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Harik
Sep 9, 2001

From the hard streets of Moscow
First dog to touch the stars


Plaster Town Cop

Phi230 posted:

I think ascribing every Nazi and Reactionary in America to a Russian Puppetmaster is incredibly dangerous
Yeah, it's really two different things and it's important not to confuse the tail and the dog here. We've got really lovely tendencies as a country towards a non-democratic white ethnostate. Separately, russia may be exploiting that for their own ends. We didn't need russian meddling for the Alien and Sedition acts, or Japanese internment, or the trail of tears, or gitmo or the tuskegee experiments or tulsa or...

They're clearly stirring poo poo, but things like literal minstrel show racist caricatures in 2018 are entirely home-grown.

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Eggplant Squire
Aug 14, 2003


Allowing Kemp to be rewarded for blattant election tampering is a hell of a lot more damaging to Democracy than anything Russia did in 2016.

Also that FSU Democrats milk thing makes it pretty clear the party is going to help march us to the gallows. Literal stronger condemnation of milk throwing by a minority than murder because implying their friends the Republicans are encouraging hate crimes is too rude.

Eggplant Squire fucked around with this message at 12:25 on Nov 5, 2018

HootTheOwl
May 13, 2012

Hootin and shootin
Can I get a quick itemized list of what sleazy poo poo Kemp did this election? Someone asked me today and I found i couldn't remember beyond the latest two: The Oprah robocalls and the unnamed crime investigation.

OJ MIST 2 THE DICK
Sep 11, 2008

Anytime I need to see your face I just close my eyes
And I am taken to a place
Where your crystal minds and magenta feelings
Take up shelter in the base of my spine
Sweet like a chica cherry cola

-Cheap Trick

Nap Ghost

HootTheOwl posted:

Can I get a quick itemized list of what sleazy poo poo Kemp did this election? Someone asked me today and I found i couldn't remember beyond the latest two: The Oprah robocalls and the unnamed crime investigation.

Two lawsuits in federal court over his attempts to not count votes and throw people off the ballot without letting them cast provisional ballots. Prosecuted someone for putting stamps on an envelope.

The robocalls might not necessarily be 100% him, the dude who did them is racist nutjob from Idaho that's put them out in several races across the country. He did the one against Gilluk in Florida.

HootTheOwl
May 13, 2012

Hootin and shootin

exploded mummy posted:

Two lawsuits in federal court over his attempts to not count votes and throw people off the ballot without letting them cast provisional ballots. Prosecuted someone for putting stamps on an envelope.

The robocalls might not necessarily be 100% him, the dude who did them is racist nutjob from Idaho that's put them out in several races across the country. He did the one against Gilluk in Florida.
Thank you!
Sorry to ask one more favor; Can I get links to these stories?

OJ MIST 2 THE DICK
Sep 11, 2008

Anytime I need to see your face I just close my eyes
And I am taken to a place
Where your crystal minds and magenta feelings
Take up shelter in the base of my spine
Sweet like a chica cherry cola

-Cheap Trick

Nap Ghost

HootTheOwl posted:

Thank you!
Sorry to ask one more favor; Can I get links to these stories?

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/11/03/us/politics/georgia-governor-voting-irregularities.html

https://www.gq.com/story/georgia-governors-race-voter-fraud-debacle

HootTheOwl
May 13, 2012

Hootin and shootin

thank you

Harik
Sep 9, 2001

From the hard streets of Moscow
First dog to touch the stars


Plaster Town Cop

Radish posted:

Also that FSU Democrats milk thing makes it pretty clear the party is going to help march us to the gallows. Literal stronger condemnation of milk throwing by a minority than murder because implying their friends the Republicans are encouraging hate crimes is too rude.
Democrats: "Vote for us, the good party on women's rights"
Also democrats: "Literal spilled milk is more important than your murder."

It's like exponentially worse than Schemer both sidesing mailbombs vs public shaming in restaurants. Maybe, like fascists only understand violence, liberals only understand :decorum: and we need to frame our arguments accordingly.

bird food bathtub
Aug 9, 2003

College Slice
Just to drive home how very, very, terribly lovely Kemp is and how much the Republican party has turned into the bastard love child resulting from the reanimated corpse of Jim Crow hate-loving the Nazi movement; the current investigation into "Democratic Hacking" is a result of the electoral system Kemp is in charge of (that he is also abusing to limit minority voting) having a huge, gaping security flaw that was reported to the FBI. His response to that flaw being reported and investigated is to launch the investigation of "Democratic Hacking" into the system he has refused to secure in lieu of actively abusing it to rig the vote for the election he is running in.

https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2018/11/5/18065258/georgia-governor-race-brian-kemp-stacey-abrams-hacking-democrats-accusations

theCalamity
Oct 23, 2010

Cry Havoc and let slip the Hogs of War

Harik posted:

Democrats: "Vote for us, the good party on women's rights"
Also democrats: "Literal spilled milk is more important than your murder."

It's like exponentially worse than Schemer both sidesing mailbombs vs public shaming in restaurants. Maybe, like fascists only understand violence, liberals only understand :decorum: and we need to frame our arguments accordingly.
Liberals love the process and that’s the only way they can interpret the world

https://youtu.be/MAbab8aP4_A

Harik
Sep 9, 2001

From the hard streets of Moscow
First dog to touch the stars


Plaster Town Cop

theCalamity posted:

Liberals love the process and that’s the only way they can interpret the world

https://youtu.be/MAbab8aP4_A
Funny, I just watched that recently. Good video of how they get played constantly.

Trabisnikof
Dec 24, 2005

Remember kids, the only reason you might be concerned about Republicans using illegal voter suppression is because you want the Democrats to lose. There is no other reason possible.

Why do you hate the Democrats so much as to discuss Republicans doing illegal things?

Megaman's Jockstrap
Jul 16, 2000

What a horrible thread to have a post.
If you're not subscribed to Matt Taibbi on Substack you are missing out. An excerpt from his latest (the whole thing is this good)

quote:

A classic example of how we in the press commoditize division – even in clear and important areas of bipartisan cooperation – involved the passage of this year’s $716 billion military appropriations bill.

It was a huge bill. The year one increase in Trump’s defense budget that passed with overwhelming Democratic cooperation – 85-10 in the Senate – was $82 billion, higher than the Iraq war appropriations for either 2003 or 2004. The two-year increase.

The two-year increase of $165 billion eclipsed the peak of annual Iraq war spending and is also higher than the entire military budget for either China or Russia.

Yet what was the story about the defense bill? “Trump signs defense bill, but snubs the Senator the legislation is named after – John McCain,” was the Washington Post headline.

This was before McCain’s death. The Post assigned three reporters to this story – three! – and ripped Trump for having “name-checked” four other members of congress, but not McCain – whom Trump, they wrote, “frequently disparages.” They quoted a mortified John Kerry, who seethed: “Disgraceful.”

This story was picked up by the New York Times, the Los Angeles Times, ABC, The Hill, CNN, CBS, the AP and others. Cindy McCain even tweeted about it.

To recap: Democrats and Republicans spent a year writing themselves a pork-packed Christmas list on the scale of the Iraq invasion, full of monster expenditures, including money for dangerous new forms of nukes. Yet the headline when Trump signed the freaking thing was that he forgot to mention the Senator whose name was attached to the legislation.

This is the trick. The schism is the conventional wisdom. Making the culture war the center of everyone’s universe is job one.

A better way to think about it is that there are two sets of conventional wisdom: one for one “side,” one for the other. Think about media iniquity in pairs. For every hack on one side, there’s an opposite hack on the other side. One may be worse than the other, but their mirroring takes on big issues cumulatively to create a consistent message.

ded redd
Aug 1, 2010

Trabisnikof posted:

Remember kids, the only reason you might be concerned about Republicans using illegal voter suppression is because you want the Democrats to lose. There is no other reason possible.

Why do you hate the Democrats so much as to discuss Republicans doing illegal things?

I’m sure this will sort itself out in the end
https://twitter.com/tomreganWSB/status/1059838200699674624
And if it doesn’t you just didn’t vote hard enough and we also need to purge everyone left of center.

Condiv
May 7, 2008

Sorry to undo the effort of paying a domestic abuser $10 to own this poster, but I am going to lose my dang mind if I keep seeing multiple posters who appear to be Baloogan.

With love,
a mod


Office Pig posted:

I’m sure this will sort itself out in the end
https://twitter.com/tomreganWSB/status/1059838200699674624
And if it doesn’t you just didn’t vote hard enough and we also need to purge everyone left of center.

ugh

if the left was just a little bit more tolerant and a little less likely to dump milk on rightwingers then there might be a fourth machine there. way to gently caress things up again berniebros

ded redd
Aug 1, 2010

https://twitter.com/shaunking/status/1059866720280698881

ded redd
Aug 1, 2010

https://twitter.com/mattdpearce/status/1059844155747254272
https://twitter.com/mattdpearce/status/1059875269463494657
https://twitter.com/AdamSerwer/status/1059876278529089537

Eggplant Squire
Aug 14, 2003


Look at this disingenuous idiot try and pretend he's standing up for marginalized people (while in actuality trying to down play the white supremacists the GOP with a false equivalency) then get immediately owned in the replies. These fucks think everyone is as dumb as then and can't remember a day in the past.

https://twitter.com/jaketapper/status/1059807598453710850?s=19

Megaman's Jockstrap
Jul 16, 2000

What a horrible thread to have a post.
Jake Tapper is an enormous bootlicking piece of poo poo

Eggplant Squire
Aug 14, 2003


Megaman's Jockstrap posted:

Jake Tapper is an enormous bootlicking piece of poo poo

That whole "I'm sorry you are offended by me trying to stick up against biggotry" when doing the exact opposite shtick is some classic fascist debate tactics.

Hieronymous Alloy
Jan 30, 2009


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Morbid Hound
Remember how Jake Tapper spent the whole "foreign policy" debate asking Hillary about buttery emails?

Dude is poo poo

ded redd
Aug 1, 2010

https://twitter.com/MikeGrunwald/status/1059877827015778305

Eggplant Squire
Aug 14, 2003


Hieronymous Alloy posted:

Remember how Jake Tapper spent the whole "foreign policy" debate asking Hillary about buttery emails?

Dude is poo poo

He was also pushing the bullshit report on why Bernie was lying about MFA. When people called him on it he sheepishly retracted it sorta then later was repeating the same lines like it never happened. He's total trash and knows what he's doing.

Lightning Knight
Feb 24, 2012

Pray for Answer

Hieronymous Alloy posted:

Remember how Jake Tapper spent the whole "foreign policy" debate asking Hillary about buttery emails?

Dude is poo poo

Oh gently caress that’s who Tapper is? Lmao I had totally not made that connection what a piece of poo poo.

ded redd
Aug 1, 2010

Tapper, nasally: "How dare you disrespect the great John McCain, sir"

WampaLord
Jan 14, 2010

Hieronymous Alloy posted:

Remember how Jake Tapper spent the whole "foreign policy" debate asking Hillary about buttery emails?

Dude is poo poo

Citations Needed just did a whole episode about Jake Tapper and his particular brand of smug centrism, highly recommend:

https://soundcloud.com/citationsneeded/episode-55-jake-tapper-and-the-art-of-faux-adversarialism

ded redd
Aug 1, 2010

Everything's fine, we have visual evidence of deliberate voter suppression but a TOP DEMOCRAT says it's gravy.

Megaman's Jockstrap
Jul 16, 2000

What a horrible thread to have a post.
Voting is fine, it's only these *checks maps* majority PoC districts that are having problems. Don't worry about it.

Hieronymous Alloy
Jan 30, 2009


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Morbid Hound

WampaLord posted:

Citations Needed just did a whole episode about Jake Tapper and his particular brand of smug centrism, highly recommend:

https://soundcloud.com/citationsneeded/episode-55-jake-tapper-and-the-art-of-faux-adversarialism

I remember when people wrote articles instead of monopolizing my time with podcasts

is it transcripted somewhere

Lightning Knight
Feb 24, 2012

Pray for Answer

Hieronymous Alloy posted:

I remember when people wrote articles instead of monopolizing my time with podcasts

is it transcripted somewhere

:corsair:

Also Citations Needed is one of the few podcasts I can actually listen to and I hate podcasts, so give it a try if you haven't yet.

King of Solomon
Oct 23, 2008

S S

Hieronymous Alloy posted:

I remember when people wrote articles instead of monopolizing my time with podcasts

is it transcripted somewhere

You should listen to the podcast, but yeah, they have transcripts. Episode 55: Jake Tapper and the Art of Faux Adversarialism

Nonsense
Jan 26, 2007

Bernie is going to own Jake live just gotta wait.

Hieronymous Alloy
Jan 30, 2009


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Morbid Hound

Lightning Knight posted:

Oh gently caress that’s who Tapper is? Lmao I had totally not made that connection what a piece of poo poo.

quote:

TAPPER: So Donald Trump — to play devil’s advocate, Donald Trump says that it is supporters of Senator Sanders and supporters of yours who came to Chicago and shut down his rally with violence. Obviously, when we all looked at those horrific pictures from that night, it was not easy to discern that one side was wrong and the other side was right, or what was going on, there were a lot of people fighting.



Do you think that there are Democrats who also need to be cautioned violence is not the way to go here?

http://cnnpressroom.blogs.cnn.com/2016/03/13/full-rush-transcript-hillary-clinton-partcnn-tv-one-democratic-presidential-town-hall/

also this for maximum buttery emails:

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/v...understand.html

Jake Tapper should grab a brick, insert it into his mouth, and then wrap duct tape around his head to hold the brick in place, and leave the assembly there until he no longer has any urge at all to speak

(This is not a call for jake tapper suicide because he could still be fed intravenously).

Hieronymous Alloy
Jan 30, 2009


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Morbid Hound

King of Solomon posted:

You should listen to the podcast, but yeah, they have transcripts. Episode 55: Jake Tapper and the Art of Faux Adversarialism

thanks. It's more that I never focus on audiobooks or podcasts -- my eyes get distracted by something else which then grabs my attention. Anything I hear in a podcast I'm gonna miss half of.

Lightning Knight
Feb 24, 2012

Pray for Answer

Nonsense posted:

Bernie is going to own Jake live just gotta wait.

*berniegoesBOOgif* but it's Tapper instead of Trump.

Condiv
May 7, 2008

Sorry to undo the effort of paying a domestic abuser $10 to own this poster, but I am going to lose my dang mind if I keep seeing multiple posters who appear to be Baloogan.

With love,
a mod


Hieronymous Alloy posted:

I remember when people wrote articles instead of monopolizing my time with podcasts

is it transcripted somewhere

if you ever travel or walk a lot, podcasts are great

reading is fine when i'm on the train, but it's tougher when i'm walking to work

Rent-A-Cop
Oct 15, 2004

I posted my food for USPOL Thanksgiving!

Office Pig posted:

Tapper, nasally: "How dare you disrespect the great John McCain, sir"

I love that shitbag Democrat :decorum: addicts are the only people who still love John McCain

Condiv
May 7, 2008

Sorry to undo the effort of paying a domestic abuser $10 to own this poster, but I am going to lose my dang mind if I keep seeing multiple posters who appear to be Baloogan.

With love,
a mod


https://twitter.com/merica/status/1059955932174663680

Nix Panicus
Feb 25, 2007


Death is certain

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swampland
Oct 16, 2007

Dear Mr Cave, if you do not release the bats we will be forced to take legal action
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I9qNsYyTDBM

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