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Rand alPaul posted:JFK was a bad president. He got nothing through Congress, his cabinet was full of Harvard shitheads that talked down to people, and he spent 95% of his time loving women besides his wife. He took the virginity of WH interns fresh out of high school, some in threesomes, and hosed Marilyn Monroe. He even hosed a KGB agent in a brothel. He did all of this while hooked on a mix of stimulants that would kill a race horse. Cuban missile crisis was JFK's fault he would have being thought of as an awful president if he wasn't shot
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Lightning Lord posted:Why aren't LBJ's descendants politicians vietnam tarnished his name pernemnantly if not for vietnam he would be rated #2 best president of 20th century after FDR
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Jan 29, 2018 22:03
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punk rebel ecks posted:Why do people like John F Kennedy so much? Not only did he get nothing done in Congress but he also almost blew up the world. gave good speeches young/good looking (when he died) got shot
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Jan 30, 2018 00:39
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Lawman 0 posted:For the record I never gave a poo poo about Camelot or the Kennedy's I actually kinda wonder why even people who wasn't alive when jfk was president seem to know about him and vaguely remember him with fondness
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Sheng-Ji Yang posted:i for one am glad lbj killed kennedy and then went on to actually achieve things (and kill a bunch of vietnamese but gotta break a few eggs tbh) vietnam war was what broke america pretty much everything bad like the cultural wars and reagan and trump somehow had it's origins in the vietnam war
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Jan 30, 2018 16:46
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WampaLord posted:I think Nikki Haley did one and her career mostly trended upwards after that. is that a promotion or demotion from gov of south carolina
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Jan 31, 2018 18:54
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Jeb! Repetition posted:LBJ wasn't even the best unelected president (that was Teddy) lbj did way more for the average working class american than teddy
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Jan 31, 2018 21:47
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The Kingfish posted:Seriously though. He is gonna die soon and identifying himself with an unspoken successor would do wonders for keeping the American left (somewhat) united. idk about that I mean maybe not healthy enough for active politics but people live a long time nowadays wouldn't be surprised if he lasts another 15 years
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Jan 31, 2018 21:48
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The Kingfish posted:LBJ also killed a whole lot more foreigners and set the table for the modern conservative movement. as did teddy only difference was that america had a lot more B-52s in 1965 than in 1900
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Jan 31, 2018 21:49
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Gringostar posted:if not for vietnam (which he royally hosed himself on) lbj would be up there with fdr it's amazing how much LBJ's first 2 years in office ended up defining america all the way to today we are still fighting over civil rights, medicaid and liberals hating america: 50 years after 1968
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Jan 31, 2018 21:50
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Shear Modulus posted:lbj's non-vietnam success really makes an argument for political ruthlessness bringing progress rather than moderation or it also makes the case that a great insider politician who shares your ideology is what you want
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Jan 31, 2018 22:14
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The Kingfish posted:Warren is basically just a typical dem when it comes to foreign policy right? I mean, I'd settle for her. But I'd choose an untested young socialist over her in the primary. literally any American president is gonna run pretty much the same foreign policy with a +/- 5% difference president bernie would still be droning people it's because the consequences of not droning people is too high for domestic politics: if there's a terrorist attack it's way too easy for the opposition to blame you for not droning enough browns and that resonates with the American public. So droning is just the default.
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Jan 31, 2018 23:42
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also let's face it neither E.Warren nor Bernie (heart attack) is gonna win the primaries it's gonna be someone who can package bernie/warren's ideas together with some idpol poo poo but is younger than bernie and has more charisma than warren so yeah it's gonna be pamela harris or someone like her
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Jan 31, 2018 23:47
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and lol if joe biden is the nominee, then we somehow have another boomer vs boomer election in the loving year 2020 when the median boomer is prob in a retirement home
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get that OUT of my face posted:is she still anti-marijuana like she was when she was running for attorney general? she managed to be more against it than her republican challenger. booker is the chief sponsor of a "legalize weed and give restorative justice to war on drugs victims" bill in the senate, so it'd be nice if she hopped on there gillibrand is basically the sort of political chameleon who is ultimately gonna benefit from bernie's 2016 campaign which isn't necessarily bad, even FDR was a political chameleon when he got elected
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