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Top City Homo
Oct 15, 2014


Ramrod XTreme



but with china

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Top City Homo
Oct 15, 2014


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America is a really stable and rational world actor and not a failing, rabid dog like thrashing banana republic in waiting thrashing around and biting everything in a futile attempt to stem away death and decay

Top City Homo
Oct 15, 2014


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he is going to make communism great again

:china:

Top City Homo
Oct 15, 2014


Ramrod XTreme
corbyn leaves the EU and Britain joins China through a loophole from Hong Kong times

Top City Homo
Oct 15, 2014


Ramrod XTreme
2020: corbyn declares all of the UK to be Hong Kong

red guards and communist party cells pop up in Nottingham

tories hanged in the streets

Top City Homo
Oct 15, 2014


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C. Everett Koop posted:

but how is that going to work with all the sharia law britain has :confused:

Arise, ye prisoners of starvation!
Arise, ye wretched of the earth!
For justice thunders condemnation:
A better world's in birth!
No more tradition's chains shall bind us;
Arise, ye slaves, no more in thrall!
The earth shall rise on new foundations:
We have been nought, we shall be all!
'Tis the final conflict;
Let each stand in his place.
The International working class
Shall be the human race!
'Tis the final conflict;
Let each stand in his place.
The International working class
Shall be the human race!

Top City Homo
Oct 15, 2014


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Fallen Hamprince posted:

lol guyovich actually thinks comrade davos is going to usher in full communism, thats so loving cute lmao

free trade is loaded with revolutionary potential


https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1888/free-trade/

Top City Homo
Oct 15, 2014


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Epic High Five posted:

it's infested with Huckabees tho

Huckabee and his rotund human being sons

Top City Homo
Oct 15, 2014


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Typo sounds like a common wrecker imo

Top City Homo
Oct 15, 2014


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C. Everett Koop posted:

and yet they're not the fattest, dumbest person in the state




:razorfront:

who is this and how is that possible?

Top City Homo
Oct 15, 2014


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Cerebral Bore posted:

Cyborgs can time their popbooms with Golden Ages are also going to get the Cloning Vats long before anybody else even gets close, so I don't see how that's an objection.

Also industry is literally the strongest bonus. Free Drones running Democratic/Planned/Wealth get 40% lower mineral costs as well as actual money. It's broken af.

communism/anarcho-syndicalism is objectively better so no its not broken af

Top City Homo
Oct 15, 2014


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Sheng-Ji Yang posted:

otoh smac is the greatest game ever made and everything about it owns

Top City Homo
Oct 15, 2014


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Calibanibal posted:

skimmed thru this rpg talk but i just say this - everybody play everything by spider software. geneforge, nethergate, avernum remake, avadon. all good tactical turn-based, awesome plot huge world, thanks for reading

how can one dude make so many amazing titles?

i highly recommend age of decadence

Top City Homo
Oct 15, 2014


Ramrod XTreme
lets go bong some heads!

Top City Homo
Oct 15, 2014


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rudatron posted:

yang is an obsessive control freak who's okay with crimes against humanity. That's 'evil'.

there is some excellent yang fan fiction based on the life of a regular drone worker living in the hive

it was pretty great although I don't know if it still exists on the web

Top City Homo
Oct 15, 2014


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Baloogan posted:

find homework explainer's fan fiction for us please

it basically had drones walking down dark tunnels constantly monitored, people sleeping naked next to each other to promote reproduction and various pretty well done scenes with the chairman questioning a subordinate.

the whole thing ended with the creation of a planet buster

Top City Homo
Oct 15, 2014


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i cant for the life of me believe that morgan would be a viable faction

how the hell do you transplant an exploitative non producing casino ideology into a place that has no goods or consumers?

its like having libertarians start one of their fail settlements

how will it not just immediately fall apart?

Top City Homo
Oct 15, 2014


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Typo posted:

oh yeah and Katyn massacre was committed by the gestapo too

im the guy in the thread giving the gestapo the benefit of doubt

Top City Homo
Oct 15, 2014


Ramrod XTreme
http://www.bbc.com/news/business-42107311

Top City Homo
Oct 15, 2014


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XI Yi Ping Thought

Socialism is Electrification + Soviet Power + Fully Automated Luxury Toilets

Top City Homo
Oct 15, 2014


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Fallen Hamprince posted:

reason for execution: hung toilet paper roll wrong way

the revolution will not be stopped by capitalist ditch/hole toilet roaders

Top City Homo
Oct 15, 2014


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Annual Prophet posted:

dung xiaoping thought

new username gold

Top City Homo
Oct 15, 2014


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China is actually great

Great China and the coming Golden Revolution

Top City Homo
Oct 15, 2014


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shame on you all for emptyquoting hamprince

Top City Homo
Oct 15, 2014


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Bulgogi Hoagie posted:

everybody who lives in china itt should probably sign

https://twitter.com/amnesty/status/935990434203144194

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-china-42218618

Top City Homo
Oct 15, 2014


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Typo posted:

I really want to play a good china-centric strategy game but the closest I get to that is paradox

I want something that simulates the complexity of imperial governance of the song-yuan-ming-qing era and fighting off the northern/western nomads

the closest I came to that was EU III era china, which imo had better mechanics in many ways than EU IV china, like for example a really cool mechanic in EU 3 is that you have to colonize with colonists nomad provinces like you would the new world to annex them or else they just fall back into nomadic control after a while which is really accurate

also in eu 3 the westernization mechanics are way superior, you basically have to work your way up to the western tech group and go through a stability -5 hit for every "level" you go through. Which really simulates how painful westernization/modernization can be. Whereas not not even A.I Ming ever falls behind in institutions.

ck2 has nomad agitation mechanic

Top City Homo
Oct 15, 2014


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good

Top City Homo
Oct 15, 2014


Ramrod XTreme
everything the west reports is a lie

Top City Homo
Oct 15, 2014


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Xelkelvos posted:

So what's the truth?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UlSWKfsRUkE

Top City Homo
Oct 15, 2014


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accept the fact that chyna is good

Top City Homo
Oct 15, 2014


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Karl Barks posted:

china is 70% good and 30% bad has anyone done this yet

europeans were savages when china had a powerful developed empire

we got our little time in the sun but now we are going to return to the caves and let the chinese do their thing

maybe they can civilize us finally

and maybe our children will never have to deal with a sovcitizen yelling about yellow fringed flags and race war because of it

Top City Homo
Oct 15, 2014


Ramrod XTreme
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lz_THeAXe9w

Top City Homo
Oct 15, 2014


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China no longer needs foreign currency infusion so the plan is to stimulate demand for foreign goods

soon there will be a large market in China for foreign consumer products and then China will quietly announce that foreign imports will be denominated in yuan not dollars

Top City Homo
Oct 15, 2014


Ramrod XTreme

purchasing

power

parity

Top City Homo
Oct 15, 2014


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i miss the USSR

Top City Homo
Oct 15, 2014


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Yossarian-22 posted:

tankies are the original "um actually" guys but instead of pedantry it's poo poo that killed millions of people

Top City Homo
Oct 15, 2014


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china has the computing power to start going planned economy at any time

Top City Homo
Oct 15, 2014


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Yossarian-22 posted:

virgin white stalinist lf vet vs. chad actual chinese person



virgin statue of liberty vs. chad motherland swordsmaiden

Top City Homo
Oct 15, 2014


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Yossarian-22 posted:

For the record, I had a Marxist economics professor who has written a ton about this very subject. He has also been to China and both of the Koreas, has contacts in the labor movement, and even given talks in Cuba about how the Chinese economic system isn't worth emulating

His newest article on China is here. https://economicfront.wordpress.com/2018/04/12/whats-driving-trade-tensions-between-the-us-and-china/amp/

"For its part, the Chinese government is trying to use its large state-owned enterprises, control over finance, investment restrictions on foreign investment, licensing powers, government procurement policies, and trade restrictions to build its own strong companies. These are reasonable development policies, ones very similar to those used by Japan, South Korea, and Taiwan. It is short-sided for progressives in the US to criticize the use of such policies. In fact, we should be advocating the development of similar state capacities in the US in order to rebuild and revitalize the US economy.

That doesn’t mean we should uncritically embrace the Chinese position. The reason is that the Chinese government is using these policies to promote highly exploitative Chinese companies that are themselves increasingly export oriented and globalizing. In other words, the Chinese state seeks only a rebalancing of power and wealth for the benefit of its own elites, not a progressive restructuring of its own or the global economy."

At the same time, China has explicitly rejected Singapore's actual state capitalist model

quote:

China rejects Singapore model for state-owned enterprise reform
in Shanghai

Chinese policymakers have largely rejected plans to depoliticise state-owned enterprises by governing them through financial holding companies that aim solely to maximise returns.

A forthcoming plan to reform China’s SOEs is the latest sign that efforts to boost efficiency and profitability are taking a back seat to ensuring that state groups support government macroeconomic and industrial policies.

Use of holding companies, a model based on that of Singaporean wealth fund Temasek, had been seen as a middle way between the privatisation of SOEs and the current system, in which top managers are approved by the Communist party and often put politics ahead of commercial considerations.

But the new plan from the finance ministry and the State-owned Assets Supervision and Administration Commission will cap the number of Temasek-style holding companies at two or three, compared with more than 80 central government-owned SOEs, the official Shanghai Securities News reported on Thursday.


[capitalist propaganda omitted]

The gap reflects the government’s use of SOEs to advance policy goals. [capitalist propaganda omitted]


In addition, big acquisitions such as ChemChina’s $44bn purchase of Syngenta were used to acquire advanced technology, even though the deals might not be profitable for the acquirer.

Singapore’s Temasek holds stakes in domestic and foreign companies and is known for making decisions based purely on financial considerations.

In February 2016 Sasac launched a pilot programme in which two SOEs were chosen to operate as Temasek-style “capital operation companies”. The two were China Chengtong Holdings, a paper-products conglomerate, and China Reform Holdings, a platform established in 2010 to invest in a range of industries.

Local governments in Shanghai and Chongqing have also established capital operation companies. In 2015 Shandong province took a similar step by transferring shares in provincial SOEs to the social security fund, which focuses purely on maximising investment return.

Related efforts to change management incentives include a pilot programme to let boards of directors, rather than the Communist party and Sasac, appoint senior management.

The soon-to-be-released plan from the finance ministry and the State Assets Supervision and Administration Commission (Sasac) builds on the broad outline for SOE reform approved in 2015.

But Sasac has now cooled on the Temasek model. According to Caixin, a respected financial news website, Sasac has decided not to expand the existing pilot programme for capital operation companies.

The agency feels that promoting the Temasek model would reinforce an undesirable trend in China’s economy towards “fake” investment that generates profits by shifting money between existing assets without generating new economic activity, Caixin reported.

Sheer size also remains a top priority for SOE reform. The plan calls for reducing the number of central SOEs to less than 90 from the current 101. Sasac controlled 189 central SOEs when the agency was created in 2003, but successive rounds of mergers have steadily reduced that number.

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Top City Homo
Oct 15, 2014


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Yandat posted:

it would have been cool as heck if Germany had had a successful revolution

This is where it failed: Battle of Warsaw 1920

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