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BrianWilly posted:Okay I liked The Shape of Water okay but it winning best picture is dimension-splittingly insane. It's not even Del Toro's best film. It's not even his second or third best film.
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Happy Noodle Boy posted:It’s no Mimic, that’s for sure.
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Mar 5, 2018 06:30
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The snubs in the In Memorium are kind of loving egregious this year. No Bill Paxton, Mary Tyler Moore, John Hurt, Adam West, Powers Boothe or Tobe Hooper.
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Mar 5, 2018 06:34
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I love it how The Shape of Water and Get Out won Oscars since they're basically cheap B-movies
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Mar 5, 2018 06:34
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Shape of Water wasn't that cheap, was it? There's big ol' real (mostly?) sets in that.
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Mar 5, 2018 06:36
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20 million. That's not a lot by Hollywood standards.
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Mar 5, 2018 06:41
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Teenage Fansub posted:Shape of Water wasn't that cheap, was it? There's big ol' real (mostly?) sets in that. IMDB says the budget was $19 million. Darkest Hour is mostly just interiors with a lot of talking and it cost $30 million.
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Mar 5, 2018 06:42
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Egbert Souse posted:IMDB says the budget was $19 million. Darkest Hour is mostly just interiors with a lot of talking and it cost $30 million. I thought Dafoe was great in The Florida Project and generally liked the movie as a whole, but the ending lost me.
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Mar 5, 2018 06:47
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Well, I guess if I become decently rich I'll call up that production crew to build me my own apartment+movie theater.
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Mar 5, 2018 06:54
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Ended up nabbing $10k when Three Billboards didn't win Best Picture. The odds on that winning (1:1 odds) were so, so dumb.
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Mar 5, 2018 07:02
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Teenage Fansub posted:Well, I guess if I become decently rich I'll call up that production crew to build me my own apartment+movie theater. What they did to cut down production costs was The Strain was winding down as they were winding up production on Shape of Water so they reused sets from The Strain and some of the crew as well and apparently that saved them millions.
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Mar 5, 2018 07:05
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Lid posted:Blade 2 is great and the villain is wonderful AND it has Donnie Yen for no reason AND Ron Perlman *runs into the thread, short of breath* Did some FUCKER rag on Blade 2? Also, Deakins had to go an win and ruin one of the longest running gags in Oscars history.
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Mar 5, 2018 07:06
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Le Saboteur posted:The snubs in the In Memorium are kind of loving egregious this year. No Bill Paxton, Mary Tyler Moore, John Hurt, Adam West, Powers Boothe or Tobe Hooper. this is a bad post because half of these people died in Jan/Feb 2017 and were in the montage last year. https://twitter.com/johnkensil/status/970539247001391104 This tweet is better. You were right about West/Boothe/Hooper, and missing a few other names like John Mahoney, Reg E. Cathey and Della Reese
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Mar 5, 2018 07:06
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You're right I was just corrected on twitter about Paxton and Moore. Still a bit salty Harry Dean Stanton didn't get a clip either.
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Mar 5, 2018 07:07
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Hooper's a huge one. I bet someone weighed it up by going "Weeeeeell, he didn't really direct Poltergeist, did he?" gently caress Poltergeist. Texas Chainsaw 2!!
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Mar 5, 2018 07:10
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 Reminder that Jodie Foster is tiny
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Mar 5, 2018 07:11
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Mandrel posted:american sniper was a good war movie if you separate it from chris kyle the actual dude who doesn't have much in common with fictional american sniper character chris kyle no https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=USAKb8nvFcQ
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Cacator posted:I haven't seen Darkest Hour but he totally should have won for Tinker Tailor. He wasn't nominated but Michael Fassbender should have won that year for Shame.
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Mar 5, 2018 07:53
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Josh Lyman posted:Too bad that's a worldwide number. Only $165 million on an $84 budget plus probably another $80 million for advertising. I do love to see the constantly fluctuating barometer of what makes a profitable movie according to CineD. It always seems to be whatever ridiculous math supports the idea that some movie the OP doesn't like was actually a flop.
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Mar 5, 2018 08:09
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Party update: https://twitter.com/caraNYT/status/970551765761273856
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Mar 5, 2018 08:11
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The Veni Veni Veni award for most underrated movie of 2017 went to It Comes at Night.
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Baronash posted:I do love to see the constantly fluctuating barometer of what makes a profitable movie according to CineD. It always seems to be whatever ridiculous math supports the idea that some movie the OP doesn't like was actually a flop. It’s much harder to look at the international market. Marketing costs may fluctuate wildly and are shared by local partners. But it also means a much smaller fraction of takings filters back home. There’s no straightforward convention for dealing with it. Whether a film is seen as successful by studios usually hinges solely on their domestic performance. Usually.
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Vegetable posted:The convention is clear. Multiply production budget by two to account for domestic marketing. Domestic takings minus total domestic costs is usually the barometer of profitability. Yeah, none of this is news to me. Well, except for the idea that studios don't value international performance, which isn't so much news as it is just flat out wrong. Like, the idea that a studio thumbs its nose at tens (or even hundreds) of millions of dollars because some 80k-per-year accountant somewhere might have to do a little bookkeeping before the studio gets their cut is asinine. Baronash fucked around with this message at 09:59 on Mar 5, 2018 |
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Mar 5, 2018 09:52
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The real celebration we should be having is that The Greatest Showman won nothing, nada, squat.
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Mar 5, 2018 09:59
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Teenage Fansub posted:My best pickies list goes: Yes! Loved that movie. Dark comedy at its best. I liked it more than The Lobster.
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Mar 5, 2018 12:54
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I think this was a pretty all right year, no overt travesties in the award selections and it was cool to see Get Out win something. I think we’re probably going to see a lot of films try to imitate the Shape of Water during awards season with lead characters who want to gently caress weird things for the next couple years.
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Mar 5, 2018 14:12
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veni veni veni posted:The Veni Veni Veni award for most underrated movie of 2017 went to It Comes at Night. This movie was mind bendingly stupid
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Mar 5, 2018 15:03
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Baronash posted:Yeah, none of this is news to me. Well, except for the idea that studios don't value international performance, which isn't so much news as it is just flat out wrong. I think worst case scenario is China. You need to pair with a local distributor, and the Chinese government owns half of any such venture, so you're looking at a 25% return on the gross sales, compared to a roughly 60% domestic return. I think the average international take is roughly 40% of gross sales. Also it should be noted that I think movies tend to make roughly 1.4 times their cinema take in post cinema sales (DVDs, TV, streaming, hotels, planes, etc). That takes a while to filter back to the production company, but it can save movies that weren't profitable at the box office. I think the original post was talking about arm-chair debates about profitability, not board room ones. They know exactly what they are getting as returns, but it's hard for people on the sidelines to make estimates about if a movie is profitable or not. So we double the production cost for marketing, and another 80% or something for other costs like print distribution, DVD production and overheads, halve the gross box office take for distribution costs, but then add 1.5 times the box office take for post-cinema sales...and suddenly we're looking at a lot of compounding rule-of-thumbs.
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Looked over my list I submitted to that Oscars challenge thing, and it turned out I got 13/24, which is at least better than my guesses last year. I really expected Bladerunner 2049 to get more technical props than it did.
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vyst posted:This movie was mind bendingly stupid No you.
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Happy Noodle Boy posted:Texas Chainsaw? Sure why not. gotta love how they included Texas Chainsaw Massacre on their little "we love movies!" montage and then left Tobe Hooper off the In Memorium
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exquisite tea posted:I think we’re probably going to see a lot of films try to imitate the Shape of Water during awards season with lead characters who want to gently caress weird things for the next couple years. Sounds good.
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Here are a few things that I think have some real fuckable potential, aspiring Hollywood writers take note: - Trees - Couches - Freight Train - Bag of Marshmallows - Sega Dreamcast - Football Stadium - 9/11
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exquisite tea posted:Here are a few things that I think have some real fuckable potential, aspiring Hollywood writers take note: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8qnIpkiBTTM
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Mar 5, 2018 19:40
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Are these fuckable jokes based off one movie winning this year or is there more to it that I'm missing
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Mar 5, 2018 19:41
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I thought this was gonna be the chair loving guy from that episode of Nip/Tuck.
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nerve posted:Are these fuckable jokes based off one movie winning this year or is there more to it that I'm missing sam rockwell fucks the billboards in three billboards and day-lewis's character in phantom thread forces his sister (the great lesley manville) to ejaculate inside the fabric of each dress he makes (thus the title)
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joking aside, Phantom Thread is 100% about DDL wanting to gently caress the gowns. also Timmy fucks an apricot in Call Me By Your Name
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