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He doesn't even make references most of the time, it's like, here's a list of shows and a wikipedia article on them. It's all the most accessible stuff too, most of it was popular enough to be considered pop culture but it's all presented as stuff that only REAL NERDS will remember.
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So this is basically just a compendium of better authors/substance, with a sprinkling of context. Huh. Maybe it will work out for the best and people will read the source material and discard this loving tripe.
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I thought of a fun take on the idea for a book, you could still have a (much better written) 80s nostalgia wankfest in the same dystopia plot, but have way more fun with it by taking properties from that time that never got off the ground, out of alpha, more than a few episodes, only book instead of the planned five, etc. Then act as if those properties were the dominant ones that succeeded, and flesh out an entire weird entertainment alt where this 80s stuff developed into the hosed future he lives in, allowing you to do a lot more with it in a story while still having 'recognizable' properties littered around.
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Unpopular opinion for this thread: Spielberg is a good director, and he never stopped being a good director. He's never made a single film I wasn't entertained by (yes that includes whatever movie you're about to say). The source material is utter trash but so was the source material for Jaws. However I will admit that in this case, unlike with Jaws, the fundamental concept is pretty much utter trash so.....
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Cnut the Great posted:Spielberg is a good director, and he never stopped being a good director. He's never made a single film I wasn't entertained by Weak troll 1/10
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Blue Train posted:Weak troll 1/10 It's true. I think Steven Spielberg, the acclaimed director still widely considered to be one of the greatest working today, is a good filmmaker who consistently makes solid, enjoyable movies. I understand this may be too much for GBS to handle, and I'm sensitive to that fact. e: I even liked War Horse. It was a nice, heartwarming little movie.
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I can't think of an out-and-out bad Spielberg film but War Horse or the last Indiana Jones movies are both pretty weak. I don't really disagree with you broadly, though.
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Spielberg is a little saccharine for my taste but hell that''s always been true. That was true when he made American Graffiti ten million years ago.
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lemon-lyme disease posted:Time passed and it didn’t do as well on a re-read. It’s still a little perplexing to me how HATED it is though. I’ve read far, far worse. I haven't read RP1 but judging by the copious excerpts posted here it's a worse example of writing than the Brian Herbert / Kevin J Anderson Dune books. Which is a loving accomplishment. I got handed the first three of those by a dumb friend and managed to plow through them. A couple of times I started literally laughing out loud at how terrible and dumb they were. But every single piece of RP1 looks equally as bad as the worst bits of those books. Like, I don't know what kind of books you're reading you're read far, far worse.
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Jim Barris posted:I can't think of an out-and-out bad Spielberg film but War Horse or the last Indiana Jones movies are both pretty weak. I don't really disagree with you broadly, though. Whatever else can be said, Adventures of Tin Tin was a fantastic film. So was Lincoln. Both made in the last seven years.
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Jim Barris posted:Spielberg is a little saccharine for my taste but hell that''s always been true. That was true when he made American Graffiti ten million years ago. That was Coppola, you fool.
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Cnut the Great posted:That was Coppola, you fool.
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mind the walrus posted:It speaks to the general insipidity of references as a substitute for narrative weight via an insanely particular example no one in their right mind would think of as a proper basis for a cultural nexus. Make it Robocop 2 instead of Robocop though. i'll make the website edit: i just re-remembered the line about how "I listened to music. All the music. Rock, metal, punk, folk, country. All of it." and got super loving angry about this drat book all over again the milk machine fucked around with this message at 02:51 on Dec 14, 2017 |
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Blue Train posted:Weak troll 1/10
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Ernest Clien is like the Neil Breen of nerds. I watched all the shows and listened to all the music. I am a pro at all video games. I am a super elite hacker. I graduated at the top of my class in the air force academy.
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Jim Barris posted:I can't think of an out-and-out bad Spielberg film but War Horse or the last Indiana Jones movies are both pretty weak. I don't really disagree with you broadly, though. I actually found War Horse to be quite good. I think where it stumbles is in the progression of time, as there is a huge jump from the opening stage of the war in 1914 to 1918 that is only apparent if you know your history and you read the time card. I mean, Tom Hiddleston gets shot, then the two Germans run away and are executed a day later, and then the horse spends about a week with the french girl, and then the Germans get the horse back. All in 1914-1915. And then it's suddenly 1918 and the Second Battle of the Somme is kicking off. It's whiplash, even if that section of the film is probably the best.
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mind the walrus posted:Nah Spielberg gets a ton of poo poo but I've never fully understood why. Yeah he's mawkish and when that fails it fails hard, but he's rarely been out-and-out abysmal and even his failures tend to be more entertaining than a lot of other stuff I see clogging up the release schedule. He's a great director of entertaining movies. What some critics want is an auteur, and Spielberg veers in and out of that territory. There are some directors that made complete bombs and still get respect because there's that vision. Those guys get a lot of slack cut for them. A spielberg movie like Crystal Skull, the only vision you see is the $$$$. Then you have A.I. which should be his most auteur movie (director, producer, writer, complete control) but it's maudlin schlock and not very good either. And even in his best movies there's a lot of really conventional choices and great execution. So all in all he deserves his title of most commercially successful director of all time, but placing him on the list of greatest artistic directors is tricky. "Most artistic director of blockbusters" maybe? It's entirely possible that ready player one the movie will be somewhat entertaining -- barfing out references works better when it's show not tell at least. But I suspect that it's gonna be kinda crappy.
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i am sure the movie will be fine. it just looks so loving cringy.
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Klyith posted:I got handed the first three of those by a dumb friend and managed to plow through them. A couple of times I started literally laughing out loud at how terrible and dumb they were. But every single piece of RP1 looks equally as bad as the worst bits of those books. Like, I don't know what kind of books you're reading you're read far, far worse. I’ve read a lot of trash fantasy/sci-fi. The kind of stuff that ends up in used bookstores in the literal middle of nowhere isn’t usually great, as it turns out. I can’t think of any titles off the top of my head, but that’s maybe part of the point. Being memorable in a bad way is better than “what was the name of that book with a giant worm destroying London or a castle or something on the cover? NO NOT DUNE GUYS” in my opinion.
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Klyith posted:It's entirely possible that ready player one the movie will be somewhat entertaining -- barfing out references works better when it's show not tell at least. But I suspect that it's gonna be kinda crappy. It's gonna date really really badly too if they're gonna chase the current pop-culture zeitgeist. In the trailer there's a scene with Tracer from Overwatch, which yeah - super-popular right now - but someone mentioned that in the same scene there's also a character from BattleBorn - a similar game that was never popular to start with, and in the time between that scene being rendered and now, is effectively dead already.
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Klyith posted:He's a great director of entertaining movies. What some critics want is an auteur, and Spielberg veers in and out of that territory. There are some directors that made complete bombs and still get respect because there's that vision. Those guys get a lot of slack cut for them. A spielberg movie like Crystal Skull, the only vision you see is the $$$$. Then you have A.I. which should be his most auteur movie (director, producer, writer, complete control) but it's maudlin schlock and not very good either. And even in his best movies there's a lot of really conventional choices and great execution.
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Was this guy in a hurry to write this books it reads like he's making a shopping list with bits of narrative to string it all together.
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Cnut the Great posted:Whatever else can be said, Adventures of Tin Tin was a fantastic film. a better indiana jones than the fourth indiana jones movie, what the gently caress was the deal with that
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Adventures of Tin Tin also had the best use of 3d I have seen. It's use of depth during the action scene throughout the city looked amazing. The Ready Player One movie is almost certain to be better than the book by virtue of most of the references being primarily visual rather than explicated upon at length in the prose of a wiki editor's dating profile 'things I like' list.
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Plus I imagine the people who handle those myriad properties are likely to be grossly, closely, invasively involved with every single character gracing the screen for more than a .5 second background cameo
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The first feature film to be created by a markov text generator
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I wonder how long this book would be without the endless references. Just remove all the references to something and see the overall [structure & placeholder] Then, check to see how long this book would be if Cline actually described things with real words and sentences rather than inane references.
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Slotducks posted:I wonder how long this book would be without the endless references. Wikipedia posted:Teenager Wade Watts lives with his aunt in the "stacks," a poverty-stricken district constructed of trailer homes piled on top of each other. He spends all his spare time logged on to the OASIS as a "gunter" (a portmanteau of "egg hunter"), an avatar under the moniker Parzival, reading Halliday's journal Anorak's Almanac and researching films, songs, and TV series from the 1980s mentioned therein, as well as playing classic video games. One day, he realizes during a fit of boredom that the location of the first key is on the world of his online high school, in a re-creation of the Dungeons & Dragons module Tomb of Horrors. He meets Art3mis, a famous female hunter and blogger who had been exploring the place, but is then able to solve the puzzle first by defeating its adversary Acererak in the video game Joust. He is awarded the Copper Key, and Parzival appears on the "Scoreboard", attracting the entire world's attention.
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I hope the main character and his cronies are repeatedly-killed by a low-polygon quake model covered in dick textures that's manned by some 12-year-old running aimbot and noclip hacks
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Listening to 372 Pages We'll Never Get Back is a fantastic cathartic experience for those who read and hated this book.
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Slotducks posted:Listening to 372 Pages We'll Never Get Back is a fantastic cathartic experience for those who read and hated this book. I'm listening to this and it is indeed great.
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hackbunny posted:a better indiana jones than the fourth indiana jones movie, what the gently caress was the deal with that Crystal Skull was only slightly worse than the Last Crusade. Both perfectly good movies. Temple of Doom is the best one, by the way. Raiders is second. 
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Cnut the Great posted:Crystal Skull was only slightly worse than the Last Crusade. Both perfectly good movies. Temple of Doom is the best one, by the way. Raiders is second. This is some bullshit right here. Temple is terrible. Crystal Skull is goofy fun. Raiders is the perfect Indy movie.
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It's weird to think that for a lot of these properties the first time they're going to be coming to a feature film is as a ten second cameo in someone else's lovely movie. It's weirder to think that the possibility of seeing a Gundam on the big screen for ten seconds is going to bring in hoardes of idiot nerds and make this the best selling movie of all time because people are trash.
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Cnut the Great posted:Crystal Skull was only slightly worse than the Last Crusade. Both perfectly good movies. Temple of Doom is the best one, by the way. Raiders is second.
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Not a surprising review, but a review nonetheless. https://theconcourse.deadspin.com/ready-player-one-finds-the-bleak-limits-of-nostalgia-1797497066
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Rupert Buttermilk posted:https://theconcourse.deadspin.com/ready-player-one-finds-the-bleak-limits-of-nostalgia-1797497066 quote:Maybe that’s the seductive—and to those who embrace it—profound appeal of a story like Ready Player One, built on the bones of hundreds of others: that somehow we can construct a scavenger hunt of narrative human significance from everything we’ve already consumed, something every bit as spiritual and whole as a more rigorous study and embrace of the world as it is. Maybe there is a mechanism by which we can collect enough skill and armament and enchantment to ineffably cohere as flesh and spirit, something more sublime than meat networked and spasming with electricity. That is some primo  right there.
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Rupert Buttermilk posted:Not a surprising review, but a review nonetheless. yeah. nostalgia/references isn't bad in the right doses and or when its clever or well done. but poo poo like RP1 is not that and should be a text book lesson on how not to do reference stuff. its also depressingly reverent of the poo poo.
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It's an Easter Egg GET IT?
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