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A full article: https://www.haaretz.com/middle-east-news/1.821369 quote:Saudi Arabia's foreign minister accused the Lebanese militant group Hezbollah on Monday of firing a missile at the capital Riyadh on Saturday, under the orders of Iran. Foreign Minister Adel bin Ahmed told CNN Monday that Saudi Arabia considers the attack an act of war by Iran.
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Office Pig posted:I wasn't kidding when I said it was basically the same thing. That said, it is a little clickbait-y for what's actually happening and BIG HEADLINE probably has the right of it. Yeah I ended up finding it in the Arabic site heh
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Lol at Trump just trying to sell more weapons systems.
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The real question is is what if anything KSA does in response.
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Count Roland posted:The real question is is what if anything KSA does in response. They should bomb Qatar, obviously.
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Nov 6, 2017 22:27
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Welp SA just blocked all of Yemen's ports. A great way to start this thread off yup.
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Count Roland posted:The real question is is what if anything KSA does in response. They're going to let literally zero food and medical supplies into Yemen instead of a trickle and wait for their little war to resolve itself.
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Shageletic posted:Welp SA just blocked all of Yemen's ports. BIG HEADLINE posted:It's going to be neither. Saudi Arabia is trying to distract everyone from its internal 'issues' right now, and Israel's being Israel and trying to make it worse because if there's anything they enjoy, it's Arabs killing other Arabs.
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El Disco posted:They're going to let literally zero food and medical supplies into Yemen instead of a trickle and wait for their little war to resolve itself. So more of what they've been doing for years?
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Count Roland posted:So more of what they've been doing for years? This.
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Count Roland posted:So more of what they've been doing for years? Its a step up from before quote:DUBAI (Reuters) - The Saudi-led military coalition fighting against the Houthi movement in Yemen said on Monday it would close all air, land and sea ports to the Arabian Peninsula country to stem the flow of arms to the Houthis from Iran. https://www.reuters.com/article/us-saudi-missiles-yemen/saudi-led-forces-close-air-sea-and-land-access-to-yemen-idUSKBN1D60I8
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Unless this Israeli paper is exagerrrating something then holy poo poo:- https://twitter.com/natemcdermott/status/927641310634434562
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Haven't seen any other outlet reporting on it
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Al-Saqr posted:Unless this Israeli paper is exagerrrating something then holy poo poo:- This was already posted earlier
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you guys are arzying it was the foriegn minister just being saud-like no military moves are taking place, embassies and airports are still open. It's just rhetorical. ass struggle fucked around with this message at 22:51 on Nov 6, 2017 |
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Here is the same thing from an actual news source:- https://www.reuters.com/article/us-lebanon-politics-saudi/saudi-arabia-says-lebanon-has-declared-war-on-it-idUSKBN1D62NQ What does this even mean? The war in Yemen still isn't done, unless this means like a rhetorical general statement of intent or something. I'm going to put this in the category of just all talk, what might actually happen is a big escalation in yemen, but essentially there's no way they'll actually defeat the houthis unless they invade the north with foot soldiers.
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Is it possible this is a statement from the Saudis intended to intimidate the Lebanese government to do something about Hizbullah or to do whatever else it is the Saudis want, similar to what happened with Qatar?
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quote:"It was an Iranian missile, launched by Hezbollah, from territory occupied by the Houthis in Yemen," al-Jubeir told CNN. Jane's thinks they're probably pre-war stock modified by the Yemenis themselves http://www.janes.com/images/assets/330/72330/Yemeni_rebels_enhance_ballistic_missile_campaign.pdf quote:The Burkan-2 appears to use a new type of warhead section that is locally fabricated. Both Iran
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*Update* Wooops this might have been a mistake by reuters, they may have mixed up turki bin abdullah and turki bin faisal, very different in terms of scale. This might be dubious news. Al-Saqr fucked around with this message at 23:03 on Nov 6, 2017 |
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I'd be curious to hear from anyone familiar with the region who can comment on how the Saudi war in Yemen is perceived. It comes off like a pretty embarrassing disaster in which a country with a very expensive array of military toys repeatedly fails to defeat a poor insurgency in its own backyard. Do other countries in the region actually fear the prospect of a military confrontation with the Saudis or are they more concerned about the soft power resources that the Kingdom can wield?
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Helsing posted:I'd be curious to hear from anyone familiar with the region who can comment on how the Saudi war in Yemen is perceived. It comes off like a pretty embarrassing disaster in which a country with a very expensive array of military toys repeatedly fails to defeat a poor insurgency in its own backyard. Do other countries in the region actually fear the prospect of a military confrontation with the Saudis or are they more concerned about the soft power resources that the Kingdom can wield? I'm not in the region, but if we're being fair powerful countries with expensive militaries fail to defeat poor insurgencies all the time, though doing so right on your border does make it worse. Even then though, Russia lost to Chechnya in the first war, and the Soviet Union bordered Afghanistan. Fully defeating a sufficiently motivated enemy is just really hard when you're fighting a war of choice, because the enemy is a lot more willing to incur losses than you are. It's embarrassing, but this doesn't mean Saudi Arabia is necessarily a total paper tiger (though I wouldn't like their chances in a real regional war either tbh). Their alliance with the US does more to deter aggression than anything though.
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How ineffectual is the rest of the royal family that a that a prince like MBS managed to secure power?
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Elyv posted:Is it possible this is a statement from the Saudis intended to intimidate the Lebanese government to do something about Hizbullah or to do whatever else it is the Saudis want, similar to what happened with Qatar? I was dubious of this yesterday, despite the circumstances of Hariri's resignation, but not really anymore. Between Yemen, Qatar, and this I don't know what credibility MBS thinks he has internationally. (I guess it doesn't matter...)
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Bahrain orders all citizens to leave Lebanon immediately. http://www.foxnews.com/world/2017/11/05/bahrain-orders-citizens-to-leave-lebanon.html
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Can't wait to see saudi arabia occupied by some nice iranian chaps
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The Saudis can't win a war in Yemen much less Lebanon, or are they just going to covertly back the Israelis? That war stalemated too, and that was before an entire generation of Israeli soldiers first combat experience was preteens with rocks.
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Aurubin posted:How ineffectual is the rest of the royal family that a that a prince like MBS managed to secure power? Well for reference one of the Princes just arrested, Alwaleed bin Talal, once called a Forbes Magazine editor in tears to complain that they were underreporting how rich he was on their annual billionaires list.
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https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/927673257230327808
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there's something very comradely about the fact that Saudis get to suffer donald trump just as much as America does.
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Aurubin posted:The Saudis can't win a war in Yemen much less Lebanon, or are they just going to covertly back the Israelis? That war stalemated too, and that was before an entire generation of Israeli soldiers first combat experience was preteens with rocks. as i and probaly others have said. why should the saudie royal family care. its just conscripts and client state soldiers dying. worse comes to worse some of their bastards and seventh born sons die when they order a charge into a minefield. Squalid posted:Well for reference one of the Princes just arrested, Alwaleed bin Talal, once called a Forbes Magazine editor in tears to complain that they were underreporting how rich he was on their annual billionaires list. so whats the chances of him already being dead in some black site somewhere. because i feel like most of the people arrested are either already dead or about to be, maybe after some weird show trial. Dapper_Swindler fucked around with this message at 00:30 on Nov 7, 2017 |
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I think most trials in the KSA are probably of the "show" variety. What happens to those arrested probably depends on who has control over the judiciary right now. I expect there will be trials because there were arrests, but a few timely "suicides" might crop up for anyone they really don't want around.
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I wonder how much of this was planned around that loving orb.
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Count Roland posted:I wonder how much of this was planned around that loving
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Aurubin posted:How ineffectual is the rest of the royal family that a that a prince like MBS managed to secure power? Option 1: Have to give a gently caress about politics in the Middle East and put your life on the line Option 2: Life as a billionaire playboy
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So...apparently Saudi Arabia is bombing its own embassy in Yemen. Is this bad or really bad?
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Lote posted:So...apparently Saudi Arabia is bombing its own embassy in Yemen. Is this bad or really bad? source?
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Lote posted:So...apparently Saudi Arabia is bombing its own embassy in Yemen. Is this bad or really bad? It's impossible that there's an actual functioning embassy in Sanaa at this point lol they must've just bombed the building itself.
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https://twitter.com/AhmadAlgohbary/status/927589345267249152 Referring to this I think.
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rear end struggle posted:source? Edit: I don’t know enough about the foreign politics in the Middle East right now to form an opinion about how dumb the Trump plan for the Middle East is. I assume this is bad. On a scale of smoldering proxy war to all out Middle East war with Israel running around with a hand grenade ala Anchorman, how bad is it? Lote fucked around with this message at 01:30 on Nov 7, 2017 |
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Lote posted:Edit: I don’t know enough about the foreign politics in the Middle East right now to form an opinion about how dumb the Trump plan for the Middle East is. I assume this is bad. On a scale of smoldering proxy war to all out Middle East war with Israel running around with a hand grenade ala Anchorman, how bad is it? Nobody knows what the plan is, except that Trump and Saudi Arabia and Israel get along famously, and they all loving hate Iran.
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