Let's Kill Even More Nazis In Wolfenstein II: The New Colossus

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Night10194: Feb 13, 2012; We'll start,
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I just noticed, that one nazi in the intro doesn't have an accent when he switches to English.

That's kinda neat.

# ¿ Nov 29, 2017 04:11

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# ¿ May 19, 2024 22:35

Night10194: Feb 13, 2012; We'll start,
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Rigged Death Trap posted:

If anyone gets offended at the game because of the ad and its treatment of nazis

Boy
I cant even begin to explain how the gently caress a person can think that

I like the interview where they ask the head of marketing of Bethesda if he thinks this game might be kicking a political hornet's nest, and he goes 'Yeah, but the nest is full of Nazis, and gently caress those guys.'

# ¿ Nov 29, 2017 19:33

Night10194: Feb 13, 2012; We'll start,
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When did you LP Infinite Warfare?

I forgot that game existed.

# ¿ Dec 2, 2017 03:45

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Lazyfire posted:

BJ is awesome.

One thing the new Wolf pulls off is making it feel like the enemy is a real threat with a lot of real power to throw around while still emphasizing that you're achieving stuff by being a brutal nazi-murderer.

# ¿ Dec 2, 2017 18:04

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Cythereal posted:

BJ's developing a real talent for not finishing the job. Failed to kill her when he had the chance, failed to blow up the Nazi sky cruiser when he was on board.

The reason he failed to kill her was because a giant robot threw her over a cliffside.

# ¿ Dec 3, 2017 14:44

Night10194: Feb 13, 2012; We'll start,
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I love the floral Kreisau 'uniform'.

# ¿ Dec 6, 2017 15:14

Night10194: Feb 13, 2012; We'll start,
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I remember a review of Velvet Assassin that was like "Man, they're nazis, we know they're bad, you don't have to make up the SS giving a madman control of a battalion of convicted rapists and murderers to let loose on occupied peoples so you can make them seem worse."

Except you know, Oskar Dirlewanger was completely real, and they did exactly that. Any time someone thinks they're exaggerating about the Nazis, they're usually not.

# ¿ Dec 12, 2017 00:57

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GunnerJ posted:

IIRC this was a guy so bad even the SS was like "what the gently caress, dude" and kicked him out of the clubhouse.

They may've considered him distasteful but he stayed in command and kept getting medals and participating in mass slaughters until he went into hiding in 45, was captured, and was probably beaten to death by his guards in a POW camp.

# ¿ Dec 12, 2017 03:31

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Gorilla Salad posted:

Maybe I missed it, but how did the resistance get to and from the state building if everything near ground level was lethally radioactive?

They weren't worried about the Nazis shooting down their choppers, they were worried Grace's people would shoot down their choppers (assuming them to be Nazis) unless they got someone to make contact and tell them the choppers were Kreisau.

E: I was confused about that when I played for myself, too, but it makes sense now.

# ¿ Dec 14, 2017 03:30

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Poil posted:

How did the resistance even manage to hide in such an obvious location anyway? If even one nazi commander was smart enough to check it

Wyatt addressed this in game 1: "The one good thing about Nazis is, they really are that stupid."

# ¿ Dec 15, 2017 00:10

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Chillgamesh posted:

The "white-rear end fascist pigs" line from BJ was obviously him trying on Grace's shoes before deciding they don't fit and it was hilarious.

BJ's fundamental decency despite being a kill machine is one of the best parts of his character.

# ¿ Dec 15, 2017 14:49

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Chillgamesh posted:

I could honestly imagine him as a Mr. Rogers-type, if it weren't for all the goddamn Nazis what need killin'

The main thing he dreams of is a world where none of what he does is necessary and he can just be happy raising a family. He is an FPS protagonist who dearly, dearly wishes there was no FPS.

There is, though, so lotta things you can do with a hatchet and a nazi.

# ¿ Dec 15, 2017 16:48

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Donkringel posted:

What happened with the Holocaust in this series? Is that ever addressed?

It went through. They're still killing everyone they can get hold of.

# ¿ Dec 16, 2017 20:11

Night10194: Feb 13, 2012; We'll start,
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BJ, especially, has always been clear to everyone he's a champion, not a leader. He can lead a squad or make a speech sometimes, but he himself doesn't even want to be the guy making plans and recognizes he's not great at it, too.

# ¿ Dec 18, 2017 23:05

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GunnerJ posted:

Well, I'm asking whether the scene was just supposed to be about Engels personally being stupid. I take it as given that she is even if there's more to it than that.

Multiple nazis comment on how Aryan BJ looks.

# ¿ Dec 19, 2017 14:54

Night10194: Feb 13, 2012; We'll start,
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I like the touch that Max actually has quite a few talents, he just has speech problems and a little developmental difficulty.

I think the paint jobs on the choppers are meant to be his. :3:

# ¿ Dec 20, 2017 05:07

Night10194: Feb 13, 2012; We'll start,
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Also note: The wanted poster refuses to admit BJ has blonde hair, calling it 'light red brown'.

# ¿ Dec 20, 2017 06:49

Night10194: Feb 13, 2012; We'll start,
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The next part is one of my favorite parts in the game.

# ¿ Dec 22, 2017 04:09

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berryjon posted:

And this is what raises Wolfenstein above all the other shooters out there.

The story. And BJ being BJ.

I bought the first game because I was like 'Man slide-tackling nazis while firing two automatic shotguns looks rad' and I instead stuck around for 'slide tackling nazis while firing two automatic shotguns while playing as a bunch of believable, if crazy, people stuck in a lovely situation is even better'

# ¿ Dec 22, 2017 06:44

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Donkringel posted:

Why did they all run? They didnt know Bj had a nuke... or doea Terror Billy warrant an evac to Venus?

"BJ has decided to kill you." is one of few situations where "I would not like to be on the same planet anymore." is a perfectly reasonable response.

# ¿ Dec 22, 2017 23:36

Night10194: Feb 13, 2012; We'll start,
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Also the Ausmerzer has a significant automated defense system that would make it hard for him to destroy it with its own weapons, and he didn't exactly bring a nuclear explosive or anything else with him to scuttle it with.

# ¿ Dec 25, 2017 06:06

Night10194: Feb 13, 2012; We'll start,
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I missed how rocking the courtroom fight background music is because I was so busy trying not to die the first time I was in there.

# ¿ Dec 27, 2017 03:01

Night10194: Feb 13, 2012; We'll start,
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It's an intentional plot point that the Nazis are generally wrong as hell about any of the underlying principles of the Da'at Yichud stuff they stole, have never really managed to figure it out, and probably never will. Their various iterations on it came because Deathshead had enough people who were good enough engineers to replicate and iterate a little from the designs even if they couldn't understand why it worked, exactly; I mean he's spouting off comically wrong bullshit about phrenology and racially stunted biology while you're fighting your way to him in TNO, for gently caress's sake. Him and his whole lab full of 'get the base idea wrong but can produce a working laser cannon' nazis dying in the end of TNO was a big deal for exactly that reason.

# ¿ Dec 29, 2017 21:46

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Really Pants posted:

His German was godawful in The Old Blood, but he has had almost two decades to...learn by osmosis I guess

He speaks it badly and with an accent, but it's pretty clear he understands it fine.

# ¿ Dec 31, 2017 15:36

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Coco13 posted:

Something I think is pretty brilliant in this level is how in most video games, when you hear your wife under gunfire or the escape vehicle is stuck, that generally becomes the next objective. Here, that's purely world building stuff going on in the background.

If Anya says she's good, BJ trusts she's good because he trusts her.

# ¿ Jan 17, 2018 14:39

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Tempest_56 posted:

I really like that - it's sensible, too. Through the whole first game and the first couple acts of this one I kept expecting them to kill Anya off for cheap drama. It's been a wonderful surprise that instead she's a massive badass who's still running commando operations while in her late second trimester.

God help any Nazis left when those kids get old enough to hold a hatchet.

It's also foreshadowed by her talking to Caroline about training to be a combat operative in game 1, as well as the diary about her wide array of more covert serial-killer style nazi murdering. Anya and BJ are both exceptionally good killers.

# ¿ Jan 17, 2018 21:23

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Lazyfire posted:

So are demons from hell and whatever the enemies in Commander Keen are. BJ is apparently the patriarch of a very extensive line of video game heroes.

Wait, BJ is Doom Marine's ancestor?

# ¿ Jan 18, 2018 03:39

Night10194: Feb 13, 2012; We'll start,
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It'll kill more nazis, so that sounds just fine.

# ¿ Jan 18, 2018 15:02

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tarbrush posted:

And then just randomly invited a bunch of poorly vetted American actors to join them

A man who looks like a walrus and who was just out for milkshakes? What threat could he be?

# ¿ Jan 18, 2018 16:37

Night10194: Feb 13, 2012; We'll start,
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I missed his finished mural my first time through. It's amazing.

# ¿ Jan 26, 2018 05:59

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I adore that he thinks of this movie as his great masterwork as an artist and forces people to claim he painted the great works from history.

# ¿ Jan 28, 2018 18:37

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Kopijeger posted:

Even funnier: back in the first game she did very little action stuff, being mostly mission control and doing intelligence work for the Kreisau circle. Somehow she becomes a more powerful fighter when she should become less physically capable.

They did mention she was training for a combat role all through the first game and she's an experienced assassin already, from her serial killing.

# ¿ Mar 24, 2018 00:25

Night10194: Feb 13, 2012; We'll start,
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Apparently that band saved a studio member from being mugged and they felt they owed them, or so I've heard.

# ¿ Mar 28, 2018 13:23

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# ¿ May 19, 2024 22:35

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sleepy.eyes posted:

I have to ask, what's with Anya stripping all of a sudden?

Her clothes were on fire.

# ¿ Mar 29, 2018 05:29

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