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Glorgnole
Oct 23, 2012

Wipfmetz posted:

I've tried playing alpha centauri recently, mostly because I've stumbled over this thread here.

I'll always lose track of all my units at turn 50 or later, without having any "feeling" about how many units i've got and where that army _is_.
Units in the field are quickly eyeballed, but any units in bases require me to check every single unit.

Is there some map overlay showing me unitcounts or something? Something like "hide bases but show units"?

i tend to leave my units active but idle in my bases so i don't forget about them. the military status screen in the HQ menu has some info about unit counts, and i think it shows where they are on a little minimap, but it doesn't do a great job of converting that into letting you control a particular unit. iirc if you read some of the developer notes in the game manual the "data about your faction" info views were sort of an afterthought added by a particularly competent intern.

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Pile Of Garbage
May 28, 2007



Glorgnole posted:

iirc if you read some of the developer notes in the game manual the "data about your faction" info views were sort of an afterthought added by a particularly competent intern.

ah so that explains why datalinks feels exactly like a feature added at the last minute with zero play-testing lol

Wipfmetz posted:

Is there some map overlay showing me unitcounts or something? Something like "hide bases but show units"?

Glorgnole has already covered most of the options for unit management but i just want to add one thing: when i'm playing SMAC before i end the turn i'll switch to base view and then use the arrows next to the base name to cycle through each base so that i can check their production, resources and units.

btw if you leave your units active instead of putting them on hold as Glorgnole suggested then you can use the "Find a unit to move" item on the map right-click menu to cycle through all your units.

2xbtw: if you've got multiple combat units at a base it is sometimes worth checking and then manually setting the designated defender. by default it'll just pick the unit with the highest defence however that's not always the best option especially when dealing with psy.

hobbesmaster
Jan 28, 2008

this seems relevant to this thread’s interests
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vEfk5PjPM6Y

PittTheElder
Feb 13, 2012

:geno: Yes, it's like a lava lamp.

amazing

Pile Of Garbage
May 28, 2007



hobbesmaster posted:

this seems relevant to this thread’s interests
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vEfk5PjPM6Y

lmfao

also just sent the save, sorry i hosed up again, i have big issues with motivation and stuff

Pile Of Garbage
May 28, 2007



just noticed from my screenshots that Believers are leading in wealth:



what is going on, what is planned?

champagne posting
Apr 5, 2006

YOU ARE A BRAIN
IN A BUNKER

Pile Of Garbage posted:

just noticed from my screenshots that Believers are leading in wealth:



what is going on, what is planned?

planning oversight lmao

Pile Of Garbage
May 28, 2007



so who has the save at the moment?

Improbable Lobster
Jan 6, 2012

What is the Matrix 🌐? We just don't know 😎.


Buglord
Not I

champagne posting
Apr 5, 2006

YOU ARE A BRAIN
IN A BUNKER

not i

Improbable Lobster
Jan 6, 2012

What is the Matrix 🌐? We just don't know 😎.


Buglord
soooooo

Pile Of Garbage
May 28, 2007



ikr what is going on please don't die game :(

Qtotonibudinibudet
Nov 7, 2011



Omich poluyobok, skazhi ty narkoman? ya prosto tozhe gde to tam zhivu, mogli by vmeste uyobyvat' narkotiki
i will be very sad if the game dies before someone gets planet busters and makes a pretty new crater lake

champagne posting
Apr 5, 2006

YOU ARE A BRAIN
IN A BUNKER

Hey glorg the save you sent me is for the Pirates turn

Glorgnole
Oct 23, 2012

yeah i think the save was mis-attached somewhere down the line. the last save that was CC'd to me supposed to be Drones -> Believers, so that's what i forwarded to forums poster champagne posting. i PM'd improbable lobster so i think we can get this figured out.

anyways, i hope everyone had a good summer. i went on a canoe trip, which was very pleasant way to reject computer.

champagne posting
Apr 5, 2006

YOU ARE A BRAIN
IN A BUNKER

yall keep sending me the save for the Pirates' turn

Pile Of Garbage
May 28, 2007



im starting to feel like this is my fault. i hosed up the save when i sent it on 27/07 (selected save instead of save+exit which ticked it over to the next turn). i did mention this in the email when i sent the save:



maybe we need to roll-back to the save to the one Luigi30 sent me on July 9th?

for those playing at home: we're all CC'ing Glorgnole on the save e-mails as they're the GM so they'll have a complete record of all the saves for the PBEM game so far.

Qtotonibudinibudet
Nov 7, 2011



Omich poluyobok, skazhi ty narkoman? ya prosto tozhe gde to tam zhivu, mogli by vmeste uyobyvat' narkotiki
how far off planet busters are yall nowadays

Pile Of Garbage
May 28, 2007



probably about 100 to 150 turns which would be 3-4 years, provided that we can resolve the current issues which seem to have stalled things.

please dont die YOSPOS SMAC PBEM game :(

Glorgnole
Oct 23, 2012

Pile Of Garbage posted:

im starting to feel like this is my fault. i hosed up the save when i sent it on 27/07 (selected save instead of save+exit which ticked it over to the next turn). i did mention this in the email when i sent the save:



maybe we need to roll-back to the save to the one Luigi30 sent me on July 9th?

for those playing at home: we're all CC'ing Glorgnole on the save e-mails as they're the GM so they'll have a complete record of all the saves for the PBEM game so far.

well originally i was thinking that it was just a question of sending the right file attachment, but it looks like something got a little more screwed up than that.

the last save you sent to the Drones was from game year 2254. after them it should have gone to the Believers, then the Spartans, and then the Pirates. the pirates have the first turn of the year, so by the time it gets to them it's 2255.

however, when I open up the save the Drones (forums poster Improbable Lobster) sent to the Believers, it's prompting me for the Pirates password and the game year is 2255. somehow the game skipped the Believers and the Pirates. i checked by loading the save and they didn't get eliminated as factions within the game (which i guess is possible using the cheat menu) so i'm going to say it's a game bug. we had something like that happen a couple years ago where anthonypants of the Spartans accidentally deleted every scout patrol in the game.

**Pile of Garbage**: let's roll back the clock and have the Drones redo their turn. could you re-send Improbable Lobster their last save? did anything weird happen during your turn?

Glorgnole
Oct 23, 2012

by the way i do the "save" instead of "save+exit" all the time so I don't think that's the problem

Pile Of Garbage
May 28, 2007



Glorgnole posted:

**Pile of Garbage**: let's roll back the clock and have the Drones redo their turn. could you re-send Improbable Lobster their last save? did anything weird happen during your turn?

nothing weird happened other than me accidentally hitting "save" instead of "save+exit". i've gone and re-sent the save that i originally sent to Improbable Lobster on June 27th. here's hoping we can kick this game back to life or die trying!

Improbable Lobster
Jan 6, 2012

What is the Matrix 🌐? We just don't know 😎.


Buglord
Yeah, I'll retake my turn and resend it when I have a moment

Improbable Lobster
Jan 6, 2012

What is the Matrix 🌐? We just don't know 😎.


Buglord
for whatever reason the save didn't ask me for a password when i tried redoing my turn and sending it on. seemed weird. maybe we'll have to go back a save or two earlier?

Roosevelt
Jul 18, 2009

I'm looking for the man who shot my paw.

Roosevelt posted:

happy 2nd birthday, little thread

Roosevelt posted:

happy third birthday, little thread :3:

Roosevelt posted:

happy fourth birthday little thread



:toot: the big 5! :toot:

happy birthday little thread

champagne posting
Apr 5, 2006

YOU ARE A BRAIN
IN A BUNKER

I’ve received the file, will check it out when back home Friday

champagne posting
Apr 5, 2006

YOU ARE A BRAIN
IN A BUNKER

no bueno on the save, still telling me it's the pirates.

SHA256 hash of donezo abe.SAV:
e9ff887f8a4c0169785bf1bcc144faf1d5414ad71d1b7089839b08d4f79d6546

Improbable Lobster
Jan 6, 2012

What is the Matrix 🌐? We just don't know 😎.


Buglord
i think the save is fuckey and we'll have to go back a bit further

Powerful Two-Hander
Mar 10, 2004

Mods please change my name to "Tooter Skeleton" TIA.


there's a good chance that someone will actually land on alpha centauri before this game gets finished

Pile Of Garbage
May 28, 2007



Improbable Lobster posted:

i think the save is fuckey and we'll have to go back a bit further

ok ive sent you my save from 13/07/22, file name "stink was wronk.sav" and sha256 1AF1714F54F66B5E1A122A42C9DD7E384D3D905D1E6EFA9DFA95A1ED314D7E69

undoubtedly we'll get warnings but hopefully the game will get back on track!

Pile Of Garbage
May 28, 2007



also for content here's my save archive folder, sorted oldest to newest:

pre:
i vored.sav
moo.sav
poopy.SAV
souplord.SAV
santiago_is_in_smash.sav
poo.sav
boku.sav
spess.sav
pittsburgh.sav
stymie.sav
sundaymorning2am.sav
fruit tasting with zakharov (ASMR) (1080p).SAV
zakh lied kerbals died.sav
1.21 jiggawatts of funkin.sav
it's made of worms and it fires worms.sav
yueh lied leto died.sav
your worm is a piece of poo poo.sav
provost kerman.sav
Elon Musk's Wet Dream.sav
base.sav
elf pr0n.sav
you dont mess around with zakh.sav
i have not been to paradise.sav
i too am gaian.sav
iron chef planet.sav
register sibko identity.sav
aw gently caress worms.sav
gently caress my base is dead.SAV
donate to the university plox.sav
da share my wife zone.sav
defcon 69.SAV
surface to mind worm missiles.sav
the edict of worms.SAV
the nice number.sav
woomy.SAV
i have 3 bases again.SAV
now i have three bases ho ho ho.SAV
santiago done did it now.SAV
grow faster you stupid base.sav
the fungus among us (it's the spartans).SAV
third base memorial.sav
all your zig are belong to us.sav
i'll kiss yer fuckin dalmatian.SAV
stop rioting you fucks.sav
colin mochrie.SAV
spartan high school style.SAV
in space no one can hear you wom.SAV
galaxy quest.SAV
earthzakharov.SAV
itsthesave_glorg.SAV
bad.sav
diarrhea cha cha cha.sav
dungeon siege.sav
segata sanshiro.sav
go away.sav
santiagoaway.sav
santiagoodbye.sav
traffic department 2192.sav
pew pew.sav
santiagowned.sav
richard producer executive wolf.sav
genesis.sav
ensign ro khanna.sav
goku did nothing wrong.sav
wormcel.sav
bi_now_gaian_later.sav
pizza_pasta_put_it_in_a_pod.SAV
all these worlds are yours except planet.sav
impeach santiago.sav
cant even get UPN on my network node.sav
merry wormmas.sav
concordat of worms.sav
comcast fixed my network node.sav
kony 2208.sav
flight of the navigator.sav
yang gang.sav
yang gang 2000.SAV
crazy bob's speeders.sav
corvid-19.SAV
isocube.SAV
kid tested worm approved.sav
atomics.sav
GAWD.sav
deedee megadoodoo.SAV
huns.sav
wormsign.sav
dingus.sav
komm susser worm.SAV
kony 2224.SAV
a vagrant.sav
october surprise.SAV
barnacle jim.SAV
jeffrey of planet.sav
joseph r biden.sav
spaceballs.sav
kony 2020.sav
a case of the morbs.sav
boats.sav
hunter-seeker biden.sav
surface to goku missiles.sav
reach out and touch fungus.sav
april fools.SAV
yeet.sav
set phasers to love.SAV
wierd al fish heads dot mp3.SAV
carousel of progress.sav
abba.sav
naoto.sav
pink floyds the save 2.sav
DYUUUUUUUUUUN.sav
crawler in my skin.sav
concordat.sav
worms in my worms.sav
hot takes heeyah.SAV
weed.sav
mister weedie.sav
stink was wronk.sav
drones everywhere.sav
edit: i don't change the save name before sending it on because i'm boring so the file names are c/o the other players in the game.

Pile Of Garbage fucked around with this message at 15:47 on Oct 19, 2022

Improbable Lobster
Jan 6, 2012

What is the Matrix 🌐? We just don't know 😎.


Buglord
I'll retake that turn once i'm done work tomorrow probably-hopefully

SmokaDustbowl
Feb 12, 2001

by vyelkin
Fun Shoe

Pile Of Garbage posted:

also for content here's my save archive folder, sorted oldest to newest:

pre:
i vored.sav
moo.sav
poopy.SAV
souplord.SAV
santiago_is_in_smash.sav
poo.sav
boku.sav
spess.sav
pittsburgh.sav
stymie.sav
sundaymorning2am.sav
fruit tasting with zakharov (ASMR) (1080p).SAV
zakh lied kerbals died.sav
1.21 jiggawatts of funkin.sav
it's made of worms and it fires worms.sav
yueh lied leto died.sav
your worm is a piece of poo poo.sav
provost kerman.sav
Elon Musk's Wet Dream.sav
base.sav
elf pr0n.sav
you dont mess around with zakh.sav
i have not been to paradise.sav
i too am gaian.sav
iron chef planet.sav
register sibko identity.sav
aw gently caress worms.sav
gently caress my base is dead.SAV
donate to the university plox.sav
da share my wife zone.sav
defcon 69.SAV
surface to mind worm missiles.sav
the edict of worms.SAV
the nice number.sav
woomy.SAV
i have 3 bases again.SAV
now i have three bases ho ho ho.SAV
santiago done did it now.SAV
grow faster you stupid base.sav
the fungus among us (it's the spartans).SAV
third base memorial.sav
all your zig are belong to us.sav
i'll kiss yer fuckin dalmatian.SAV
stop rioting you fucks.sav
colin mochrie.SAV
spartan high school style.SAV
in space no one can hear you wom.SAV
galaxy quest.SAV
earthzakharov.SAV
itsthesave_glorg.SAV
bad.sav
diarrhea cha cha cha.sav
dungeon siege.sav
segata sanshiro.sav
go away.sav
santiagoaway.sav
santiagoodbye.sav
traffic department 2192.sav
pew pew.sav
santiagowned.sav
richard producer executive wolf.sav
genesis.sav
ensign ro khanna.sav
goku did nothing wrong.sav
wormcel.sav
bi_now_gaian_later.sav
pizza_pasta_put_it_in_a_pod.SAV
all these worlds are yours except planet.sav
impeach santiago.sav
cant even get UPN on my network node.sav
merry wormmas.sav
concordat of worms.sav
comcast fixed my network node.sav
kony 2208.sav
flight of the navigator.sav
yang gang.sav
yang gang 2000.SAV
crazy bob's speeders.sav
corvid-19.SAV
isocube.SAV
kid tested worm approved.sav
atomics.sav
GAWD.sav
deedee megadoodoo.SAV
huns.sav
wormsign.sav
dingus.sav
komm susser worm.SAV
kony 2224.SAV
a vagrant.sav
october surprise.SAV
barnacle jim.SAV
jeffrey of planet.sav
joseph r biden.sav
spaceballs.sav
kony 2020.sav
a case of the morbs.sav
boats.sav
hunter-seeker biden.sav
surface to goku missiles.sav
reach out and touch fungus.sav
april fools.SAV
yeet.sav
set phasers to love.SAV
wierd al fish heads dot mp3.SAV
carousel of progress.sav
abba.sav
naoto.sav
pink floyds the save 2.sav
DYUUUUUUUUUUN.sav
crawler in my skin.sav
concordat.sav
worms in my worms.sav
hot takes heeyah.SAV
weed.sav
mister weedie.sav
stink was wronk.sav
drones everywhere.sav
edit: i don't change the save name before sending it on because i'm boring so the file names are c/o the other players in the game.

I have a backup of all my saves, just a clip

SmokaDustbowl
Feb 12, 2001

by vyelkin
Fun Shoe
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fxkBD3kbpUA

champagne posting
Apr 5, 2006

YOU ARE A BRAIN
IN A BUNKER

the game lives!

Pile Of Garbage
May 28, 2007



champagne posting posted:

the game lives!

mashallah!

also you can get SMAC on GOG for AU$2.40 right now: https://www.gog.com/en/game/sid_meiers_alpha_centauri

Glorgnole
Oct 23, 2012

sent my save. i see that we went back to 2253 -- time travel! hopefully the bad thing that happened before doesn't happen again.

Pile Of Garbage
May 28, 2007



Silver Alicorn
Mar 30, 2008

𝓪 𝓻𝓮𝓭 𝓹𝓪𝓷𝓭𝓪 𝓲𝓼 𝓪 𝓬𝓾𝓻𝓲𝓸𝓾𝓼 𝓼𝓸𝓻𝓽 𝓸𝓯 𝓬𝓻𝓮𝓪𝓽𝓾𝓻𝓮
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hailthefish
Oct 24, 2010

I love this thread where some of my favorite posters play one of my favorite games in the style of my favorite kind of LP: grey hunter's real-time wargame LPs

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