mitra where she did not get into details but seemed to have hated the shoot.

edit:
Youtube had this in Related and I feel bad for a lot of the people in it who are solid but will likely be unable to keep it from being sunk by Ruby Rose being terrible: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ANwyOKNnCVI

CeeJee fucked around with this message at 15:04 on Feb 22, 2021

CeeJee
Dec 4, 2001
Oven Wrangler

Boco_T posted:

I'll include my review in my standard dump at some point but the Korean movie The Swordsman came out on digital yesterday and it is absolutely worth spending $5 and going out of your way to see. The action is great.


It was great and suprisingly short and to the point, I was getting used to 2,5 hour SK movies and this meant I could watch it with friends before the covid curfew.

On Netflix they just added Korean historical drama Mr. Sunshine with Lee Byun-Hun (very much not short and to the point with 24 episodes of over an hour) which seems to have some decent action in it as well, opening with a big battle from the 1871 US expedition to Korea.
Just after watching Swordsman it's striking how the Joseon officials are dressed exactly the same in 1871 even though 250 years had passed. Everone wears awesome hats and robes with an Etsy print on the front.

CeeJee
Dec 4, 2001
Oven Wrangler

dokmo posted:

We get so few midbudget action movies these days that I'm actually looking forward to a cynical John Wick ripoff.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v9OmtkCDWTM

With Paul Giamatti and the kid it feels more like a Shoot 'em Up ripoff. Which is not a bad thing in any sense.

CeeJee
Dec 4, 2001
Oven Wrangler
I remember Crimson Rivers mostly for the stunning scenery in the Alps and the seemingly random fight scene inspired by Virtua Fighter.

Another good French movie from that time is The Nest/Nid de Guepes from 2002 which stars Nadia Fares from Crimson Rivers.

CeeJee
Dec 4, 2001
Oven Wrangler

Disposable Scud posted:

The Nest owns. I also really liked the first Crimson Rivers. That sequel...

There is apparently a 3-season (short seasons though, 24 episodes in total) TV series as well. The French really like their moody cop shows in remote locations.

CeeJee
Dec 4, 2001
Oven Wrangler

PeterCat posted:

Stone Cold is 1991, but I'd still put it as 80s as hell.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1bNfag1hosI

Also, the Huey flying down the street 3' off the deck is one of the best helicopter stunts on film.

https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0848596/

Now that's an action movie resume. Only Blue Thunder is missing from 100% Platinum completion.

CeeJee
Dec 4, 2001
Oven Wrangler
Xtremo was good fun, great soundtrack too.
How Finito managed to survive being hit by a car without even a small limp is the most puzzling thing of the whole movie. He was an A-tier henchman with that 80's ponytail, good to have him survive to go out to his own death punch.

CeeJee
Dec 4, 2001
Oven Wrangler
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CIRmcgAeUUs&t=103s

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X2O1OW6i820&t=45s

Somehow the 40 year old Porsche 944 became the assassin's car of choice in 2021.

CeeJee
Dec 4, 2001
Oven Wrangler
In JW5 they can bring in Yasuaki Kurata as Sanada's father.

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CeeJee
Dec 4, 2001
Oven Wrangler

B-Rock452 posted:

I am generally fine with looks cool but just dumb, a lot of the gun stuff in some British shows is pretty bad (with the exception of Strike Back where you had kit and tactics change over the course of the show as some real world stuff evolved) but man the fighting in this show makes me wince with how visceral and violent it gets. Which is a good thing because I had been sad that Evans hadn't released any new action movies in a while.

Strike Back was shot most in South Africa and Eastern Europe where things are a bit easier to do practically.

Which makes for great action but has some side effects like lots of Czech assault rifles ending up being made fully operational again for sale on the black market after sold as 'inoperable' for use in movies.

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