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Riven is amazing, one of the few mystlikes where the puzzles seem to actually just be part of the world and not arbitrary poo poo where doors are locked with musical puzzles for no reason.
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exquisite tea posted:The original masters of Riven were lost a long time ago so we'll probably never see an HD remake unless the entire game is basically built back up from scratch. A great tragedy as Riven is one of the best adventure games ever made (not an unpopular opinion). I remember its reception not being great so I never played it. I also didn't really care for Myst and wished I got the In The 1st Degree game that had a trailer on the disc, though  I read 3 Myst tie in novels and really enjoyed them.
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Jan 22, 2018 17:14
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Feels Villeneuve posted:Riven is amazing, one of the few mystlikes where the puzzles seem to actually just be part of the world and not arbitrary poo poo where doors are locked with musical puzzles for no reason. Figuring out the D'ni counting system was base 5 before I even understood that concept mathematically made me feel like a freaking genius at age 12.
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Jan 22, 2018 17:19
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exquisite tea posted:Figuring out the D'ni counting system was base 5 before I even understood that concept mathematically made me feel like a freaking genius at age 12. (riven puzzle spoilers) figuring out that the giant rear end grid in the golden dome was a map was that moment for me. the base-5 thing remains one of my favorite game puzzles of all time, because of how much sense it makes in the game world
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Jan 22, 2018 17:20
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Discworld 1 was a fun adventure game though. ... better than Discworld 2.
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Jan 22, 2018 17:27
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exquisite tea posted:The original masters of Riven were lost a long time ago so we'll probably never see an HD remake unless the entire game is basically built back up from scratch. A great tragedy as Riven is one of the best adventure games ever made (not an unpopular opinion). That is a real shame. It really had a great atmosphere of mystery and 'why am I even here' I got the guide book to it and the book started with something like 'We can't explain how or why you'll be doing some of the stuff we tell you to do, but just follow the steps' or similar. Man that game was crazy hard
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Jan 22, 2018 17:28
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I had a strategy guide for Riven which had like five or six different styles of hint guide in it, from vague hints, to a straight up listing of all puzzle solutions, to an actual novella adaptation of the game. They put a shitload of effort into it, it's still one of the best hint guides I've ever read.
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Jan 22, 2018 17:29
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I was too young to figure Riven out and didn't actually own the game but I really loved the setting of that game, I love the premise of a metaphysically broken world that's falling apart.
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Feels Villeneuve posted:I had a strategy guide for Riven which had like five or six different styles of hint guide in it, from vague hints, to a straight up listing of all puzzle solutions, to an actual novella adaptation of the game. They put a shitload of effort into it, it's still one of the best hint guides I've ever read. It may have been the same, it was a long time ago now. It would just say 'Turn the stone to have this symbol @ facing this symbol #' and not tell you how or why, I remember I used it mainly to figure out the language that was in the game.
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Jan 22, 2018 17:32
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Shibawanko posted:Discworld 1 was a fun adventure game though. Discworld 1 had a PS1 version I've thought about picking up. I played the hell out of the demo on the PC Gamer August 95 CD back in the day.
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Jan 22, 2018 17:45
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TheScott2K posted:Discworld 1 had a PS1 version I've thought about picking up. I played the hell out of the demo on the PC Gamer August 95 CD back in the day. yeah i played it on PS1 and it owned hard
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Jan 22, 2018 18:04
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The worst era of 3D graphics isn't the early PS1/Saturn/N64 days, it's the early 360/Unreal Engine 3 days where everything was either brown or looked like it was covered in slime.
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Jan 22, 2018 18:10
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Quake is one of the ugliest games ever made. Just loving awful art direction.
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TheScott2K posted:Discworld 1 had a PS1 version I've thought about picking up. I played the hell out of the demo on the PC Gamer August 95 CD back in the day. Some people don't like it because it's obtuse but there's a certain logic to a lot of the puzzles and it just looks great. Some items are simply useless. Feels Villeneuve posted:The worst era of 3D graphics isn't the early PS1/Saturn/N64 days, it's the early 360/Unreal Engine 3 days where everything was either brown or looked like it was covered in slime. Yeah, the ugliest game ever made is probably Unreal Tournament III, which looks like it's made out of freshly butchered slabs of meat.
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Jan 22, 2018 19:12
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Bioshock 1, apart from the Big Daddy, had some of the worst model work I've ever seen in a video game. Holy poo poo did everything in that game look bad, and not in a creepy way, just lovely
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Jan 22, 2018 19:21
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Unpopular opinion: I really like Bioshock Infinite
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Jan 22, 2018 19:24
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peter gabriel posted:Unpopular opinion: I really like Bioshock Infinite thread title says "unpopular" not "insane" my man
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Jan 22, 2018 19:27
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That game earns its place in history for its visuals and use of licenced music alone. Don't @ me.
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Jan 22, 2018 19:33
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Steve2911 posted:That game earns its place in history for its visuals and use of licenced music alone. Don't @ me. So many single player games seem to be the product of creative people who couldn't get into the TV or movie business
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Jan 22, 2018 19:43
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Steve2911 posted:That game earns its place in history for its visuals and use of licenced music alone. Don't @ me. the best song in the game is public domain tho ("may the circle be unbroken")
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Jan 22, 2018 19:44
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Bioshock 2 is way better than 1 and Infinite at basically everything.
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Jan 22, 2018 19:48
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RBA Starblade posted:Bioshock 2 is way better than 1 and Infinite at basically everything. I actually completely agree, it has by far the best combat in the series and the last few levels are great (unlike Infinite, BS1, and actually System Shock 2, where the last levels are the worst by a good margin)
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Jan 22, 2018 19:50
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here's an unpopular Shock opinion: The RPG elements (by which I mean skill stats, stuff like the inventory system was fine) were a net negative to System Shock 2, and System Shock 1, once you get past the weird controls, is a significantly better game.
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Jan 22, 2018 19:51
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precision posted:the best song in the game is public domain tho which censors all of the references to God for super impenetrable reasons
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Jan 22, 2018 19:51
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This seems to be an unpopular opinion on this forum - crafting Steam badges is (was?) actually fun, as long as: - You like the game. - You like the art for the badge and the cards. - The big one: you actually trade for them with like-minded people rather than buy them on the marketplace. I spent a long time a few years ago hunting down Pixeljunk Eden cards. This was before it was in a Humble bundle, and so the cards were rare and regularly valued between $0.30-0.60, and I was adamant on not spending any money on it because why the hell would anyone do that. It took several months of sifting through random inventories and searching on Steam groups before I managed to get my badge to level 5. But the thing is - it was actually really fun to spot a card that I needed, like landing a super rare drop in an ARPG. And then to figure out what that user's looking for, find it in a different user's inventory, figure out what that user's looking for, etc. Engineering a series of (fair) trades that ended with my obtaining a precious rare card felt legit rewarding. Granted it very quickly was corrupted by the marketplace and card hoarders who are only looking for profit, as well as the insane flood of games in recent years which makes tracking down specific cards harder, but there are still smaller Steam groups who are really just into balanced trades. I haven't crafted any in a few years, but it was fun at the time. Pointless, yes, but really just a trading game.
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BS2 is probably the best in terms of being a polished FPS, but everything that made the other 'Shock games cool and interesting is bad bad.
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Feels Villeneuve posted:here's an unpopular Shock opinion: The RPG elements (by which I mean skill stats, stuff like the inventory system was fine) were a net negative to System Shock 2, and System Shock 1, once you get past the weird controls, is a significantly better game. SS1's controls thwarted me when I tried it a few years ago, but I'm interested in that remake, whatever's happening with it. quote:I actually completely agree, it has by far the best combat in the series and the last few levels are great (unlike Infinite, BS1, and actually System Shock 2, where the last levels are the worst by a good margin) The last sections have a really cool momentum to them, especially when you're using the upgraded drill. You just barrel your way through while your guy's trying to keep himself upright. The multiplayer was good for what it was too, though the dlc completely broke what little balance there was. RBA Starblade fucked around with this message at 20:04 on Jan 22, 2018 |
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RBA Starblade posted:SS1's controls thwarted me when I tried it a few years ago, but I'm interested in that remake, whatever's happening with it. idk. the Portable Edition's controls are basically similar to SS2 where you hit a button to turn mouselook on or off, I found it perfectly fine with that being used.
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When I see one of my Steam friends even has Bioshock in their library I kind of go  SNES Aladdin was better than Genesis Aladdin. People just like to think the latter is better just because you had a sword, but the SNES one is way more fun.
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precision posted:Quake is one of the ugliest games ever made. Just loving awful art direction. Romero did have a point when he said "Design is law!!!". Granted, he failed miserably when he tried to prove his point via Daikatana, but at least he was right.
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Riven was boring. You just wandered around an almost empty world full of random junk that did... things? Everything felt contrived and pointless.peter gabriel posted:'why am I even here'
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Good soup! posted:Tyrian is the greatest shmup Is this an unpopular opinion? Because it's a very good one. exquisite tea posted:The original masters of Riven were lost a long time ago so we'll probably never see an HD remake unless the entire game is basically built back up from scratch. A great tragedy as Riven is one of the best adventure games ever made (not an unpopular opinion). http://www.starryexpanse.com/
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All RPG levelling up systems suck. All of them. You start out with the game being a challenge which you cannot meet imaginitively because your character has only one or two skills; you end with your character having lots of skills and no need to use them because you have 5000 health and Massive Armour of Untouchability or what have you.
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Oh dear me posted:All RPG levelling up systems suck. All of them. You start out with the game being a challenge which you cannot meet imaginitively because your character has only one or two skills; you end with your character having lots of skills and no need to use them because you have 5000 health and Massive Armour of Untouchability or what have you. *Is playing Baldur's Gate 1* Oh man it's a horde of gibberlings! Ok my magic missile killed one, well that was 100% of my magic capability so send in the level 1 fighters! *Fighters and gibberling spend 20 turns missing each other, eventually something takes 3 damage and dies* Later... *Is playing Baldur's Gate 2* Oh man it's a powerful wizard! It is time for a magic duel of epic proportions! With all the spells in this game who knows what could happen! Let the battle begin! *Casts True Sight casts Breach fight might was well be over*
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Oh dear me posted:All RPG levelling up systems suck. All of them. You start out with the game being a challenge which you cannot meet imaginitively because your character has only one or two skills; you end with your character having lots of skills and no need to use them because you have 5000 health and Massive Armour of Untouchability or what have you. This. And the only thing really worse about games these days than games before is that everyone includes RPG progression in them now.
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more games should adapt the diablo 3 system where you can freely switch between wildly different builds without having to find some NPC and pay him money to use different skills
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precision posted:more games should adapt the diablo 3 system where you can freely switch between wildly different builds without having to find some NPC and pay him money to use different skills No you see it ruins character customisation if you don't have to replay the entire game to correct a mistake.
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Panzeh posted:This. And the only thing really worse about games these days than games before is that everyone includes RPG progression in them now. This is not a new thing, games have been including RPG elements since forever
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I was debating with myself about posting this in the unpopular opinions thread or the terrible games on steam thread & ended up here. I need to get this off my chest: the new Wolfenstein 2: the new Colossus SUCKS!!!!!!!!!! It really makes me sad because I thought Wolfenstein: the New Order was masterpiece. Enemy Territory I thought was excellent arena FPS combat. Wolfenstein: the Old Blood was pretty ok. It was kind of campy but that can be fun too. Sort of like the game No One Lives Forever 2. Anyways, the new game is a complete turd because the bad guys are complete nutcases and the story line doesn't make any sense - they have a lot of plot twists that are just too unbelievable to be taken seriously. I guess I can admit that it can be fun to go in that direction but I just wish they had more of an authentic mindset about it. http://store.steampowered.com/app/612880/
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Steve2911 posted:No you see it ruins character customisation if you don't have to replay the entire game to correct a mistake. It's also super important that you can ruin your character forever by foolishy putting points in the wrong stat because you didn't know any better despite the entire metagame revolving around copying someone else's build anyway. The one negative thing I'll say about D3's skill system is that it lacks a sense of progression. Runes and to a lesser extent skills unlock progressively, but fundamentally need to balanced independent of that, so a lot of the time your build will be done well before you've unlocked everything. That leaves you to chase loot (which pre-endgame is largely interchangeable outside of the occasional nice unique) or get invested in the story, which uhh...isn't as bad as most people say it is, but still isn't great. John Murdoch fucked around with this message at 23:02 on Jan 22, 2018 |
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