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LiberalTwitter's favorite conservative (come for the correct takes on criminal justice, stay for the occasional Bush apologia) is going off on 9/11 remembrance. It also means that making GBS threads on the ceremonial nonsense has officially become bipartisan. https://twitter.com/greg_doucette/status/907218349783908352 A good and decent thread. e: 
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Here's the hurricane resources stuff from my thread. CLICK HERE FOR IMPORTANT HURRICANE HARVEY SURVIVAL RESOURCES POST CLICK HERE FOR THE GOOGLE DOC FOR HARVEY CLICK HERE FOR THE GOOGLE DOC FOR IRMA WrenP-Complete posted:Locations where gas is available or has run out are being tracked here: http://tracker.gasbuddy.com/
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Sep 11, 2017 13:44
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Jealous Cow posted:So apparently the US response in the US Virgin Islands has been virtually nonexistent. Will add the books and hurricane stuff shortly
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Sep 11, 2017 15:19
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I wonder who is going to foot the bill for repairing water and wind damage in Florida and Texas. Kidding, I know it will be every federal taxpayer. At least the local residents got their couple of years of low taxes while waiting for substandard infrastructure to be replaced for them by the Feds. Don't let anyone tell you there isn't something to be gained by kicking the can down the road.
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Sep 11, 2017 15:19
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RuanGacho posted:Will add the books and hurricane stuff shortly Yeah, what Florida saw is incomparable to the Caribbean islands getting raked by 170kt+ wind.
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Sep 11, 2017 15:20
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Merry 9/11 everyone.
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Sep 11, 2017 15:23
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Trabisnikof posted:Is today a day of the week? Must be a mass shooting in America somewhere: "Sounded like an automatic weapon" lol no it wasn't. I'm anti-gun and also anti-stupid-gun-reporting and I hate this obsession with "automatic".
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Sep 11, 2017 15:23
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So, bets on whether the Trump stuff migrates totally over here or if we just end up with two USPol threads because every 8 posts in the Trump thread start a USPol derail?
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Sep 11, 2017 15:28
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There is enough content outside the presidency to sustain a thread.
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Sep 11, 2017 15:31
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Similarly, I expect the Trump thread if properly used will go quiet on the weekend because we've seen the pattern at this point. I also expect there's little I can do to prevent this thread from being bad at times.
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Sep 11, 2017 15:45
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Which thread has the tweet dumps Which thread has the dogs Thanks
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Sep 11, 2017 16:01
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haveblue posted:Which thread has the tweet dumps All animals are taxed here, I'll be updating the OP as soon as I'm not on a stupid tablet, tweet dumps about Congress and or hurricanes probably go here.
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Sep 11, 2017 16:02
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haveblue posted:
Should you eat dogs. Should dog consumption be regulated by the government.
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Sep 11, 2017 16:04
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This past week and today have had a wave of potential congressional retirements. Many of them are in safe seats, but the less incumbency there is in 2018 the more uncertain the results could be. There's a bunch of news out today about potential Senate retirements:  Senator Mitt Romney and Senator Kid Rock will be a thing in 2018. Senate Orin Hatch (R-UT) Reports say that Hatch plans to retire and Mitt Romney will run for his Senate seat in Utah. https://twitter.com/HotlineJosh/status/907233581763907590 Bob Corker (R-TN) Says he is considering retirement and will make an announcement. Politico says it is "likely" that he retires. Tom Carper (D-DE) Usually one of the strongest fundraisers in the Senate, but only has $30,000 in his account. Won't commit to running again and will "speak to the boss (my wife) and let you know at the start of next year about where the future takes me." Diane Feinstein (D-CA) Husband is ill, she is in her 80's, won't commit to running again and will make an announcement "after determining the needs" of her family. Robert Menendez (D-NJ) Going to be a forced retirement if he is convicted in his criminal trial. Bernie Sanders (I-VT) Old. Won't commit to re-election, but says he is leaning towards running again. quote:Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.), who ran a surprisingly strong campaign for the Democratic presidential nomination last year, said he hasn’t made a decision whether to run. “But everything being equal, I think I probably will, yes,” Sanders added in a recent interview. Leon Trotsky 2012 fucked around with this message at 16:16 on Sep 11, 2017 |
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Sep 11, 2017 16:08
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Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:This past week and today have had a wave of potential congressional retirements. Seems pretty evenly split between Dems and Rs to be honest if I had my way, all seats vaguely resembling Feinsteins would open up because I really want some younger Dems NOW.
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Sep 11, 2017 16:13
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Quorum posted:Hey, you forgot the two other most potent forces in state-level politics, the Actual Military in Hampton Roads and the unholy alliance of entrenched Democratic interests and teenage marxists in Richmond! You're absolutely right. I meant to put them into the next sentence and somehow never typed it! And we can't forget the good people of Roanoke, who are like Japanese WW2 soldiers in the cave. They keep fighting, and I love them. My parents moved down to Hampton, and it's such a strange area politically. Pure Jesus vs huge government programs.
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Sep 11, 2017 16:24
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but we already had a USpol thread  anyway, today on "burn everything, salt the earth": http://www.rawstory.com/2017/09/new-hampshire-police-refuse-to-discuss-apparent-lynching-of-8-year-old-biracial-boy/amp/ quote:‘These people need to be protected’: Police won’t release info on lynching of 8-year-old biracial boy public service announcement: buying the wrong brand of moisturizer is a mistake. lynching a teenager because you can't handle his skin color is not a loving mistake.
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Sep 11, 2017 16:30
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botany posted:but we already had a USpol thread I hope someone knees that police department in the IG groin.
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Sep 11, 2017 16:38
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I just kinda was playing with a rope and it ended up in a noose shape by happenstance. Then I tripped and fell and dropped it around an 8 year old's neck. Then my buddies tried to help me up but they accidentally grabbed the noose and lifted it up instead. Oops.
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Sep 11, 2017 16:57
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botany posted:but we already had a USpol thread There was violence on both sides (of that noose).
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Sep 11, 2017 16:58
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This is definitely the thread for talking about how hosed up whitey is. If you are a white person and find yourself questioning how hosed up it is, relax, it's ok to not identify with Nazis. You might just have more in common with POC than white nationalist terrorists, in fact I guarantee you do. OP is updated.
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botany posted:but we already had a USpol thread But they're so young! Why, 14-year olds are practically babies! If we sought justice from them, that would ruin their lives forever and ever, and it's not like this 8-year old hulking menace is going to be permanently traumatized for being lynched and almost killed!  RuanGacho posted:This is definitely the thread for talking about how hosed up whitey is. Yeah, I think it's pretty clear in this case that this is what people are talking about when they say "white devils" or CACs or whatever. Majorian fucked around with this message at 17:08 on Sep 11, 2017 |
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Sep 11, 2017 17:05
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Majorian posted:But they're so young! Why, 14-year olds are practically babies! If we sought justice from them, that would ruin their lives forever and ever, and it's not like this 8-year old hulking menace is going to be permanently traumatized for being lynched and almost killed! Bet you 10 bucks the police meant their mistake was in not tying the knot better, rookie mistake. Don't worry, they'll be sure to show them all about how to tie a noose so this won't happen again.
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Sep 11, 2017 17:10
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botany posted:but we already had a USpol thread Odd, it seems kids can be tried as adults in new hampshire, and they've done so in other attempted murder cases. Wonder why they're trying to rehabilitate these particular murderous kids? 
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Sep 11, 2017 17:31
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It's 9/11, would you like to read about the Falling Man or would you like to read about the Morgan Stanley Head of Security? No rush, you can read the other one next year.
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Sep 11, 2017 17:34
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Condiv posted:Odd, it seems kids can be tried as adults in new hampshire, and they've done so in other attempted murder cases. Wonder why they're trying to rehabilitate these particular murderous kids? They're all good boys that just got mixed up in something bad...no need to make a federal case out of it. <-most of white America's mindset
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Sep 11, 2017 17:39
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https://mobile.twitter.com/adamconover/status/906992213485395969
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Sep 11, 2017 17:48
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Pembroke Fuse posted:There was violence on both sides (of that noose). He's no angel. I mean, sure, he almost was...
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Sep 11, 2017 17:55
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Haha, holy poo poo. quote:Clearly, richer borrowers were driving the trend. For instance, among prime borrowers, the growth in per capita mortgage balances held by investors was around 20 percentage points higher for those with the highest credit scores than those with the lowest.
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That article makes a little bit of a leap from what the data says, though. The actual report says that there were tons of subprime borrowers and a large increase in the number of households with sub-prime loans. It says that after 2006, when the market had already been massively expanding and inflating for over half a decade, that lots of investors (who were mostly middle-class to upper-middle class people) jumped in at the height of the bubble and helped to further expand it. It also conflates the stock market collapse with the housing market collapse. It's not wrong, per se, but there is a bit of a "correlation does not equal causation" problem with the conclusion. There was no real reason to assume that sub-prime loan trend from pre-2006 wasn't going to continue post-2006 if other people hadn't gotten in. The sub-prime loan expansion and dramatic increase in potential buyers was also part of the cause for rising house prices that led to the massive amount of people buying into the bubble at the top. It's an ouroboros of bad decisions.
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Sep 11, 2017 18:26
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actually, you'll find it was lenders who triggered the crash cause they're loving idiots who were more concerned with short term profit than not driving the economy into the ground
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Sep 11, 2017 18:34
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Condiv posted:Odd, it seems kids can be tried as adults in new hampshire, and they've done so in other attempted murder cases. Wonder why they're trying to rehabilitate these particular murderous kids? Clearly, economic anxiety is considered as a mitigating factor in the legal system as well. Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:It's an ouroboros of bad decisions. But only by the bad people. The good people were fine. This is why neoliberalism (in the actual sense,not the slapfight usage) is doomed to failure: even if everyone acts as a perfectly rational consumer in The Markets, the incentives guiding those actions can lead to longterm disaster and, generally, nobody with agency has a reason to focus on the long term.
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Sep 11, 2017 18:40
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Paracaidas posted:Clearly, economic anxiety is considered as a mitigating factor in the legal system as well. gently caress off with this
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Sep 11, 2017 18:43
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https://www.njtvonline.org/news/video/sen-booker-co-sponsoring-bernie-sanders-medicare-bill/ good news, everyone: Cory "importing cheaper drugs from Canada would be bad because, uh... safety" Booker has grasped the concept that publicly opposing improving health care for more americans, in an environment where there is literally no political advantage to doing so, is a bad idea
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Sep 11, 2017 18:45
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as long as everyone present realizes "economic anxiety" is a euphemism for blatant racism that is being downplayed
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Economic hardship isn't the same thing as economic anxiety, turns out a good chunk of the people that report themselves most anxious about the economy are people who have above average wealth for their area and fear losing it and being like those around them.
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Majorian posted:They're all good boys that just got mixed up in something bad...no need to make a federal case out of it. <-most of white America's mindset I'm a middle class white male and it makes me wonder about the morality of taking a bat to the head of every policeman that's ok with this as well as each of the "young [nazi] children". And I can't really imagine anyone I know saying "they're good boys that just got mixed up" out loud. Maybe thinking it at some point. They'd mostly just say "well they obviously didn't know what they were doing should we ruin their lives so early?" Without even a hint of irony. e: for clarity Ugato fucked around with this message at 19:09 on Sep 11, 2017 |
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Sep 11, 2017 18:52
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Trabisnikof posted:Economic hardship isn't the same thing as economic anxiety, turns out a good chunk of the people that report themselves most anxious about the economy are people who have above average wealth for their area and fear losing it and being like those around them. forgive me if i can't tell the difference anymore after dems spent 2016 pretending raising the minimum wage, single payer healthcare, and free college were appeals to racism
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Condiv posted:forgive me if i can't tell the difference anymore after dems spent 2016 pretending raising the minimum wage, single payer healthcare, and free college were appeals to racism makes sense you wouldn't understand what economic hardship is
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Trabisnikof posted:makes sense you wouldn't understand what economic hardship is yeah, making ~$20k a year sure has spoiled me
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