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Sep 11, 2001




LegoPirateNinja posted:

It's like when a kid gets beaten by his Dad and grows up to be a domestic abuser himself, but for an entire culture.

the children of survivors were found to have more ptsd than the actual camp prisoners or something like that

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Sep 11, 2001




Lmao yesterdays african migrant deal just got torn up by bibi cause his party said it rewarded them.

Back to the camps, fellows.

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Sep 11, 2001




so wait how are there 1700 settlers in al asqa and all of isreal not on fire right now?

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Sep 11, 2001




judicious war crimes

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Sep 11, 2001




rocks can kill!

*dead rock throwing children shot 500m from barrier*

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Sep 11, 2001




the article headline says killed when you click through. weird

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Sep 11, 2001




america is very dumb and evil

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Sep 11, 2001




paul_soccer10 posted:

Reminder that the last several times the IDF tried to fight anything resembling a real military they got smoked

all of southern Lebanon is tunnels and anti tank mines

*launches ground invasion*

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Sep 11, 2001




what does that look like though? pushing them into egypt and jordan with tanks? israel profits from the occupation theyd have to get more africans to do their jobs for them who they hate even more than the arabs

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Sep 11, 2001




the lesson of ww2 was be hitler before the other guy.

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Sep 11, 2001




Percelus posted:

seriously why is norman finklestein like the only publicly outspoken child of holocaust survivors to point poo poo like this out

https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/descendants-of-holocaust-survivors-have-altered-stress-hormones/

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Sep 11, 2001




https://images.haarets.co.il/image/...30.29953562.png

birthright founder giving protesting new yorkers the finger outside his fundraising dinner

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Sep 11, 2001




http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/ct-israel-palestinian-protesters-shot-20180428-story.html

good article on the amputees that israel decided to create.

exit wounds the size of fists from these sniper rounds.

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Sep 11, 2001




nother couple dozen people wounded with live fire today, nyt goes with "high winds prevent gazans from attacking israel with kites"

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Sep 11, 2001





hamas training camps is the official excuse

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Sep 11, 2001




lollontee posted:

well yeah, the whole point of moving up the schedule was to provide official US Government sanction for the slaughter.

yeah it keeps the phrase march of return below the fold in news articles its deffo intentional

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Sep 11, 2001




idk how im supposed to feel bad about swastikas here looking at six weeks of massacres and a decade of mass imprisonment, bombings, and privation

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Sep 11, 2001





hmmm

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Sep 11, 2001




its funny how people are mad about there being less people when people hate people

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Sep 11, 2001




if palestine valued life theyd starve to death quietly

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Sep 11, 2001




leiberman is probably not the worst israeli but hes on the short list

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Sep 11, 2001




theres an old lf gif of the star spinning like a blender sucking the white and blue in revealing blood red and slowing into a swastika

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Sep 11, 2001




world shoulda just had it out after VJ day and before america could restock with nukes. just balls to the walls duking it out with stalin and mao and fdr's zombie corpse until nobody but amazonian tribesmen were alive.

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Sep 11, 2001




turkey isnt one to talk imo but i support their bad dictators sentiments

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Sep 11, 2001




Hes an armenian genocide denier too

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Sep 11, 2001




sounds like opening rafah is part of a stealth israeli-hamas truce than a kind thing sisi thought up if you read the article

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Sep 11, 2001




its tied to hamas promising not to protest or sap the wall which to me sounds like israel cut the deal and told sisi to honor it but im just some dumbass gawking at the horror since cast lead

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Sep 11, 2001




ireland has no gay marriage or abortion still right?

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Sep 11, 2001




Darkman Fanpage posted:

israels desperately wishes its people would gently caress more but like every modern western nation they've fallen into the demographics trap where having more kids is inconvenient to one's lifestyle meanwhile the impoverished palestinians have more children due the cheapness of life so israel is in this position where they fear they'll be overwhelmed.

afaik they just have ultras in the settlements breeding for god to mitigate that demographic issue.
relative of my wife lives there in that lifestyle and has 5 kids in 7 years and more coming.

problem is now super religious settlers are a growing unstoppable political force

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Sep 11, 2001




Pener Kropoopkin posted:

Don't they also refuse military service?

big time

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Sep 11, 2001




Main Paineframe posted:

this is the first time in years anyone's been injured by a Palestinian rocket

they gonna kill 10k people

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Sep 11, 2001




some knesset member said she wants to occupy gaza and de-hamasify it lol

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Sep 11, 2001




Main Paineframe posted:

time for a bit of a gear change: i feel like talkin about get refusal

I've mentioned this before, but there is no secular civil marriage in Israel. only religious marriages performed by state-recognized religious organizations are recognized as marriages in Israel. and not all religious dominations have official state-recognized organizations in Israel.

the important part for this subject is that only one Jewish denomination is officially recognized by Israel: Orthodox Judaism, as interpreted by the Israeli Chief Rabbinate. if you're a Reform Jew, you literally can't get married in Israel unless you get an official Orthodox conversion carried out by a Rabbinate-approved Orthodox rabbi, and then hold an observant Orthodox ceremony which rigidly follows Orthodox rules and requirements. the rabbinate is pretty strict, so you can't really fudge it

okay, so that was all backstory. now we come to the problem: since Israel doesn't have civil marriage, it doesn't have civil divorce either. in Orthodox Judaism, only the husband can initiate a divorce (by providing a divorce document known as a "get"). there is no other way to terminate a properly-performed strictly Orthodox marriage, so according to Orthodox Jewish law, it is literally impossible to end the marriage without the husband's active cooperation. in other words, a husband who is inclined to do so can forcibly keep a woman in a marriage against her will, whether to demand favorable divorce conditions or just to torment her. in most countries, this doesn't matter as much because they have their own civil divorce processes where the legal marriage can be terminated regardless of religious status, but Israel doesn't have that, so the religious conditions essentially have legal force

a woman who's stuck in this situation can petition her case to a rabbinical court to ask them to order the husband to grant divorce, but the rabbinical authorities can't actually terminate the marriage either. they can't even really push the husband too hard, since Orthodox law dictates that forcing the man to offer a divorce invalidates that divorce. all they can do is call down social pressure by publicly declaring the husband to be a big jerk who other Orthodox Jews should avoid and be mean to. However, others are under no obligation to obey those public-shaming rulings, so they're a poor substitute for actual divorce, as shown when a MK recently invited someone under a public-shaming ruling to the Knesset.

https://www.timesofisrael.com/mk-invites-divorce-refuser-to-knesset-female-lawmakers-boycott-his-speech/


in Israel, the rabbinical courts do have a little extra recourse: despite being purely religious entities with no relation to the actual judicial system, they have the legal authority to jail people who refuse to comply with certain rabbinical court rulings, such as divorce rulings. even that, though, isn't a substitute for actual divorce. just ask Zvia Gordesky, who's been waiting for divorce for 17 years

https://www.timesofisrael.com/refused-a-divorce-for-17-years-hunger-striker-takes-fight-to-knesset/

lmao at the dude who beat his wife to late term miscarriage but only did time for contempt of religious court

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Sep 11, 2001




Pener Kropoopkin posted:

what kind of monsters would almost hurt a child in that general area with indirect fire weapons?

no but you see israel isnt using its kids to protest war crimes thereby making them fair targets for killing. they are merely peaceably raising them to become soldiers with loose ROE and no oversight

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Sep 11, 2001




bloomberg reporting that trump will officially recognize the golan as israeli territory at some point in the first term.

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Sep 11, 2001




Office Pig posted:

what wait a minute what is this

its an op ed but with sources
https://www.bloomberg.com/amp/view/articles/2018-05-30/israel-s-golan-annexation-deserves-u-s-recognition

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Sep 11, 2001




I think the friends of israel day march is coming up soon in nyc, its usually in june. I wonder if theres any protests this year. Normally its just a sea of racist families

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Sep 11, 2001




there were a couple dudes reported to have fired guns but any one who cares is evil

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Sep 11, 2001




trump is planning to subordinate the jerusalem consulate to the us embassy, cutting for the first time direct contact between palestinians and the state dept and forcing them to go through the hostile intermediary of the ambassador to israel.

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Sep 11, 2001




ate poo poo on live tv posted:

if only the previous 6 administrations had actually given a poo poo about the Palestinians instead of pretending to give a poo poo. Any one of them could have unilaterally established a Palestinian embassy and this dumbass intermediary wouldn’t exist.

its the same system as hong kong

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