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Expect My Mom
Nov 18, 2013

by Smythe
i dont know a thing about devilman but this is prob the thing i'm most excited for this season.

if we could adopt tv iv rules for netflix shows, where you lead with what episode # you're talking about and spoiler tag mostly everything else, that'd be cool imo


MSPaintClock posted:

When can I start watching it? I need this.
tomorrow baybee

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Expect My Mom
Nov 18, 2013

by Smythe
shoot!!

Expect My Mom
Nov 18, 2013

by Smythe
I'm one episode in and uuuuuhhhhhh

Expect My Mom
Nov 18, 2013

by Smythe
i've only seen two episodes but i feel this show has kinda firmly established itself as a sex comedy with light action/horror rather than full on action/horror so scenes like focusing on Akira watching porn in the AV room or how into his bulge everyone is don't bother me

e: akira and ryo hug a lot, im v. into that tho

Expect My Mom fucked around with this message at 00:42 on Jan 6, 2018

Expect My Mom
Nov 18, 2013

by Smythe
I really enjoyed it! After seen tons of things inspired by Devilman like Shin Megami Tensei and Evangelion, this was very cool to see. This type of story is very In My Interest so yeah i liked it. I totally see what problems people have with the content and pacing too, a subjective show i would say


ninjewtsu posted:

the way taro's dad keeps going back and forth or whether or not he should kill his son was so painful to watch
this was probably my favorite scene. His just, utter inability to do what he knows he should to do in his complete panic and despair was conveyed so well. Like, it was such a human emotion in animation, I empathized with this fakeman so much


LORD OF BOOTY posted:

the whole sequence with Devilman and the mob of people being stoned to death is one of the most genuinely loving beautiful and moving things i have ever seen in an anime

i was worried it was gonna end badly and then the line of people coming up to hug Devilman loving broke me :qq:
this too. it was so cheesy and cute, i loved it

Expect My Mom
Nov 18, 2013

by Smythe
deducing why akira continues to trust ryo outside his super empathetic nature isn't really a puzzle
https://twitter.com/Ianasuka/status/949332797159825408



https://twitter.com/urpaljulie/status/950550587279663113
they're gay

Expect My Mom
Nov 18, 2013

by Smythe

Liver Disaster posted:

Extremely gay, much like all of the devilmans. Devilmen?
it is Powerfully Gay.

The show opens with Ryo saying "Love does not exist. There is no such thing. This is what I thought", a powerful past tense sentence

Akira and Ryo hug, feed each other and say "I need you" to each other throughout.

By the end of the third episode, the two of them have hugged four times.

The first episode is called I Need You.

By the end of the ninth episode, you have watched a two girls in a tense rivalry say "I didn't know I loved you", "I love you!" "I love you too!" and then turn into a spider

the idea of a heterosexual reading of Devilman is laughable to me.

like im not trying to throw hands but saying that Akira is dumb for trusting Ryo reads like......like you've never heard of love before.....

Expect My Mom
Nov 18, 2013

by Smythe
not a single thing you said sounded bad, dude

Expect My Mom
Nov 18, 2013

by Smythe

LORD OF BOOTY posted:

oh don't get me wrong i wouldn't exactly be complaining that hard but I would absolutely do a double-take and rewind or flip back to make sure I didn't just hallucinate that, and generally for crossovers I prefer the "chocolate and peanut butter" ones to the "chocolate and ham" ones

(also: Toriyama must be on my mind for some reason given the examples I came up with, must be my subconscious telling me to catch up on Super)

e: also, like, I get that gay love makes you blind to people's moral flaws, but Ryo literally loving tells Akira straight up that he's not up to anything good, and goes all crazy-eyes and starts acting really hosed up and possessive of Akira. This is generally a point at which most couples would break up and Ryo would go from "~daddy!!~ " to "my bugfuck crazy ex who wants to destroy humanity." like, all this poo poo works perfectly fine in the manga primarily because that scene in the apartment isn't there (IIRC). adding that scene makes Akira a complete dumbass, and not really to the story's benefit- it seems like it's mostly there to hammer the audience over the head with what Ryo's doing in case they're not getting the picture yet.
Love has been responsible for crazier things than letting your boyfriend kickstart the apocalypse and then score the finishing touchdown

e: yeah you got it. miki really should have taken akira aside at some point and told him to :sever:


Tired Moritz posted:

Akira has awful taste in men then
god dont we all

Expect My Mom fucked around with this message at 03:48 on Jan 10, 2018

Expect My Mom
Nov 18, 2013

by Smythe
it's probably Zenon, he has a third vertical eye like that along with two horns

Expect My Mom
Nov 18, 2013

by Smythe

Smoking Crow posted:

The tone is pitch black. You are likely to get hosed by a gay devil
attending a Sabbath will either end with you....

A.) Getting turned into a DevilChad/Stacy

B.) Getting killed by a demon woman

C.) Getting stabbed Ryo

you cant lose

Expect My Mom fucked around with this message at 21:16 on Jan 10, 2018

Expect My Mom
Nov 18, 2013

by Smythe
ryo's english owns and i honestly respect the voice actor for doing so many scenes with it.

like even learning japanese, telling me to go speak it in a booth sounds like a total nightmare, so i love it tbh

Expect My Mom
Nov 18, 2013

by Smythe

DisDisDis posted:

Lady's dual titty happy trails already make it the best thing in the franchise
she has so much hair and it rules

Expect My Mom
Nov 18, 2013

by Smythe
i want yuasa to do Baoh Crybaby next

Expect My Mom
Nov 18, 2013

by Smythe
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mUPHycJQTYY

Expect My Mom
Nov 18, 2013

by Smythe
im def gonna try and check out the older OVA and probably the manga too, a more modern times adaption was really what I needed, I honestly just cant stop thinking about Devilman even tho I finished it days ago. Flawed media rules.

also i've seen small amounts of lupin here and there but this is the thing i saw that made me say Okay, I Should Watch Lupin and it's so dumb that this is what it did it


(from The Blood Spray of Goemon Ishikawa movie)

Expect My Mom
Nov 18, 2013

by Smythe
I knew that a boy turned into a devil and that Last Arc Spoilers Ryo was Satan which is so obvious in context because he's a blond haired blue eyed pretty boy tempting Akira into so much poo poo and also at some point, I forget when, the Netflix credits start putting サタン(Satan) after his voice actor credit

and yeah I've had the Woman Called Fujiko Mine reccomended so constantly, I'll add it to my list in the 2018 Movie Challenge for sure

Expect My Mom
Nov 18, 2013

by Smythe
I do wanna say I really do love End Of Devilman Spoilers Ryo's Satan form. Like it's obviously doing the Miltonian Paradise Lost Lucifer thing of being a moody bishonen, but the genderfludity of it, with longer hair to developed breasts and visible penis and testicles, I rarely see that brought up in Angel designs, much less the Devil themself, I love it.

Expect My Mom fucked around with this message at 02:24 on Jan 12, 2018

Expect My Mom
Nov 18, 2013

by Smythe
Psychic Jennifer

Expect My Mom
Nov 18, 2013

by Smythe
psycho jenny from this scene would probably be good. i'd be very tempted to get it myself if I had Money (god it would also be a very good username/av combo)

https://twitter.com/sciencesaru/status/952742280493809665

Expect My Mom
Nov 18, 2013

by Smythe

AnacondaHL posted:

there are a lot of colors in this gif, making it hard to compress!






whoa, i love it! #2 especially, thank you!

Expect My Mom
Nov 18, 2013

by Smythe
A heterosexual reading of Devilman is still the wildest thing to me

Alan_Shore posted:

I think it's more like

*character becomes their true self, which is both and neither male and/or female, and professes love to a male character*

"God, this is so gay it's great"

Edit: Satan says he/she doesn't believe in love, but he/she does really, just didn't realize it
Intersex people can be gay, dude. The very intro to the show is Ryo saying that Akira made them believe in love

Expect My Mom fucked around with this message at 15:06 on Jan 19, 2018

Expect My Mom
Nov 18, 2013

by Smythe
The gay subtext in Devilman isn't even subtext. It's the text.

The two characters who hug each other, feed each other and tell the other I Need You are gay

Expect My Mom
Nov 18, 2013

by Smythe
this thread made me turn into a devilman, but one of the ones who side with psycho jenny


Expect My Mom
Nov 18, 2013

by Smythe

Sakurazuka posted:

Straights ruin everything
a sharp contrast from Devilman itself, where the gays ruin everything

Expect My Mom
Nov 18, 2013

by Smythe
I mean, yes, you could read it that way, sure.

Or you could read it that being gay is what taught Satan that love was real, that the characters who engage in homosexual relations are the most human and likable and are punished by a mindless mob and uncaring God for doing so, that the cycle will continue regardless and that gay love is as strong or stronger than whatever an absent God wants to happen, no matter now many times They purge the earth, Ryo and Akira will be there doing gay twirly hugs on the dock.

I would say one of the things I like Devilman Crybaby is that it lets the gays be messy. They aren't pure flawless characters, they gently caress up and poo poo gets out of hand because gay people are people and people are fallible and love makes you completely stupid sometimes.

Expect My Mom fucked around with this message at 18:06 on Jan 19, 2018

Expect My Mom
Nov 18, 2013

by Smythe
devilman is a gays only event

Schwarzwald posted:

Miki and other Miki don't tell us anything about their sexuality or their romantic feelings. They say they love one another.
i have read this one million times and i am not one iota closer to comprehending it

Expect My Mom
Nov 18, 2013

by Smythe

Schwarzwald posted:

It is possible to love people you do not have romantic or sexual attraction toward.
if one miki was a boy and the other miki was a girl, would you be playing this card at all

Expect My Mom
Nov 18, 2013

by Smythe
yall won't let queer people have anything huh?

gay people are much like straight people, in that when they think someone is physically or emotionally attractive, they will say i love you to them

it is not a code, or a cryptic puzzle

it just happens like that

Expect My Mom fucked around with this message at 21:55 on Jan 19, 2018

Expect My Mom
Nov 18, 2013

by Smythe

Schwarzwald posted:

I am not taking anything away from you, and I am not trying to provoke a fight.

Please don't do this.
it's too late

this thread has turned me into a devilman

but one of the devilmen who sides with psycho jenny

Expect My Mom
Nov 18, 2013

by Smythe
Psycho Jenny is really cute in Crybaby, she looks really fluffy, and I prefer that over her more terrifying look.

also just conceptually, your emotionally distant mother figure being an ancient demon capable of mass mind control owns.

did you ever notice she has breasts on her back? its cool

Expect My Mom
Nov 18, 2013

by Smythe
im probably the only other person to find that funny, thank you endorph

Expect My Mom
Nov 18, 2013

by Smythe
Is it indeed explicitly spelled out that either of them are homosexual because that's a girl telling another girl she loves her means

Expect My Mom
Nov 18, 2013

by Smythe

Pener Kropoopkin posted:

The insistence that daisuki only has romantic connotations is just wrong, and at this point it feels like an attempt to gaslight people into not making a queer reading.
lmfao

Expect My Mom
Nov 18, 2013

by Smythe

Endorph posted:

okay let's put this down to democracy

quote this post if you think miko and miki are gay

Expect My Mom
Nov 18, 2013

by Smythe
*a guy has anal sex with another man*

*a woman devours men with her breasts*

*miki takes off her bra to subtlety show other miki her new huge honkers*

Expect My Mom
Nov 18, 2013

by Smythe

Endorph posted:

i think hes thinking about akira's big fat hog
same but i think ova Chad Akira is hotter than Crybaby's Chad Akira

anyone else agree?

Expect My Mom
Nov 18, 2013

by Smythe
im purely talking looks. i think ova ryo is hotter too but a lovely twink fits his character way better

Expect My Mom
Nov 18, 2013

by Smythe
just anecdotally, as a bi person, I call myself gay constantly

im the problem with bi erasure

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Expect My Mom
Nov 18, 2013

by Smythe

RME posted:

same, but partly because i feel queer sounds weird outside of more academic conexts
i also use queer if im just trying to describe myself quickly, but i also talk to a lot of Queer Academics so i get it.

also I'm Gay LoL is just a better punchline

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