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bandaid.friend posted:I think it's important Aboriginal Australians are the ones who have the right to set the message on Aboriginal issues, especially considering Australia's history of denying them self-determination. I'm a member of the oppressing class, here, jumping on her for saying something I don't like is joining news corp's dogpile, which is exactly what they want I don't think it's 'jumping on her' to say that her actions didn't succeed in accomplishing the stated aim of the tens of thousands of people assembled. Honestly, the way we're terrified of critiquing anything done by a POC is pretty patronizing. And I'm not talking about her tone or her dress, I'm taking specifically about the words.
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# ? Feb 2, 2018 01:08 |
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# ? May 5, 2024 13:12 |
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Burn this weak rear end thread to the ground
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# ? Feb 2, 2018 01:14 |
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The Peccadillo posted:Burn this weak rear end thread to the ground mods?
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# ? Feb 2, 2018 01:18 |
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JBP posted:I did that stuff for 7 years but now I do something more chill bc it breaks your brain eventually. Fairweather unionist
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# ? Feb 2, 2018 01:25 |
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Sludge Tank posted:Fairweather unionist All blue collar organisers tank eventually. You don't get any sleep due to days of meetings at 5am, 9pm and 1am, plus office poo poo or negotiations. It's also the worst day of someone's life every loving day. Having to put a distressed, mentally broken member in a headlock to prevent them running onto Leakes Rd to die or screaming at a whole shed of grown men that bullied the only black guy at work to near suicide eventually tires you out a bit.
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# ? Feb 2, 2018 01:31 |
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Actually there are some organisers that survive for 10+ years in the same role but they're either a useless husk by then or have gone full Judge Dredd with literally nothing else to live for. e: not to mention the drinking... my god... the drinking... JBP fucked around with this message at 01:40 on Feb 2, 2018 |
# ? Feb 2, 2018 01:38 |
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https://twitter.com/benraue/status/959211121570803713
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# ? Feb 2, 2018 01:43 |
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Sad if true
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# ? Feb 2, 2018 01:52 |
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Batman did so much imperial crime his face rotted off and his butler had to wheel him around in a cart
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# ? Feb 2, 2018 01:54 |
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The Peccadillo posted:Batman did so much imperial crime his face rotted off and his butler had to wheel him around in a cart that latest Dollop episode. I don't know if I can handle this byelection thinking about Syphilitic Batman.
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# ? Feb 2, 2018 02:05 |
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Can someone please post today's David Pope cartoon I am not good with computer.
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# ? Feb 2, 2018 02:14 |
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JBP posted:All blue collar organisers tank eventually. You don't get any sleep due to days of meetings at 5am, 9pm and 1am, plus office poo poo or negotiations. It's also the worst day of someone's life every loving day. Having to put a distressed, mentally broken member in a headlock to prevent them running onto Leakes Rd to die or screaming at a whole shed of grown men that bullied the only black guy at work to near suicide eventually tires you out a bit. Stories like that would probably make a good PR campaign for the union movement in general. If done well it could show people what unions really do and hopefully cut through some of the anti-union bullshit that's out there.
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# ? Feb 2, 2018 02:17 |
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https://mobile.twitter.com/davpope/status/959174015259615232?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet
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# ? Feb 2, 2018 02:18 |
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Van Badham, never right
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# ? Feb 2, 2018 02:29 |
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there's a cool native bird called a wonga wonga but they're not found in melbourne so i guess it doesn't work australian native pigeons are not generally well-known, which is sad because they rule
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# ? Feb 2, 2018 02:31 |
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MysticalMachineGun posted:Van Badham, never right I'm enjoying Discovery, if only because it makes the point that, yes, humans are the villain in everything we do.
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# ? Feb 2, 2018 02:31 |
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Kafka Syrup posted:I'm enjoying Discovery, if only because it makes the point that, yes, humans are the villain in everything we do. I thought the nerd consensus was that Enterprise sucked? I don't know my Star-Trekery well enough I gues..
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# ? Feb 2, 2018 03:31 |
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https://twitter.com/workmanalice/status/958937507567054848
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# ? Feb 2, 2018 03:33 |
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MysticalMachineGun posted:I thought the nerd consensus was that Enterprise sucked? I don't know my Star-Trekery well enough I gues.. I didn't like I, but gigantic trek nerd friends of mine insist that it became excellent in the last season or two. I didn't stick with it that long. As far as post 9/11 era sci fi goes Battlstar Galactic was much better than Enterprise, but probably suffers the opposite issue of becoming weaker as the seasons go on.
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# ? Feb 2, 2018 03:36 |
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MysticalMachineGun posted:I thought the nerd consensus was that Enterprise sucked? I don't know my Star-Trekery well enough I gues.. More or less, although it had a few good ideas and was definitely getting better as it went.
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# ? Feb 2, 2018 03:36 |
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Dunno how 'pol' it is but we are having the ADF and IDF (Israeli Defence Force) visit work on Monday. Could be from Trumbles defence export wank don't know and the boss was not sure either (I should mention he is the GM not owner or sales guy)
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# ? Feb 2, 2018 03:37 |
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https://twitter.com/MitchellToy/status/958888581166067712
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# ? Feb 2, 2018 03:42 |
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lol Turbul has gotten a face to face meeting with Trump. poor bastard
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# ? Feb 2, 2018 03:47 |
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The public speaker who called for violent decolonisation is not "the left being it's own worst enemy". The call to Australia that we should be violently decolonised is good - violence not necessarily (but not excluding) in the physical sense, but rather acting violently in our reaction to colonisation. This form of violence is a valid response to colonisation, which is itself an act of violence. If you're wringing your hands worried "but we actually do need to change the date sooner rather than later!": what are you worried about losing when violent decolonisation enters the discourse (and eventually, reality)? Changing the date is a means, one of many, but the end goal is always going to be: Burn Colonial Australia TTFG Tl;dr: meat pie in a white breadroll = good, land/wage theft by genocide = bad
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# ? Feb 2, 2018 04:01 |
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Weatherill is absolutely styling on Xenophon and (insert name of opposition leader) rn.
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# ? Feb 2, 2018 04:03 |
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asio posted:The public speaker who called for violent decolonisation is not "the left being it's own worst enemy". That’ll not what I meant when I said the left is its own worst enemy. I’m talking about the people hand-wringing over her words.
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# ? Feb 2, 2018 04:06 |
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after a lot of soul-searching i've decided to start a jsa. who's with me?
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# ? Feb 2, 2018 04:13 |
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Self-critique is the only way to develop and learn strategy. Talk about whatever you want and critique whatever you want in the privacy of a dead gay forum imo.
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# ? Feb 2, 2018 04:14 |
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asio posted:The public speaker who called for violent decolonisation is not "the left being it's own worst enemy". lol Starshark posted:That’ll not what I meant when I said the left is its own worst enemy. I’m talking about the people hand-wringing over her words. the left being it's own worst enemy is when people get jumped on for saying "maybe it wasn't a great idea to say that poo poo at that time" and we get stuck arguing about weather we're allowed to discuss the best way of getting a message across We're not hand wringing, we're just pointing out that it was counter-productive. If you want to have a "burn Australia to the ground" rally, go for it, just try and not let it sabotage the "we'd like to celebrate living here and now, can we do it on a day that doesn't mark the start of dispossession and genocide" rally.
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# ? Feb 2, 2018 04:44 |
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Was it counter productive to the speakers goals or yours? Your goals do not align.
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# ? Feb 2, 2018 04:48 |
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Also it's the invasion day rally not the "excuse me sir may we do this another time rally".
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# ? Feb 2, 2018 04:52 |
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The only rally a true leftist follows is Sega Rally
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# ? Feb 2, 2018 04:53 |
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Whitlam posted:Not picking on you specifically, bandaid, but I think this is a huge problem: the idea that there is a single, unified, indigenous voice. There's no such thing. The issues of indigenous people in Karratha are totally different to the issues in, say, Brunswick. Since it's a Commonwealth power, it all gets treated with the same brush, and ultimately nothing gets done (also because it's just plain not a priority, but that isn't the only issue). Abbott already solved this issue, we just have to ignore the inner-city frauds and talk to authentic indigenous folk, especially the ones furthest from Canberra and with the least power to refute any paternalistic horseshit we might want to slug them with
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# ? Feb 2, 2018 05:08 |
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JBP posted:Was it counter productive to the speakers goals or yours? Your goals do not align. Oh maybe, i thought it was a 'change the date' thing, sorry. If we're talking about competing protests then yeah it gets a lot more murky, but I think the same problems remain and the point stands. "Burn Australia" hurts "change the date"
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# ? Feb 2, 2018 05:11 |
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It was the invasion day rally which was the only rally in town.
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# ? Feb 2, 2018 05:16 |
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PSA: http://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-02-02/shopping-centre-car-park-legal-threats-may-be-unenforceable/9384446quote:Lawyers demanding payment from drivers who overstay time limits in shopping centre car parks are operating in a grey area that is unlikely to be upheld in court, a legal expert has said.
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# ? Feb 2, 2018 05:27 |
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Hobo Erotica posted:Oh maybe, i thought it was a 'change the date' thing, sorry. If we're talking about competing protests then yeah it gets a lot more murky, but I think the same problems remain and the point stands. "Burn Australia" hurts "change the date"
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# ? Feb 2, 2018 05:28 |
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No, not decorum, it's a fundamentally different message and point.
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# ? Feb 2, 2018 05:37 |
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Periphery posted:PSA: http://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-02-02/shopping-centre-car-park-legal-threats-may-be-unenforceable/9384446 This is good. The shopping centre I often use has a bunch of other shops, including a cinema, but has a posted 2 hours parking limit. Cue all the people who see a movie, or go shopping and have lunch in the food court, risking getting slapped with bullshit fines.
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# ? Feb 2, 2018 05:58 |
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Robert Doyle inquiry delayed as Melbourne mayor is seriously ill Report into allegations of sexual assault against former Victorian Liberal leader now delayed loff
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