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https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/trump-bucks-promise-wealth-maga-loyalty-lose-thousands-rcna84965 Trump Bucks that you can redeem for tens of times the face value are conning people. Even banks are turning people trying to redeem them.
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Captain_Maclaine posted:The Polynesian contact theory is a legit thing, but it's pretty much at the level of "entirely plausible hypothetical for which we currently have no hard evidence." They had the capacity and a history of exploratory voyages westward whenever population pressures on whatever islands they occupied got too much, and were entirely capable of reaching the western coast of South American from Hawaii, but to date I don't know of anyone finding any solid evidence they actually did it. There's some soft cultural similarities here and there that you can see if you want to between them and some subsets of indigenous South Americans, but nothing that couldn't also just be coincidental simultaneous developments by both parties. The existence of sweet potatoes in Polynesia isn't conclusive but it is compelling
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Vahakyla posted:https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/trump-bucks-promise-wealth-maga-loyalty-lose-thousands-rcna84965 It’s wild that everyone is so worried about how social media affects kids while their grandparents are apparently posting themselves into a full-scale break with reality. Did talk radio produce these kinds of insane delusions back in the 90s?
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Bill Cooper likely influenced Tim McVeigh into blowing up a government building, and Cooper was constantly promoting every kind of "put your money in X, which the feds can't constitutionally touch" scam, so it's very likely.
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I AM GRANDO posted:It’s wild that everyone is so worried about how social media affects kids while their grandparents are apparently posting themselves into a full-scale break with reality. It's amazing how the modern GOP is a mix of utterly delusional true believers and transparent conmen just in it for the grift. These elements have always been there, but are steadily gaining more and more power. Scamming the elderly has always been lucrative your targeting a demographic that is both unfamiliar with changing technology and potentially experiencing cognitive decline. At this point it wouldn't surprise me if Trump fun bux actually had a connection with the man himself. If it was anyone else they would be worried about it hurting the gravy train he already has, but the more he cheats his own fans the more they seem to love him.
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I dont know posted:the more he cheats his own fans the more they seem to love him. quote:Donald Trump released a second iteration of his NFT trading cards on Tuesday and despite bragging about making $4.6m the actual value of the cards dropped significantly. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2fwSO0IGyX8
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Not sure if people are aware of the "Apes" phenomenon that has arisen on reddit as an outgrowth of the Wallstreetbets memestocks: There's an SA thread here: https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=4042825&userid=0&perpage=40&highlight=ape&pagenumber=1 Pretty solid video on it from folding ideas (line goes up guy) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5pYeoZaoWrA He directly contrasts with Qanon at one point and says he doesn't see much overlap, but I see a lot of the same behaviors - interpreting vague signals from public figures and decoding them, and endless wait for a day that prophecy that is never fulfilled, an insular community with built in reinforcement mechanisms in the culture, myriad shibboleths and in-group jargon, a syncretic belief structure that is constantly morphing and re-interpreting past events.
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Those are just standard conspiracy cult behaviors. I think what he meant by there not being a lot of overlap that these are not exactly the same people doing both at once.
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pseudanonymous posted:Not sure if people are aware of the "Apes" phenomenon that has arisen on reddit as an outgrowth of the Wallstreetbets memestocks: I was thinking the same thing when I saw the video. This is Qanon for the stock market. I just can't wrap my head around it. This or Qanon. It's like seeing three lines of different length on the board and seeing every one else in the room say the 2nd longest line is the longest. I've seen explanation after explanation of the phenomenon. Why are these people not seeing the absurdity of their own beliefs? I feel like the apes are addicted to copium. I feel like Qanon are addicted to copium too. They wanted Trump because he promised them what they want, an end to everything they hate: liberals, Washington corruption, my kids who won't talk to me. As Trump demonstrated himself to be a child in a man's body with little interest in governing and no talent to accomplish anything, they became arsonists. They clung to Q in the hopes that their delusions could become reality. The apes are clinging to meme stocks for the same reason and I feel bad for family member's who have lost wealth from Apes stealing to buy more worthless stocks.
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Clarste posted:Those are just standard conspiracy cult behaviors. I think what he meant by there not being a lot of overlap that these are not exactly the same people doing both at once. I think what links them more strongly then most cults and differentiates them, is their digital nature and dependence on social media, and fundamentally their lack of a single organizing charismatic leader. Though it would be interesting to contrast them with JFK assassination people, flat Earthers and UFO believers.
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Zoeb posted:I was thinking the same thing when I saw the video. This is Qanon for the stock market. Good news, Dan Olsen (folding ideas) did a video on qanon too! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JTfhYyTuT44
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pseudanonymous posted:Not sure if people are aware of the "Apes" phenomenon that has arisen on reddit as an outgrowth of the Wallstreetbets memestocks: Ahem (2 and a half years ago): Murgos posted:Not directly Q related but has anyone been following the $GME pump and dump being executed by r/WallStreetBets? Edit: I actually posted this on Jan 20, 2021 so well ahead of the peak madness. Murgos fucked around with this message at 03:36 on Oct 9, 2023 |
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Captain_Maclaine posted:The Polynesian contact theory is a legit thing, but it's pretty much at the level of "entirely plausible hypothetical for which we currently have no hard evidence." They had the capacity and a history of exploratory voyages westward whenever population pressures on whatever islands they occupied got too much, and were entirely capable of reaching the western coast of South American from Hawaii, but to date I don't know of anyone finding any solid evidence they actually did it. There's some soft cultural similarities here and there that you can see if you want to between them and some subsets of indigenous South Americans, but nothing that couldn't also just be coincidental simultaneous developments by both parties. There's genetic evidence, that in combination with some of the other less definite things means it's almost certainly a thing that happened. It's easter island tho, not Hawaii. Telsa Cola fucked around with this message at 22:24 on Oct 8, 2023 |
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exmachina posted:Good news, Dan Olsen (folding ideas) did a video on qanon too! I've been on a general Dan Olsen watchathon recently and came to this one today. Halfway through when it transitions from flat earthism to Q, the idea is that a lot of the same people moved over to a new version of the same poo poo. So where are those people now? Q stuff in general seems way less prevalent now - but maybe I'm just ignorant to it! - so, like, what's next?
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Anno posted:I've been on a general Dan Olsen watchathon recently and came to this one today. Halfway through when it transitions from flat earthism to Q, the idea is that a lot of the same people moved over to a new version of the same poo poo. So where are those people now? Q stuff in general seems way less prevalent now - but maybe I'm just ignorant to it! - so, like, what's next? Q metamorphosed into gay panic, banning books, and killing teachers, which became mainstream republican positions in ‘22.
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I AM GRANDO posted:Q metamorphosed into gay panic, banning books, and killing teachers, which became mainstream republican positions in ‘22. Yeah I suppose that makes sense. No need for a new relatively hidden conspiracy theory when you can just practice openly. I just thought there would be a new "end of the world" type literally-a-Christian-doomsday-cult thing going rather than "only" traditional fascism.
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Jethro posted:That transition to part 2 is a killer. Legitimately the greatest rugpull I've ever experienced.
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Telsa Cola posted:There's genetic evidence, that in combination with some of the other less definite things means it's almost certainly a thing that happened. Do you have any links to genetic studies on this? Last time I went looking I couldn't find anything that wasn't either speculative or just unreliable.
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Captain_Maclaine posted:Do you have any links to genetic studies on this? Last time I went looking I couldn't find anything that wasn't either speculative or just unreliable. https://www.nature.com/articles/s41586-020-2487-2 I don't agree with some of their claims, but what they present looks solid enough to me to say that there was enough intermingling for it to show up genetically. But if you are a geneticist and there is something fundamental wrong with what they did lemme know. I don't really handle the genetic side of archaeology. Also as far as I know there hasn't been a rebuttal paper on it.
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Telsa Cola posted:https://www.nature.com/articles/s41586-020-2487-2 Sadly no, I'm a historian so I can't speak to the substance; when I teach world history I usually reference the Polynesian contact hypothesis as one of the actual/probably pre-Colobian contacts of the outside world with the Americas, and to-date I've always framed it as I posted above. Presuming this study stands, I'll need to amend that bit of the class.
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Sweet potato cultivation across the Pacific is another bit of evidence that supports the theory of contact between the Polynesians and the South Americans.
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As I recall there's nothing to suggest a deliberate transportation of seeds so much as it matches the rotation of the globe / seeds live pretty long in water. Still shows that there's potential for boat travel.
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Elon Musk made a lovely joke and posted ”Q*Anon” on twitter. I wanna see crazies.
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It's something I've noticed you see a lot with the internet and right wing subcultures, but basically atheists and secularists keep reinventing apocalyptic Christianity just with less overt religious elements. The Apes and QAnon are just messianic doomsday cults, just as the Singularity was before it.
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Vahakyla posted:Elon Musk made a lovely joke and posted ”Q*Anon” on twitter. I wanna see crazies. Mostly just freaks like this: 
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RoboChrist 9000 posted:It's something I've noticed you see a lot with the internet and right wing subcultures, but basically atheists and secularists keep reinventing apocalyptic Christianity just with less overt religious elements. The Apes and QAnon are just messianic doomsday cults, just as the Singularity was before it.
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Vahakyla posted:Elon Musk made a lovely joke and posted ”Q*Anon” on twitter. I wanna see crazies. They all seem to be seeing the * as holding special meaning... Any ideas what it represents in their worldview?
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It probably was but honestly it's hard to tell what Musk is thinking ever since taking over Twitter and getting made fun of constantly turned his brain into fondue.
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I AM GRANDO posted:Was it meant as a Q*bert joke when he posted it? a reference to the new AI by OpenAI that is supposedly called Q*
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Yeah but they were replies like " he used the asterisk he knows exactly what he's doing. "
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Leon Sumbitches posted:They all seem to be seeing the * as holding special meaning... Any ideas what it represents in their worldview? Like everything else with Q it is a wildcard that shifts in meaning at the drop of a hat, always coming back to "I was always right and my doubters and nay sayers are silent." The goalpost is on wheels. It's like a how random noises that come out of Donald Trump's brain hole are genius 9 dimensional chess predictions about the future. Like how he idly speculated that one day all currencies would equal the dollar, which led to q people falling for the Iraqi Dinar grift or how Trump speculated that if bleach kills COVID, what if we put bleach in the body which was a boon for that cult that sells bleach for people to drink.
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Leon Sumbitches posted:They all seem to be seeing the * as holding special meaning... Any ideas what it represents in their worldview? It distinguishes between “Q” and “anons”. It is a nod to their attempt to claim “there is no Qanon, there is Q, and there are anons” (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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Bucky Fullminster posted:It distinguishes between “Q” and “anons”. I saw Q and the Anons open for Clem Snide way back.
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