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Liquid Communism
Mar 9, 2004

Nifara posted:

Kevin Crawford is, in my eyes, the uncontested champion of RPG kickstarters. The man never misses a beat and even if you're not someone who goes for his stuff normally you have to admit it's superbly and expertly done, with solid production values and, yes, delivers ahead of schedule.

There's literally no one else I can think of who I can say all of those things about. If he ran a course on how to be a consummate professional in the field of RPG kickstarter delivery I'd sign up immediately.

John Wick has impressed me with 7th Sea 2, as well.

I don't like some of his mechanics choices, but the products are showing up on time and well done.

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Liquid Communism
Mar 9, 2004

Loomer posted:

Colorblind people are used to a little trouble anyway and won't come after you for being a Colour Hitler or anything. Just avoid putting bright green next to bright red and 90% of colorblind folk will thank you - it's a combo that can give red/greeners a really weird nausea response. (This, as you'd imagine, makes Christmas great fun!)

Is blue/orange a problem? It contrasts just as sharply.

Liquid Communism
Mar 9, 2004

That Old Tree posted:

I'm sympathetic to worrying that a game line is "dead", because it absolutely does become harder to push for games and find players for a game that isn't actively supported.

On the other hand, "active support" is reserved only for the relative megabucks earners of this hobby which are uniformly not great, so whatever. Plus most of these people will probably be jumping on the new train in a year or two no matter what they say now.

I'm sure a lot of those tears are PF Society related.

You know, the 'living campaign' that never in a decade figured out how to reliably handle characters past level 12 because the game just breaks for casters after that point.

Liquid Communism
Mar 9, 2004

We always ran Team Four Specialist Clerics for LC.

Liquid Communism
Mar 9, 2004

I mean, notionally it's an easy fix. Just scale magic to combat, and remove non combat magic from casters entirely to the realm of magic items and plot macguffins.

Liquid Communism
Mar 9, 2004

Maxwell Lord posted:

What I don't understand is when was the action economy in D&D a huge problem? Both 5e and PF 2 are making shows of being strict about it but even in 3.x, barring "bag of rats" silliness it wasn't a major issue.

So far as I can tell from games I've been invited to, PF's whole purpose at this point is 'how can I break this system in the optimal manner'. Fudging the action economy is one of the few ways to get non-casters to theoretically keep up.

Liquid Communism
Mar 9, 2004

Alien Rope Burn posted:

Man, if you think Forgotten Realms had issues with being upended, Greyhawk kept getting whole reinventions, usually by people who wanted to make it the Dark Ages counterpart to the Forgotten Realms high fantasy kitchen sink and scrub all the goofy stuff out. Last I saw everything was at warrrr because of the minis game and it basically came across as Warhammer Fantasy Lite starring that D&D Thing You Remember From Way Back.

Remember when they rebooted Dragonlance into grimdark low fantasy because Weis and Hickman pissed off WoTC?

Countblanc posted:

Well, there's also plenty of straight up ignorance on balance - We've all heard the "monk is banned" thing. Lots of people have never even seen a decently-played caster (not optimized, just decent), either as a courtesy from the table or because they don't know what that looks like. My roommate was shocked when I suggested Rogues weren't as good as Wizards in 5e, saying she's always done well as a Rogue. And I don't think she's lying or anything, but like, she's still wrong.

Some people need to see the game broken to get why it's a problem. My best buddy demonstrated it for us back in AD&D when his Wizard not only defeated but soloed a Great Wyrm black dragon thanks to contingencies, Lower Resistance, and Polymorph Any Object.

Liquid Communism fucked around with this message at 18:04 on Mar 10, 2018

Liquid Communism
Mar 9, 2004

Alien Rope Burn posted:

Was that Fifth Age? I didn't pay attention too much to that. I mean, SAGA wasn't bad, but Dragonlance was so deeply rooted in its own little corner of AD&D that it seemed surreal to try and market it without it. I mean, it makes some sense, trying to turn on novel readers with a lighter storygame, but at that point Dragonlance just wasn't as hot (trash) it was in the eighties.

Yep, that was Fifth Age.

quote:

This set takes place 30 years after the second Cataclysm of Krynn, with the old gods of Krynn having left after the destruction brought by Chaos. The game is based in the new Krynn era, that of the Fifth Age, also known as the Age of Mortals. Dragon Overlords now rule much of Ansalon, and have slaughtered the other dragons for their lifeforce. Although the Dragon Lords remain, Man is now the dominant force in Ansalon. The world's old magic is gone, and creatures such as the good dragons, silvanesti elves, and kender live in fear. It is a time of chaos, with rival factions vying for power and the Dragons desperately attempting to reassert their authority.

Dragons of Summer Flame, the book tied into that, was what Weis and Hickman thought was the last DL book, because they were leaving TSR. They came back to do another trilogy and 'fix' the campaign world after the WoTC buyout, and did some 3e Dragonlance stuff via Weis' husband at the time's company, Sovereign Press. It dissolved after their divorce, and the rights went back to WoTC who haven't touched it since 2008.

Liquid Communism
Mar 9, 2004

homullus posted:

I don't think anybody disagreeing with you failed to understand what you meant by "encounter design." Many of us have seen that point of view before, and sadly, no amount of explaining ever seems to help people with that perspective. I hope someday you play -- or better still, GM -- a game in which the GM never needs to ask herself "how do I stop the casters this time?"

Exactly this. The minute you have to take steps to scale around basic class abilities by going outside the mechanics for resisting them, you have hit a pain point in the game design, not a GM scaling issue.

Liquid Communism
Mar 9, 2004

moths posted:

The thing is that they don't even want that - they want martials to be limited only to what they imagine an untrained nobody is capable of.

When you see a trained UFC dude knock someone out in three seconds (unarmed!) or a guy in full plate doing aerobics, that becomes "unrealistic.' That thing you just saw in real life is less believable than if a wizard did it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pAzI1UvlQqw

I like this video as an example. Guys in firefighting bunker gear, modern military armor, and full plate run the same obstacle course.

Liquid Communism
Mar 9, 2004

spectralent posted:

Yeah, that was my impression watching it. The knight was benefitting a lot from not having to deal with crap wobbling around on him. Also I did notice he was wearing trainers and not mail boots, but presumably that's just because perfectly smooth beams which are fine with combat boots aren't a fair comparison to running on actual earth like a knight would.

Modern trainers aren't too far off from 14th century shoes anyway. Historically the soles of the feet weren't usually armored, they were just mail or plate sabatons over leather boots. Even those were fairly rare and usually only seen on cavalry because hitting someone in the feet is a lot easier when those feet are in stirrups at your shoulder level.

Liquid Communism
Mar 9, 2004

Honestly, a dungeon crawl as a movie would probably sell if you were to actually pay someone with some modicum of skill to write it. Set it in the Realms, cameo Elminster, call it good enough. Focus on making a fun fantasy action movie more than a series of lovely injokes.

Nobody'd invest in it, though, so you'd never get the budget to do it well.

Liquid Communism
Mar 9, 2004

People who don't get Tom Bombadil should not be trusted.

Liquid Communism
Mar 9, 2004

Kurieg posted:

"Hey could you please stop raping me?"
"No in fact i'm gonna rape you again!"
"Hang on I need to call in an impartial 3rd party arbitration team to determine if this is, in fact, rape."

Yeah, this is a big enough thing in Real Industries that my employers have officially waived arbitration for these things, and there's a Senate Bill to make it illegal.

Liquid Communism
Mar 9, 2004

BetterWeirdthanDead posted:

The indie comics analogy works well here. A lot of smaller creators feel fortunate to break even on table fees and gas after a two-day convention.

In comics at least, isn't a fair chunk of the industry turning to stuff like Patreon as an additional revenue stream?

Liquid Communism
Mar 9, 2004

BetterWeirdthanDead posted:

This is true. Patreon content covers a lot of ground from monthly phone wallpapers to unique original art, exclusive comics, and tutorials.

Yeah. Even a few of the more well known webcomics guys are pulling in several thousand bucks a month for doing them via Patreon.

Liquid Communism
Mar 9, 2004

Kurieg posted:

Yup, Patreon is a more reliable revenue stream than advertisements and also exists as a means of interaction that has largely replaced Forums. Which is why the whole thing with the banks cutting down on "Smut" has hurt several of these creators tangentially because occasionally they post cheesecake or what have you.

That bit irritates me. If people wanna draw smut, and it's not something patently obscene like kids or whatnot, more power to them. The whole 'no paypal for sex' thing is supposed to be about preventing trafficking, and drawn art has nothing to do with that.

Liquid Communism
Mar 9, 2004

In more fun TRPG news, here's an interesting set of articles on the Swedish edgelord cabal that is Nu White Wolf and how they appear to be deliberately courting the alt-right as their intended audience for the oWOD relaunch.

http://www.dogwithdice.com/whitewolfaredead/

Liquid Communism
Mar 9, 2004

Cassa posted:

From my understanding, it's the CEO who's a huge piece of poo poo.

Who has also proceeded to hire pieces of similarly flavored poo poo to work on their product.

Liquid Communism
Mar 9, 2004

I hate how it's more and more obvious that a lot of people in this industry are like onions that are more and more rotten as you peel away the layers.

Liquid Communism
Mar 9, 2004

So White Wolf made an official response:

Liquid Communism
Mar 9, 2004

Crossposting from the WW thread, the original poster updated with a response from WW, and it is some of the finest shade-throwing I've seen in a while.


quote:

Edit: Following the article’s publication, DogWithDice was approached directly by Tobias Sjögren, CEO of White Wolf publishing, requesting the chance to speak with concerning the article mentioned. We were invited to email Tobias. After some consideration, we put together the following questions to raise. This screenshot is edited to remove personal details only.



During the time between sending this reply, we were startled by the attention that the article received, both in terms of positive and negative reception. Much of the negative reaction was phrased, once again, around the conceit that “vampires are evil” – a statement echoed by many fans of and a few creative minds at White Wolf including Mark Rein-Hagen, which we had previously discussed in chapter 5 of the article and felt was very lacking.

During this time, we also received emails from concerned individuals who are unconnected with this site, stated that they had received death threats from others as the result of this article. So as not to encourage such behavior, we will keep this source anonymous, however we would be remiss in pointing out these actions in relation to a discussion about ‘evil’.

We received the following reply.



CC’d into the conversation is Jason Carl,CEO of By Night Studios. Some of the points that were mentioned as questions in our email are answered, some are not. After much consideration, we feel that the statement that has been issued in the email by Tobias Sjögren is sufficient in response to the article posted. We do not feel that verbal communication would be the best means to ensure transparency and accuracy in reporting of the discussion to our readers. As a result we are happy to include Sjögren’s statement here as a post-script for the article.

That is some of the best 'it is pointless to talk to you because you will misrepresent anything we discuss' I've seen implied in quite some time.

Liquid Communism
Mar 9, 2004

Alien Rope Burn posted:

That's a lot more than I got out of Tobias when I e-mailed him over a year ago about my concerns, which was a polite but essentially dismissive "thanks for writing" note sent from his iPhone, before just going and doubling down on defending Mr. Smith later publicly.

Paradox decided to basically give White Wolf carte blanche to operate on its own, so they don't oversee them directly. That being said, that was still a decision they made and that they're responsible for, and it's one I hold them to. If they ever care about it, which seems unlikely, they can do something about it. That all being said, all you really need to do is not buy from White Wolf, and talk publicly about why you aren't buying White Wolf products. I don't see putting money into, say, Onyx Path products as a big deal, though I'm far warier than I was a year or two ago. Certainly, putting money into the Old World of Darkness would seem to set a bad precedent right now. In the end, the only thing that's really going to change anything is V5 and other One World of Darkness products flopping.

It seems like the same problem with Topps and CGL for Shadowrun. Rights owners don't seem to care how badly the licensee uses the property or hurts its reputation.

Liquid Communism
Mar 9, 2004

NGDBSS posted:

In the case of the latter, that's how Swedish Dracula signed a public message related to VtM stuff back in maybe 2016. Someone around here should have a screenshot?

He also used it verbally in the 2016 keynote speech at the Grand Masquerade.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p9ezN0vwKhA&t=3624s

Liquid Communism
Mar 9, 2004

White Wolf posted:

As we promised in our AMA we are beginning a new program to engage more fully and positively with the White Wolf community. Our first action in honoring that commitment is to announce Jason Carl as EVP of Community Development, and Matthew Dawkins as Senior Community Director, effective immediately.

One of their most important goals will be to keep you better informed about everything that happens with White Wolf, and to give you more opportunities to participate in community activities. Together, Jason and Matthew will run a program that includes community communications, outreach, fan clubs, events, product previews, video teasers, LARP, and streaming video.

And we are very happy to tell you that their first streaming project is The Gentleman’s Guide to V5, featuring Matthew Dawkins in the role he popularized on YouTube. The Gentleman Gamer returns very soon on our twitch.tv channel, and he’ll guide you through everything a neonate needs to know about these modern nights, offering hints of the content you can come to expect in this new edition of Vampire, V5.

We are also adding Community Managers to our team to service and answer our fans and customers better and more rapidly. We intend to recruit diversely, and encourage anyone with a love for the World of Darkness and experience in managing communities, fandoms, and events to approach us by emailing community@white-wolf.com with a resumé and personal statement. This team will build up over the next months.

You can reach Jason and Matthew on Twitter, Facebook and thru all our White Wolf social media channels and by emailing community@white-wolf.com. We ask that you be a bit patient with them this week as they get up to speed, but they’re both looking forward to hearing all your ideas and suggestions for how to grow, strengthen, and celebrate the White Wolf community.

Biographies

Jason Carl, VP of Community Development
Jason has been most recently our V5 Producer. As a longtime member of the World of Darkness community he is well known as the CEO of By Night Studios and a contributing writer to Mind’s Eye Theatre books and host of several The Grand Masquerade events

Matthew Dawkins, Senior Community Director
Matthew is known for his YouTube channel The Gentleman Gamer, his role as co-host of the Onyx Pathcast, and his works as a writer and developer for Onyx Path Publishing and White Wolf Entertainment, along with many other publishers of tabletop games. Matthew has a firm record of community management, enthusiastic personal engagement, professional public relations skills, and hiring diverse teams on projects under his development. He will be overseeing streaming, community management and communication while continuing his creative duties for us and other companies.

Crosspostin' from the WoD thread.

Liquid Communism
Mar 9, 2004

They're trying to backpedal pretty hard, and the chuds are pretty sad panda about it.

https://www.worldofdarkness.com/rules_of_conduct

Liquid Communism
Mar 9, 2004

Sion posted:

Last updated over a year ago. Am I missing something?

Yeah, they didn't update the last updated line. Scroll down.

Liquid Communism
Mar 9, 2004

So in TG industry news, a gamergater apparently got roughed up at a bar at GenCon for spouting off his nonsense in person. For values of 'roughed up' equal to losing a button on his favorite shirt.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Yst30wdSzQ&t=1s

This gets into industrychat because said chud is apparently naming Matt Fantastic (designer of Expancity) as the guy who 'attacked' him and is currently trying to get his crowd of gamergaters and alt-knights to harass the GenCon livestream until they kick him out of the con.

Taking a look at this rear end in a top hat's YouTube channel I have to assume this was his plan in coming to the con at all.

Liquid Communism
Mar 9, 2004

Dawgstar posted:

So apparently he even called the cops and they don't care?

He shows off a broken window at the bar, and the bar also doesn't care, which leads me to believe that the serial harasser and gamergater is full of poo poo as a christmas goose.

Looking a bit deeper, Jeremy Hambly's his name, and he's a tumor on tradgames in general and MtG in very specific.

Here's some of his work from last fall: https://www.hipstersofthecoast.com/2017/11/please-stop-harassment-mtg/

Liquid Communism
Mar 9, 2004

Mors Rattus posted:

If that dude did get hosed up, I wanna buy the games of whoever did it.

His idea of 'hosed up' is, per his video, a button missing from his shirt and a line on his arm where his sleeve chafed him.

Liquid Communism
Mar 9, 2004

Chud's now advertising a t-shirt. Yeah. Definitely not staged.

Liquid Communism
Mar 9, 2004

Jeffrey of YOSPOS posted:

You two just said opposite things - does it being a light beating increase or decrease the odds that it was staged? People here indicated that it was not serious.

I would expect a staged beating to focus on looking real rather than being real, but I dunno about this case.

Staged as in he set out to start poo poo with -someone- for his own profit at the con, the better known the better. Its how he works.

Liquid Communism
Mar 9, 2004

Dawgstar posted:

Is that why he's, quote, 'trapped' at the con? I watched a bit of his video and he complained about being unable to leave.

Just say hotels are expensive, dude.

He's 'unable' to leave because his flight out isn't until later in the week.

This is the guy who has a multi-year feud with WotC because they banned his rear end permanently for his harassing behavior, and some bright lad in Seattle found and banned his MtG Online account as well, and won't let him on to sell his 'valuable' e-cards.

Liquid Communism
Mar 9, 2004

Matt, being a smart cookie who's at a game con right now, has set his Twitter to private and disabled much of his official web presence to avoid having to moderate all the chud outrage.

Meanwhile, the chud (who I refuse to dignify with a name) has started a gofundme to try and bring a civil case.

https://t.co/MknyfXqxzU

Liquid Communism
Mar 9, 2004

The hilarious part of this whole chud is he's going to talk up a civil suit, then walk away with five digits worth of donations because any lawyer in the country is going to tell him that they'd be embarrassed to go before a judge and try to prove damages or pain and suffering for an alleged assault that left no marks and did a total amount of material damages amounting to a couple shirt buttons.

Liquid Communism
Mar 9, 2004

Dawgstar posted:

Has there been any more out of the Hambly thing? I know he's already been caught in a lie about giving a police report according to one article I read.

Yeah, the guy he's accusing is basically laughing at him, and Hambly's still convinced he's somehow going to get something out of this.





I guess it was in the 40k thread instead of here. Summary: The cops don't care, the bar doesn't care, all signs point to 'this poo poo never happened as described'. Matt was linked in a twitter post from early June from someone else telling GenCon that Hambly would probably try to get media passes under false pretenses, so my general impression is that this is a revenge attempt because this guy is just that petty. He was selling a t-shirt two days after and then started up a $10k gofundme claiming he's planning on bringing civil suit.

Edit: The shirt.

Liquid Communism fucked around with this message at 21:59 on Aug 5, 2018

Liquid Communism
Mar 9, 2004

Hambley's ongoing fever dream that he's going to get awarded massive damages in civil court for an 'assault' whose objective damages could at best be said to be two shirt buttons, and which he widely publicized himself so any reputation damage would be his own fault, I assume.

Liquid Communism
Mar 9, 2004

I would be amazed if any lawyer would take him up on the case. Few who are any good have any interest in going to court with a level of evidence that will make them look bad and likely get the case tossed by the judge.

Liquid Communism
Mar 9, 2004

Vegas doesn't make odds on sure things.

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Liquid Communism
Mar 9, 2004

gradenko_2000 posted:

to be clear, it's this feat:




Any class can become Trained in Deception, but only Rogues can take a Skill Feat at level 1.

Character Backgrounds can provide Skill Feats at level 1, such as the Entertainer background providing the Fascinating Performance skill feat at level 1, but none of the current backgrounds provide Close Match specifically, so you'd have to create a custom background for it.

EDIT: A closer reading of the feat and the Deception rules suggests that you technically always can portray yourself as a different age, gender, or ancestry, but this feat eliminates the penalty for doing so.

So it's not a just needing a feat to be androgynous, but needing a feat to be a character who can pass for a different gender than they biologically are?

Hooo boy. I think this is another one of those wonderful 'the people writing the rules aren't clued in to what the blurbs are being written about' moments.


Also, unless PF2 has drastically changed the power scale of feats, that is such a niche edge-case penalty to be removed that I have no idea why anyone would even write that feat.

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