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Dr. Jerrold Coe
Feb 6, 2021

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Judakel posted:

her insane accounts of north korea just get more hilarious as she goes deeper down the podcast hole

No ice cream? Then how did Kim get so FAT?????

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Dr. Jerrold Coe
Feb 6, 2021

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Grapplejack posted:

being racist. something about china threads brings them out! it happens on both sides tho since pevin stan got banned for racism but pro-china racism

I'm honestly so sick of Han supremacism

Dr. Jerrold Coe
Feb 6, 2021

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sullat posted:

yes, Colonel Kurtz, known reliable narrator.

Yeah I figured it was echoing CIA stooge Thomas Dooley's famous "true" atrocity tale of the VC jamming chopsticks into kids' ears so they couldn't hear the lord's prayer

Dr. Jerrold Coe
Feb 6, 2021

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quote:

In 1956, Dooley's book Deliver Us from Evil was released and became a best-seller, establishing him as an icon of American humanitarian and anti-communist activities abroad. His vivid accounts of communist atrocities committed on Catholic refugees appear to have been either fabricated or exaggerated. It has been alleged that Dooley was passing along descriptions of events that had been created by Landsdale and his team.[15] In 1956, U.S. officials who were stationed in the Hanoi-Haiphong area during his tour of duty submitted a lengthy report to the U.S. Information Agency holding that Deliver Us from Evil was "not the truth" and that the accounts of Viet Minh atrocities were "nonfactual and exaggerated." However, the US government kept the report classified for nearly thirty years.[16] James Fisher allows that the U.S. Information Agency report was "valid," but he also argues it "must be viewed with some suspicion" because they were preparing to "discredit Dooley" as "an insurance policy against a renewed outbreak of anti-internationalism."[17]

Dooley's book featured exceptionally gory tales of religious persecution. The doctor claimed the Viet Minh jammed chopsticks into the ears of children to keep them from hearing the Lord's Prayer and regularly mutilated Catholic instructors. Most sensationally, he fabricated a story of the Viet Minh pounding nails into the head of a priest—"a communist version of the crown of thorns, once forced on the Savior of whom he preached." He also claimed that Ho Chi Minh's forces had "disemboweled more than 1,000 native women in Hanoi." Thirty years after his death, in response to a journalist's question, Lederer said that "the atrocities the doctor described 'never took place.'"[16] At the time, however, Lederer brokered a deal with Reader's Digest to publish Dooley's claims to their massive audience;[1] and, he used him as the "real-life model" for Father John Finian, a heroic character in The Ugly American.[18]

Commenting on these allegations, Seth Jacobs[19] wrote that although Dooley "may have exaggerated or fabricated", this was not done to make his book more sensational. Instead, these atrocity stories grew out of a period of immersion in the refugee drama, from September 1954 to May 1955, a period during which he drove himself so mercilessly that he went from 180 to 120 pounds, "nearly died of malarial fever, acquired four types of intestinal worms, and suffered so acutely from sleep deprivation that he frequently hallucinated."

lmao this CIA propagandist is just a smol bean doing his best uwu

Dr. Jerrold Coe
Feb 6, 2021

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John Charity Spring posted:

the venezuela thread was fantastic because there were outright fascists posting there about how the communists needed to be slaughtered to save the pure souls of venezuela's children but the liberal contingent would just nod along with them and only get angry if anyone said that maduro and chavez weren't evil

Whatever happened to fnox or whatever his name was, the venezuelan dude with the bird av who embodied the oppressed spirit of the vzn people

Dr. Jerrold Coe
Feb 6, 2021

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Some Guy TT posted:

the best part is when american media acts like the chinese government giving people things that they like is proof that their grip is weakening since a truly legitimate government would just constantly tell everyone to gently caress off

See also the perfidious Hugo Chavez bribing the Venezuelan people with "increased food security" (RIP)

Dr. Jerrold Coe
Feb 6, 2021

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Pener Kropoopkin posted:

This is real Satanic Panic level stuff.

Wow sounds like you love Kim Jong Un and want to kiss him and kiss his fat butt

Dr. Jerrold Coe
Feb 6, 2021

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My dumbass coworker who loves Joe Rogan told us all about how the DPRK has no word for "love" one day, it's crazy, they want you to only love the govt!

Dr. Jerrold Coe
Feb 6, 2021

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AnimeIsTrash posted:

That episode owns, she says so much insane poo poo with a straight face.

I got called a DPRK stan on these forums for saying that I don't think the US should be sanctioning DPRK to death. Also told that the DPRK guards were to keep people in the country. Instead of being a level of protection against the countries that consistently do war games on it's border.

Learning that our "military exercises" were simulated bombing runs really clocked me to the bullshit about CRAZY KIM WANTS NUKES etc

Dr. Jerrold Coe
Feb 6, 2021

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Spergin Morlock posted:

pretty much any "military exercise" that takes place on the border of a hostile country involves moving equipment and personnel around in the same way that would happen for an actual attack. It's like throwing a punch at someone's face and stopping an inch short

Same turf as China VIOLATING TAIWAN'S AIRSPACE which happens to uh be over mainland China

Dr. Jerrold Coe
Feb 6, 2021

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half cocaine posted:

lmao what the gently caress is this thread

Obvi we support DPRK and the PRC against the west

Dr. Jerrold Coe
Feb 6, 2021

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half cocaine posted:

so how much glue do i have to sniff to crave the socialist paradise of the dprk

Oh okay you're doing a bit as a dipshit cool

Dr. Jerrold Coe
Feb 6, 2021

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DPRK is an incredibly poor country and has a run of the mill authoritarian govt yet the most powerful propaganda organ on earth would say THEY'RE INSANE THEY'RE loving CRAZY THEY WANT TO NUKE US hmmmmm what do you do

Dr. Jerrold Coe
Feb 6, 2021

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Judakel posted:

thats the only reason i support them, are you telling me they dont mean it?

Well yeah but it's self defense

Dr. Jerrold Coe
Feb 6, 2021

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KSA cuts your loving hands off for the crime of gay sorcery and they're our number 2 ally in the middle east but sure we give a poo poo about human rights above the 38th parallel

Dr. Jerrold Coe
Feb 6, 2021

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DiscountDildos posted:

Normal, human response to people remembering that time the US bombed every square inch of a country in an attempt to kill every living thing inside it.

"If that's bad why are they so poor and weird?!"

loving lunatic poo poo lmao

Wow they're so paranoid just because we've constantly tried to destroy them!

Dr. Jerrold Coe
Feb 6, 2021

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half cocaine posted:

luv to stan for those prison camps you can see from space

Yeah Angola's pretty hosed up

Dr. Jerrold Coe
Feb 6, 2021

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We're literally still an apartheid state and simps will say poo poo like this

Dr. Jerrold Coe
Feb 6, 2021

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What I love is that every prisoner in an Enemy country is Solzhenitsyn but all of our homeless people are criminal scum who deserve to die

Dr. Jerrold Coe
Feb 6, 2021

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Stockwell posted:

no no you see they have "prison camps" which are bad while the US has "detention facilities" which are good it's completely different, furthermore

"Labor camps" while American companies use prison labor as a matter of course

Dr. Jerrold Coe
Feb 6, 2021

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Judakel posted:

Lmao dprk is poo poo, china owns tho

DPRK owns for sticking it out

Dr. Jerrold Coe
Feb 6, 2021

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ughhhh posted:

Does anyone have that post with articles about how east Asia was advertised as sex r&r spot for our troops during the occupation of Japan and Vietnam war.

You can also just watch any media from the time like the rapist British thug James Bond in You Only Live Twice, written by beloved antisemite children's author Roald Dahl, pop culture east Asia exists as a wonderland of instant sexual gratification for white men

Dr. Jerrold Coe
Feb 6, 2021

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BrainDance posted:

It's just a word to describe people, talking about "sexpats" what other word do you use here? Sexpats comes from expats.

In real life I just use people's nationality.

It's not condescension. It's literally what it is, you were with lovely people in apparently not China. That sucks. But it's stupid to be like "all people who go to another country are like this, the racial characteristics of the British make them especially evil." That's a gross thing to do about anyone.

Ehhhh I feel like there's real, attributal filters that create the anglo sexpat creep class, just like how the empire used to send all its most perverted failsons to manage the raj

Dr. Jerrold Coe
Feb 6, 2021

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F Stop Fitzgerald posted:

john rabe, father of the red brown alliance

loving wild piece of history, in a crazy combo with the Japanese guy in Europe who gave away 1000s of passports to Jews looking to flee

Dr. Jerrold Coe
Feb 6, 2021

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CaptainACAB posted:

You should instead hate Japan for being a right wing ethnostate run by insane genocide denialist fascists who are often the literal flesh and blood descendants of some of the worst war criminals in the history of the world.

Yeah but I mean, we did that

Dr. Jerrold Coe
Feb 6, 2021

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F Stop Fitzgerald posted:

im guessing pearl harbor drove americans completely insane in the same ways 9/11 did, probably even more so

Oh hell yeah, it was full on race war poo poo, respectable thing knowers wondering if we should exterminate the japs completely or merely reduce them to a slave race

Dr. Jerrold Coe
Feb 6, 2021

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CaptainACAB posted:

Nah we just didn't change it all the monsters were there well before America was.

Well yeah but our occupation deliberately didn't root out the fascists post war and instead empowered them in fear of communist gains

Dr. Jerrold Coe
Feb 6, 2021

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James Bradley, coauthor of Flags of Our Fathers, wrote a book called The China Mirage which is about the most materialist pov you're gonna get from a liberal, chronicling our flip flopping between China and Japan as the great white hope of missionaries/anticommunism and about the foundation of the "lost china" myth post revolution

Dr. Jerrold Coe
Feb 6, 2021

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StashAugustine posted:

what's japanese for gladio

I don't listen to cumtown

Dr. Jerrold Coe
Feb 6, 2021

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HerraS posted:

Clive Cussler books are funny as poo poo because he always had to come up with some contrived reason the spooky bad guys need to dig up some sunken poo poo to threaten the US with because dude just loving loved shipwrecks.

The only one I can remember anything about was about a north korean who was undercover as a, uhhh, south korean multimillionare and he wanted to get some sunken IJA submarines that were carrying some sort of cyanide & smallpox super poison or other dumb poo poo. Another book is about japanese terrorists who want to salvage a secret third atom bomb carrying plane that fell into the pacific in 1945.

I read one of the later ghost written Cusslers where an evil Eskimo tribe plan to use genetically engineered killer salmon to wipe out fish stocks worldwide, by dropping them from a blimp into the ocean. There's also a lost Basque ship in the arctic iirc.

Dr. Jerrold Coe
Feb 6, 2021

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Wow get a load of these cspam freaks!!!!

Dr. Jerrold Coe
Feb 6, 2021

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Truga posted:

i googled anne applebaum and she appears to be an american millionaire from yale so i'll just apriori assume she's another rich faildaughter "journalist" and everything she says about anything outside the USA is insanely wrong

She's an old school anticommunist freak and as others posted she's married to a polish rightist and lit. wrote a bit about how upset she was that fascists kept showing up to her dinner parties

Dr. Jerrold Coe
Feb 6, 2021

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Horseshoe theory posted:

Wasn't Freeland's grandfather basically a mini Julius Streicher?

Freeland's maternal grandfather, Michael Chomiak (Ukrainian: Mykhailo Khomiak), had been a journalist before World War II. During the war in Nazi-occupied Poland and later in Nazi-occupied Austria he was chief editor of the Ukrainian antisemitic daily newspaper Krakivs'ki visti (News of Krakow) for the Nazi regime.[79] After Chomiak's death in 1984, John-Paul Himka, a professor of history at the University of Alberta, who was Chomiak's son-in-law (and also Freeland's uncle by marriage), used Chomiak's records, including old issues of the newspaper, as the basis of several scholarly papers focused on the coverage of Soviet mass-murders of Ukrainian civilians. These papers also examined the use of these massacres as propaganda against Jews.[80][81][82] In 2017, when Russian-affiliated websites[which?] further publicized Chomiak's connection to Nazism, Freeland and her spokespeople responded by claiming that this was a Russian disinformation campaign during her appointment to the position of minister of foreign affairs.[83][84][85][86][79] Her office later denied Chomiak ever collaborated with the Nazi Germany.[87] However, Freeland has known of her grandfather's Nazi ties since at least 1996, when she helped edit a scholarly article by Himka for the Journal of Ukrainian Studies.[83]

Dr. Jerrold Coe
Feb 6, 2021

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China has also come out aggressively against things like video games, so I think they generally want their people working and producing more, and spending time doing leisure activities less. So perhaps "idleness" is anything that the CCP views as unproductive.

Dr. Jerrold Coe
Feb 6, 2021

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HiroProtagonist posted:

This isn't actually true (yet another example of inaccurate western reporting). That actual issue (capping time on video games) was advanced by an industry group, sort of an internal manufacturer's association as a recommendation, faced with criticism from parents and public figures alike about the borderline exploitative addictive structures that are quite common in the Chinese games market. A similar initiative against homework was driven by parents concerned about the intense pressure on their children, and it fed into the later legislative action (by the People's Assembly) to heavily restrict the influence of private education which had been primarily driving the bulk of academic pressure and huge volumes of homework on children.

Both were (naturally) reported as "CPC BANS VIDEO GAMES AND PRIVATE TUTORS!!!!!!!!" in western press, when in reality that described neither in any real terms.

Unironic thank you for replying to that succ post

Dr. Jerrold Coe
Feb 6, 2021

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Conspiratiorist posted:

The Baltics are indefensible anyway

Wow I bet they think you're a real peach too

Dr. Jerrold Coe
Feb 6, 2021

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Just listened to an IRL liberal talk about China's "genocide" and how we let them get away with it and these Olympics are so corrupt (as opposed to usual)

Dr. Jerrold Coe
Feb 6, 2021

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my bony fealty posted:

did you ask them what we should do about the genocide

do they think we should invade Xinjiang

Ain't touching it with a 10 foot pole

Dr. Jerrold Coe
Feb 6, 2021

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I'll say it again Americans are the most provincial and propagandized people on this stupid planet, especially the ones who think they're sophisticated politics knowers

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Dr. Jerrold Coe
Feb 6, 2021

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spacemang_spliff posted:

Funny, the Republicans at the NFL forum I read said the same thing.

Hmmmmm are they brothers???

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