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Don Dongington
Sep 27, 2005

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Hello Possums!

Well it was an exciting month in Australian Politics. Lets have some highlights:

Michalia Cash

Current Status: Embattled
Description: Senator Cash recently responded to a line of questioning about her behaviour during the ROC-sponsored AFP raid of Bill Shorten's former union the AWU by threatening to name women on Bill's staff that may or may not have touched a willie before. This has generally been considered to have been a bad move.
Last seen: Behind a whiteboard

Barnaby Joyce

Current Status: Former
Description: Former leader of the National Party, now disgraced back bencher after having knocked up a staffer and basically taken the piss with the entitlements
Last Seen: Browsing for rentals on Realestate.com.au while trying to avoid Tony's excessive BBQ invitations

Michael Keenan

Current Status: Embattled
Description: Current Human Services Minister. Probably tipped the media off about AFP raids while Justice Minister, probably lied to Parliament about it.
Last Seen: Updating LinkedIn profile in the break room

Julie Bishop

Current Status: Beleaguered
Description: Foreign Minister, typically the most Teflon of the lot, recently exposed for having claimed 32k in travel allowences for her Schrodinger's Boyfriend. Most likely dobbed in by the PM to head off a leadership challenge in 3 weeks
Last Seen: Swanning around in Business Class

Malcolm Turnbull

Current Status: Troubled
Description: While still the most popular PM, he's a couple of weeks away from the famous 30 Negative News Polls that were used as an excuse to oust his predecessor.
Last Seen: Dropping a dump truck full of money out the front of NBN co

Michael Mcormack

Current Status: DOA
Description: New leader of the National Party, the Liberal's junior coalition party. Currently under intense criticism for having tweeted a lot about gay people being insane sickos.
Last Seen: Lets be real here, nobody knows what he looks like okay.

Bonus content: NAME THAT NAT with our own I Would Blow Dane Cook!

Strap in folks, it's going to be another fantastic month!

Don Dongington fucked around with this message at 10:04 on Mar 2, 2018

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Don Dongington
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NewMars posted:

So if the donut king abdicates, who takes the throne?

Ideally not the Potato Emperor.

Don Dongington
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I don't even know who has the balance of power in the Tasmanian state parliament because they're about as relevant to auspol today as uh

Expert advice?

Don Dongington
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I would blow Dane Cook posted:

Whoever made the OP needs to be fired and replaced with a PATH intern, they still haven't added my nationals mp identification quiz.

Link it and I'll make it so.

Don Dongington
Sep 27, 2005

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Added link to OP.

Don Dongington
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froglet posted:

Not a joke question, but... What could the union's actually do if he put it out there that coal needs to die. I mean, they can't join the libs, they'd get screwed over, and the greens would agree with that statement...

Do you remember Kevin Rudd?

They don't have to leave the ALP, they just change the leader.

Don Dongington
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It should be noted that most unions DO support stronger action on climate change.

Don Dongington
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GoldStandardConure posted:

interstate rivalry is for people who are actually massive gently caress heads and want someone to look down on, but also want to maintain an air of progressiveness so they can't attack non white people, gay people etc

Quite right!

Also WA has a Labor govt far more progressive than QLDs you poo poo eating northern turds,

Don Dongington
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hooman posted:

Queensland the Ur-Poo.

I was thinking PooCeption but this is good too

Don Dongington
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That doesn't mean you cant empathise with their plight.

Well presuming you don't lack empathy .

I mean you might be Bill Shorten after all.

Jury's still out.

Don Dongington
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JBP posted:

True. Lucky we have the incredible Tea Towell Cum Ponchos to balance the scales.

Don Dongington
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Actually, it's about ethics in online surveying

Don Dongington
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Imagine being such a clueless gently caress as to think the ALP are "playing it too left" for the electorate, under any circumstances
:allears:

Don Dongington
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hiddenmovement posted:

Is it one where manufacturers of ramen, tins of soup and porridge do really really well?

Anecdotal proof: just stocked up on cruskits and cheese, also uncle Toby's instant oats and (aluminium) nespresso pods because I can't afford to buy breakfast or coffee anymore.

Don Dongington
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Synthbuttrange posted:

loving NBN

god drat loving nbn

they've disconnected my service by mistake.

my provider iinet has no idea what's going on, so I'm on hold to iinet support which is on hold to nbn support.

This has been going on daily since WEDNESDAY

loving nbn

Churn the gently caress away from iinet ASAP and watch your problems disappear.

Aussie Broadband or :fuckoff:

Don Dongington
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JBP posted:

Bear in mind that iiNet are dogshit. When I switched from them it was a nightmare (as it was getting my service moved to a new premises with nbn). They charged me $300 for a connection I already had and a raft of other things. They're not competent and I wouldn't trust them saying it's not their fault.

Even before TPG bought them and ran them into the ground, I had at least 3 ADSL2 connections disconnected by their worthless provisioning team weeks after connection because poo poo process and incompetence.

Don Dongington
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Synthbuttrange posted:

goddammit, I dont wanna go to loving telstra they're the worst. :( or at least whenever I had to get any lines hooked up.

even if I do switch that still leaves me with no internet til I'm hooked up because you cant just call in anymore as a backup.

gently caress the nbn

I don't know how many times ITT and the last 3 we're going to recommend Aussie Broadband but maybe if I do it one more time you might loving listen :P

Don Dongington
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Dimebag posted:

Going through both Telstra and NBN co for my in-laws and it's nothing more than a confusing world of pain, where each side has hosed up but are blaming the other.

The best part is where they have had to have new copper run down from the pit and I asked the NBN guy why they would do this and not just run fibre in these cases, he said well you can but how much money have you got, I asked out of interest what would it cost and was advised he cannot tell me the inflated or "actual" cost as it would put his job in jeopardy. So my assumption is the actual cost would be equal or less than new copper line but charged at such a rate no-one would bother unless you are able to eat the cost, which explains how Malcolm got his fibre line into point piper.

Point Piper's on HFC, he just got it 9 months before anyone else on the street will. In 9 months time when the rest of the street jumps on and the speeds drop through the floor, then he'll probably have Fibre to the Home put in.

NBN Co claim the lead in from the pit to the premises costs about 20% of the entire connection from the exchange or POI back (not sure which). I assume a lot of this is to do with installing the poo poo in people's houses, having to work to schedule, dealing with out of date cable records and potentially moving the point of termination as in a lot of cases it's not in an appropriate spot. I.E. new NBN FTTN installations were typically done in the garage.

The game plan for the near future is to move to FTTC, which involves a fibre run to the pit out front of your house, which is still $$ but less of a pain because they can just do a whole bunch without entering the property; and then they install a VDSL or G.Fast box in the pit, which is powered by the modem or similar end point device down the phone line. As we're talking about <90M of copper, you can basically get gigabit Ethernet performance, and the latency drops way down from VDSL to the node.

It's still not ideal, and the first year or two under the Coalition at least will still be capped at 100/40 - but there's a much simpler upgrade path than VDSL.

HFC can technically do gigabit via the DOCSIS 3.1 standard, but by all accounts the networks weren't maintained well and that'll probably end up being a clusterfuck.

Don Dongington
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Synthbuttrange posted:

I've been with them for 15 years and its just sad how they've fallen over. :(

can I even transfer my provider if they've hosed up the line right now wha tht ehell

If you're not getting the support and responsiveness you think you should be getting, it's time to call the TIO.

Don Dongington
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I'm Abbott and Turnbull tripping over each other to score own goals this month,

Don Dongington
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GoldStandardConure posted:

I approve of this course of action

No not the beak

Don Dongington
Sep 27, 2005

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How many Afghan babies died to make this dinner set possible

Don Dongington
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The funniest part about the boomer outrage is that if you're pushing retirement and you don't have 400+K in equity on your house (let alone any investments), then what the gently caress we're you doing these last 15 years? Howard and the Rudd/Gillard govts handed you the keys on a silver platter and you still hosed it up.

Don Dongington
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It's genius. What other demographic are 100% guaranteed to vote against non-white immigration? The Christian Chinese aren't working out anymore, because their pesky kids are all bloody leftist uni students,

Don Dongington
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It's almost like the media don't want a left wing woman with a Muslim-sounding surname in parliament, and are willing to make poo poo up in order to prevent it,

Don Dongington
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He's totally going to Gollum the Liberal leadership, just in time to go down with the ship.

Don Dongington
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CrazyTolradi posted:

Upon translation, the static is found to read "THE PLIGHT OF TRUE WORKER"

"CHANGEEEE FROOMMM WIITHHINNNNNNNHAHAloljk gently caress brown people"

Don Dongington
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GoldStandardConure posted:

slimes change colour depending on the level of your character and the region of the world you are in.

This trap is well sprung.

Don Dongington
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So based on Murdoch's propensity to outright lie about polling results on election days in favour of whoever he wants to win, in order to energise their support base, ALP going to win comfortably?

Don Dongington
Sep 27, 2005

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I'm the 3 months of dumb gently caress snug hot takes by idiot closet conservatives itt.

Don Dongington
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Anidav posted:

I feel sorry for all those people who fled Queensland under Newman only to watch Every other state turn blue for no good reason :smug:

WA, the ACT and NT would all like a word, scrunty.

Edit: how many Greens do you have in your upper house ohwait

Don Dongington
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Anidav posted:

We don't need an upper house because we have full faith our government will do the right thing for Guatam Adani

Don Dongington
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BBJoey posted:

so is this analysis informed by anything or

rofl

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Anidav posted:

RDN is probably the worst thing to happen to The Greens and they are lucky there isn't wind behind such experiments like the Victorian Socialists because a true and well funded socialist party would mop the floor with this centrist flirtation going on.

A lot of people loving hated Christine Milne. I don't know why Adam Bandt didn't get the leadership, because he seems like he'd suck less.

Don Dongington
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If you ever have any doubt how loving worthless Australian journalists are, just ask them to comment on international politics.

Get ready to shout WROOONGGGGGG.

Don Dongington
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Konomex posted:

Just had a thought, is there anyone in the new SA Liberal government that has ever actually been in government before? Or is SA about to experience what happens when you're lead by total novices?

Pretty sure SA has had plenty of experience with that since 2013.

Don Dongington
Sep 27, 2005

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Batman is totally going to reach Trump-levels of restrospective assplay isn't it.

I mean, these things are rarely attributed to just one thing. There are so many factors in play that it's not really worth breaking your neck trying to analyse it and find somebody to blame.
Like, off the top of my head:

o Ged Kearney WAS a good candidate. The ALP responded correctly to a challenge from the left by going left.
o Leaks and criticism of Alex Bhatal as an establishment politician in the making really wouldn't have helped.
o David Feeney probably had as much to do with the trending swing towards the Greens as Alex Bhatal did.
o The ALP are wholesale more popular across the country than they were in 2016. If the election were held today, they would sweep the Coalition off the electoral map

It really is a shame, because I feel like getting a second MHR will really be a turning point for the Greens. Hopefully it does happen soon.

Don Dongington
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freebooter posted:

Ports, Wills and Batman will go Green in the next few electoral cycles. It's just a matter of when. Expect to see Labor continue to drop Kearny types into the elections to try to peel voters back from the Greens, Danby will be next.

Change from.. without?

Don Dongington
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Auspol is just garbage, but more frightening is that it's still less of a shitshow than the US and UK jfc

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Don Dongington
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gay picnic defence posted:

This way the people can let the free market decide who puts out their bushfires

Real world effect: Arson up 160% this quarter,

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