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Chicken Butt
Oct 27, 2010
I have a suggestion for Mr. Rothfuss that could solve his problem: rather than do the incredibly hard work of writing another doorstop novel, finish the trilogy as an interpretive dance. It would be perfect for Twitch. He could portray all the characters, and convey their emotions much more clearly through elegant motion than through his unimaginative prose. And I bet he looks great in a leotard! Win-win.

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Chicken Butt
Oct 27, 2010

TheGreatEvilKing posted:

I feel compelled to point out this is a direct Rothfuck quote and not Sham bam bamina! satire.

Patrick “Poe’s Law” Rothfuss

He should really abandon the boring Kvothe story and just write Fake Woke Pirate Porn.

Chicken Butt
Oct 27, 2010
I’ve never written anything in my life, and I could poo poo out a better funny pirate backstory for a couch. And pirates don’t loving say “Lo” or “thereto”. Jesus, this guy makes me irrationally angry.

Chicken Butt
Oct 27, 2010
Impressive, though, that getting older while being obese and sedentary has not curbed his horniness at all.

Edit: Mods, please change my name to Captain Fuckbeard, King of Enthusiastic Verbal Consent and Aftercare.

Chicken Butt fucked around with this message at 21:44 on Nov 25, 2020

Chicken Butt
Oct 27, 2010

PJOmega posted:

The idea of a 14 hour livestream of any author is ridiculous, much less Rothfuss. There's maybe a handful of authors I'd want to listen to 14 hours of conversation from period, and the one thing in common is they all have extensive seperate works that all explore different ideas and worlds. Not 2.4 books of homeless harry potter.

I think you mean “Soulful Tragic Byronic Gypsy Musical Genius And Really Good At Sex Homeless Harry Potter.”

Chicken Butt
Oct 27, 2010

HIJK posted:

How does the editing process actually work? If you disagree with your editor about your manuscript, what happens? I find it odd that Rothfuss went through the editing process and the resulting works are so mediocre but if he fought his editor about it then maybe it makes sense.

This is actually one of the most fascinating questions in literature. Some of the great literary works in history have been the result of a genius sitting down, writing something, and handing it over to be published, already a perfect jewel. Much more common, though, is the classic situation of a grizzled older editor with a good grasp of what sells, and what plays well with literary critics, guiding a young, neophyte writer to sculpt a promising but unruly mass of confusing plot, awkward metaphors, and under-realized characters into something sharp and memorable.

Which raises some interesting questions:
- Just how bad *was* the first draft of this Kingkiller monstrosity?
- How much heavy lifting did Rothfuss' editor, Betsy Wollheim, have to do to make The Name of the Wind coherent and entertaining?
- How bad was the first draft of The Wise Man's Fear??

Fortunately, for that last question, there is a detailed answer in Rothfuss' blog.

Edit: this blog post is also a must-read for an entirely gratuitous "Catgirl Threeway" cartoon, and a reference to his alleged role as "advisor" to a College Feminists group.

Chicken Butt fucked around with this message at 17:27 on Mar 21, 2021

Chicken Butt
Oct 27, 2010

pseudanonymous posted:

It’s like a major character “arc” development too. It’s actually very incel-esque that of all sudden women know “this guy is a sex haver”

... which Rothfuss communicates by having a bawdy, saucy tavern wench notice Kvothe’s sudden Big Dick Energy after he returns from his intensive, magical Sex Boot Camp in Faerie.

Chicken Butt
Oct 27, 2010
The comparison to Jemisin is indeed depressing; the Broken Earth trilogy is so much better than Rothfuss’ books — it has interesting ideas, originality, a coherent plot, actual characters, a decent prose style ...

Chicken Butt
Oct 27, 2010

Doctor Faustine posted:

I haven’t read any Jemisin and she exudes such colossal SFF Mean Girl energy on Twitter I refuse to so I can’t speak to the quality of her work.

Lol “colossal SFF Mean Girl energy”

Can you please make a thread about this hitherto-unknown phenomenon ... or maybe we just need to make a thread about Jemisin and about how she makes some people very angry.

Chicken Butt
Oct 27, 2010

BananaNutkins posted:

If you did research you would see that the gatekeepers, the people buying books from authors, are actively looking to buy from people from LGBTQ and diverse cultural backgrounds. It's easier to find publishing opportunities as someone in a protected group. I'm not being hateful or racist when I say that.

“I am not being an idiot,” he exclaimed, while dumping a pot of urine over his own head.

Chicken Butt
Oct 27, 2010

Horizon Burning posted:

lmfao

the first actual fantastic and legend-worthy thing he did - being a virgin who hosed REALLY good

... and that was *after* he proved himself to be the greatest musician in the land — so good, in fact, that his audiences were unable to fully appreciate the subtlety of his musical genius — and then also proved himself the greatest wizard of the age when he went to Hogwarts*, being able to easily simultaneously defeat two classmates during magical sparring.






*or whatever the gently caress it was called in Rothfuss’ pathetically unimaginative universe

Chicken Butt
Oct 27, 2010
Cancel Culture is hiding under your bed, with Antifa

On-topic: I believe that Patrick Rothfuss’ writing is bad, so bad as to be unintentionally hilarious. I hope he never publishes the third volume of KK. Unlike most of my hopes for the future, this one is a fairly safe bet, and I find that oddly comforting.

Chicken Butt
Oct 27, 2010

eXXon posted:

Seriously, is there a particular reason why this thread suddenly became a magnet for drive-by shitposts about "lol Jemisin sucks" and/or kramering in to rehash hyperbolic and easily falsifiable critiques of her tweets?

You already know the answer that you seek. (Hint: How did Donald “Biff Tanner” Trump become President of the USA?)


Content: I just double-checked, and Patrick Rothfuss is still bad at writing.

Chicken Butt
Oct 27, 2010

Doctor Jeep posted:

also the chronicler is a lovely journalist about to lose his job at "the [name of country] chronicle" for faking articles so he decides to try his luck one more time with mclovin, bast is just a regular guy faking being a fae to get a free place to sleep

... also, Kvothe was not raised by Roma/Travellers, but rather by a cheesy cosplay group who, for profit, romanticized and exploited the real "Roma" culture in this universe. Think Buffalo Bill's Wild West Show. Kvothe/McLovin was just too dense to realize this.

I really think we're onto something here!

Chicken Butt
Oct 27, 2010
While the disgusted reactions to this tweet are certainly justified, let’s all take a moment to be grateful that he didn’t mention sex in it.

Chicken Butt
Oct 27, 2010
I think the only thing I would respect at this point would be if he went full Rothfuss and had Kvothe use his ninja/Faerie sex skills to gently caress his way to victory over the Dark Lord or whatever the gently caress the Final Boss is.

Chicken Butt
Oct 27, 2010
What’s fascinating about the books is not how bad they are — certainly there is no shortage of badly-written fiction in the world — but the bizarre disconnect between how commercially and critically successful they‘ve been, despite being terrible.

Kingkiller Kronichles is the Magic Eye of fantasy lit: millions see something amazing in it; I just get a headache.

Chicken Butt
Oct 27, 2010

Lottery of Babylon posted:

He fails to educate them, they are too misguided for his words to teach

But still, very fuckable.

Chicken Butt
Oct 27, 2010
The wonderful thing about Magic Sex Ninjas is they’ll gently caress you if you just casually ask them to, unlike those uptight chicks at the fantasy conventions. Jeez, even if you’re the second-most-successful living fantasy author, you have to work so *hard* to get laid in this unenlightened reality of ours.

Chicken Butt
Oct 27, 2010

Oof, I forgot about Lin-Manuel Miranda’s involvement. The fact that he thought the books were so beautifully written that he re-read them definitely makes me question his taste & judgment.

Chicken Butt
Oct 27, 2010
What is that little scamp up to? Shouldn’t he have sexually harassed con attendees, raised money for a dubious charity, and/or issued some obvious lies about his literary output by now?

Chicken Butt
Oct 27, 2010

Lottery of Babylon posted:

If they adapt Name of the Wind to movie or tv there needs to be a little counter in the cornet of the screen at all times showing how many talents kvothe currently has like a video game hud

And another counter for his tuition

Sexing Master badge twirls onto the screen with bling sound effect

Chicken Butt
Oct 27, 2010
Paul Verhooven should direct it and turn it into a satire on toxic nerd masculinity.

Chicken Butt
Oct 27, 2010
- “He told me this long, dumb story about how he blew everyone away at an open mic night.”

- “Ohhh gawd, he told you that story too??”

Chicken Butt
Oct 27, 2010
He has apparently holed up in a hotel and is determined to finish it! He recently posted this sneak peek.

Chicken Butt
Oct 27, 2010
On the one hand, I am extremely glad that we are not actually being subjected to what would undoubtedly be an extremely painful-to-read and infuriatingly overly-successful third volume of the Khronicles, but on the other hand … what the gently caress does he do all day?? A decade of being completely unproductive would drive me to suicidal despair, and I’m not even an “artist“. I thought it was a universal thing that human beings need to be active, or their mental and physical health collapse.

Chicken Butt
Oct 27, 2010

Ccs posted:

It’s fairly entertaining on its face but there’s also a lot of insufferable stuff or things you get really annoyed about when you think about it for a few minutes afterwards.

That concisely sums up R’s entire oeuvre, thank you.

Chicken Butt
Oct 27, 2010
Jesus, what a textbook narcissist. In retrospect, Kvothe is *exactly* the kind of “hero” that a pathological narcissist would invent.

Chicken Butt
Oct 27, 2010
P. Rothfuss, stoking his beard thoughtfully: Many lesser writers are amazed by, and envious of, my mastery of the obscure literary technique known as “foreshadowing”.

Chicken Butt
Oct 27, 2010
But where are the fascinating play-by-play details on how he financed his education? I’m sure that would make for some gripping reading.

Chicken Butt
Oct 27, 2010
And the Sex Faerie who is amazed at how good the protagonist is at doing sex, just like so many people in the first novel were amazed at how good he was at doing music and doing magic.

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Chicken Butt
Oct 27, 2010
I can’t believe this thread finally roped in an actual living breathing Rothfuss fan. Clearly, this is the spice that we were missing.

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