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crepeface
Nov 5, 2004

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double nine posted:

it's kind of spectacular watching europe destroy its own energy supplies & thus industry in real time with the full support of its elites.

this terrorist destuction of the pipelines is incredibly brazen and yet not a peep towards the most likely culprid USA

it owns

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crepeface
Nov 5, 2004

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https://twitter.com/FRANCE24/status/1585494516089622528?t=L-TTWmK3ttD4SFg968nToA&s=19

if they protested about lunch imagine what they'll do about this

crepeface
Nov 5, 2004

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https://twitter.com/ChallengeYCL/status/1636516632137801728?s=20

authouritarian eurolords at it again

crepeface
Nov 5, 2004

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Carthag Tuek posted:

i would love a world where only centrists pissed me off

what a dream

idk how much of a centrist she is

https://covertactionmagazine.com/20...-to-know-about/

crepeface
Nov 5, 2004

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lmfao, the perfidious gaul!

crepeface
Nov 5, 2004

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https://twitter.com/RnaudBertrand/status/1674959206422806528?t=t6Z1wKW2ctMdzI5uOdztJw&s=19

how bad are things in France because this sounds pretty bad

crepeface
Nov 5, 2004

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Jeff Fatwood posted:

Am I reading you wrong? Did he post nazi poo poo or not?

no theyre just joking around. lollontree was a good poster, but alas he could not help himself and politics posted too much outside the designated politics posting zones

crepeface
Nov 5, 2004

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paying attention to Europe since the Ukraine/Russia war has really crystalized what a dogshit continent it is

crepeface
Nov 5, 2004

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by Russian money you mean the Kremlin or bourgeois buying influence with the money they made in Russia?

crepeface
Nov 5, 2004

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Mr Hootington posted:

Germany just announced they were increasing defense spending too and that they would have to find ways to fund that.

it usually works out well when Germany implements austerity and increasing military spending

crepeface
Nov 5, 2004

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Carthag Tuek posted:

single issue idiocy ftw

democracy, more like idiocracy am i right guys

crepeface
Nov 5, 2004

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R. Mute posted:

so euro politics update as far as I know:
Spain: far right victory
Italy: fascist in power
France: they can't keep out le pen forever
Belgium: Flemish far right party eyeing reaching 50% of the Flemish vote along with the slightly less far right party
Netherlands: government gone, pseudo-fascist farmer party expected to surge
Finland: far right in power
Hungary: far right in power
Germany: fascists surging
Poland: far right in power
Ukraine: ...
Denmark: social democrats turning fascist

don't know the rest of them. but it's not looking good, is it?

europe: the fail continent

crepeface
Nov 5, 2004

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SplitSoul posted:

Whole bunch of customers over the years at the neo-nazi Nordic Resistance Movement's webshop got doxxed.

crepeface
Nov 5, 2004

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it's fuhrer's turn

crepeface
Nov 5, 2004

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PERPETUAL IDIOT posted:

There is definitely a fash movement in Greece, especially bad among the youth, but it's still basically the same country that voted for (what was presented as) a socialist government to try to destroy the EU, and got backstabbed for their trouble. The real, no-bullshit Communist party, the same one that crushed its Eurocommunist splitters into irrelevance, still gets around 5%-10% of the vote nationally and mayoralities in major cities.

So, bad, but things could change quick.

greece is in europe (the fail continent) so things won't get better

crepeface
Nov 5, 2004

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It's in the EU therefore it's part of the fail crew

crepeface
Nov 5, 2004

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A Buttery Pastry posted:

the scandal here is that here brought something that belongs in the bedroom into the public.

lol

crepeface
Nov 5, 2004

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lmfao

https://twitter.com/Somali_ICS/status/1701727042520203424?s=20

crepeface
Nov 5, 2004

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green transition going well!

crepeface
Nov 5, 2004

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Noosphere posted:

If anything, the Swiss electorate consistently voting against their own interests is a perfect illustration that even with functioning direct democracy, propaganda funded by monied interests still directs things. For some phases of the political process, the play isn't to buy politicians, but to drum up fear amongst the voting population. Jobs ! Immigration ! Number ! Every single time an initiative or referendum is brought where the "left" option has a chance of winning, the same drums are beaten until public opinion slowly but surely slips below the threshold. It's maddening.

This election cycle is the first where parties had to (incompletely) disclose their funding. No surprise, the FDP and the SVP have far more funding than the rest.

One issue that cropped up is the splitting of the left : in some cantons, there was an unholy center to far right alliance, where the Center (center-right, some "pro-family" policies which make them vote with the socialists once in a while), FDP (neoliberal right) and SVP (far right) campaigned together, encouraging people to share votes amongst their lists. Contrast this with my canton (Vaud), where the broad left competed with the PS (euro-socialists), Greens, Ensemble à Gauche (left-liberals, if I'm being uncharitable), PdA all scrambling for votes from a far narrower ideological spectrum. And as a result, the far left parties narrowly missed out on getting seats. Certainly if they'd run a unified list, EàG and the PdA could have put a candidate in parliament between them. Alas, the left splits and the right marches in lockstep.

that doesn't sound like a functioning democracy at all!

crepeface
Nov 5, 2004

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king fail country on the fail continent

crepeface
Nov 5, 2004

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Mister Bates posted:

the Dutch Socialist Party used to be named 'Communist Party of the Netherlands (Marxist-Leninist)' and was a Maoist party that split from another Maoist party because they (the splitters) didn't think intellectuals should be allowed to join

they have since moved so far to the right that they kicked their own youth organization out of the party en masse for being 'infiltrated by communist radicals'

:eyepop:

crepeface
Nov 5, 2004

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thank god they don't so I won't be subjected to CCP propaganda

crepeface
Nov 5, 2004

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3D Megadoodoo posted:

Better hope no Chinese rich person gets arrested or mildly inconvenienced in the US during your visit, American CIA operative.

:dafuq:

yeah those drat chinese get treated so well in america

edit: china gbs thread poster :roflolmao:

crepeface has issued a correction as of 07:30 on Nov 28, 2023

crepeface
Nov 5, 2004

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europe is fail

crepeface
Nov 5, 2004

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quote:

Insane, manufacturing and service PMI in France is so bad it's approaching COVID shutdown levels. Same picture in Germany and several other European countries.

Europe is really losing on all sides these days: losing its cheap energy from Russia, losing whatever remained of its manufacturing to the US with the Inflation Reduction Act, losing its relations with the Global South due to its gobsmacking geopolitical incompetence, losing the next generation with plummetting education levels (check the latest OECD PISA results), losing the innovation and R&D race to the US and China, just losing, losing, losing.

And there's no-one, absolutely no-one that I can see in the political spectrum in any of the major European countries who seem to have the beginning of a start of a appealing vision to restore things. All I can see is either denial ("we're not losing"), blame the immigrants (as if they had anything to do with any of this), blame Russia or China, or some ludicrously naïve proposals like "let's embrace degrowth".

And that's the real issue: we lose so much because Europe has stunningly incompetent leadership who simply don't know what to do.

https://twitter.com/RnaudBertrand/status/1736762863514223026?t=O1_tCBE5QlkdY5Q2I7y3-g&s=19

[Europe] losing, losing, losing.

crepeface
Nov 5, 2004

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Tankbuster posted:

lmao extraterritorial rights. Unequal treaties eh?

crepeface
Nov 5, 2004

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lol is this for real?

quote:

Also, any "agitation against supposed 'imperialism' and 'militarism" and any "rejection of nation states and the European Union" should be put on the index of banned organisations. The Administrative Court even declared it unconstitutional to "denigrate" the Bundeswehr (Armed Forces) and the secret service "as undemocratic and directed against the population."

https://twitter.com/2persian2darius/status/1737981909311857134?t=JTGLU_fD010jenZGq9qKsg&s=19

https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2022/07/12/ymxu-j12.html


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The SGP is appealing to the Supreme Court after the Berlin Administrative Court ruled that the SGP’s surveillance by the Secret Service is appropriate, because, it claimed, left-wing criticism of capitalism is unconstitutional in Germany.

crepeface has issued a correction as of 07:20 on Dec 23, 2023

crepeface
Nov 5, 2004

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Regarde Aduck posted:

lol at hairsplitting, we're ok with you Turkish now, but the Arabs... oh heavens no. Using a weird attempt to sound progressive in order to springboard into overt racism.

lol i got mixed up between tabs, i thought you were posting that in the D&D EU thread

crepeface
Nov 5, 2004

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webcams for christ posted:

"women couldn't vote nationwide in Switzerland until 1990" gets so many good reactions lmao

lol wtf

crepeface
Nov 5, 2004

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Horseshoe theory posted:

quote:

Modern history
Appenzell Innerrhoden was the last canton in Switzerland to grant women the right to vote on local issues, being forced to do so only in 1990 when two women from Appenzell filed a lawsuit in the Swiss Federal Court and won. A centuries-old law forbidding women to vote was changed in 1991, when Switzerland's federal court ordered the canton to grant women the right to vote.[7]

Appenzell Innerrhoden was the canton with the smallest percentage of approval votes (at 50.8% compared to the Swiss-wide average of 64.1%) in the "Marriage for All" referendum completed on 26 September 2021, making it the most hesitant canton for equal marriage for gay and lesbian citizens.[8][9]


drat, lesbians can no longer get innerrhoden pretend they don't want to get married because of the law.

crepeface
Nov 5, 2004

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oh my god dexit would be even funnier than brexit has been

crepeface
Nov 5, 2004

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it's time for the eurofranc

crepeface
Nov 5, 2004

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mila kunis posted:

I've long held that the standards of living in america's vassal states in europe are too high. They need to start getting the latin america treatment, that they've walked into the beginning of this process willingly by cutting themselves off from cheap energy supplies is pretty funny

that's stupid, do you really think america is just going to hang europe out to dry :laugh:

crepeface
Nov 5, 2004

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webcams for christ posted:

reads like they're pausing regulatory approval on the expansion or creation of new LNG export facilities, not limiting existing export operations

lol, reads like a pointed reminder that they hold the dagger floating over their heads. i know i definitely wouldn't be accelerating any plans i may have had to move my factory out of europe!

crepeface
Nov 5, 2004

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Honest Thief posted:

https://www.project-syndicate.org/o...fevlSEb6nyuY%3d

Varoufakis new article on the shaping of the Eu was really interesting with some insight how this poo poo show got up

idk enough about the EU or finance but i had a sad lol @ the conclusion:

quote:

Today, both Delors’ and Schäuble’s visions lay in ruins, as if in a Greek tragedy. The way the euro crisis was managed put paid to Delors’ vision of a Europe in the image of a social-democratic Greater France, and it ruined Schäuble’s attempt to safeguard the postwar model at the heart of a fiscally sovereign Germany that continues to lose itself in a mercantilist Europe.

Back when the euro was still on the drawing board, neither Delors nor Schäuble could have imagined, or would condone, Europe’s inane response to the euro’s inevitable crisis. The combination of massive austerity and monetary largesse that preserved the eurozone in its original format, which both Delors and Schäuble correctly deemed unviable, is the reason why Europe is now politically fragmented and in secular decline. History, once more, proved a cruel master of noteworthy Europeans who refused to see that Europe’s interests are in direct opposition to the interests of its ruling classes.

crepeface has issued a correction as of 16:58 on Jan 26, 2024

crepeface
Nov 5, 2004

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Lostconfused posted:

economic collapse WITH covid.

crepeface
Nov 5, 2004

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lollin' at the attitude that still exists in europeans

crepeface posted:

https://www.reuters.com/world/what-we-know-about-italian-development-plan-africa-2024-01-29/

quote:

ROME, Jan 29 (Reuters) - The Italian government unveiled at a summit on Monday details of a long-awaited project aimed at boosting development in Africa, hoping it will help spark economic growth that will curb irregular immigration to Europe.

Here are the main points of the "Mattei Plan" - named after the late Enrico Mattei, who founded state oil company Eni - as outlined by Prime Minister Giorgia Meloni.

AREAS OF INTERVENTION
The Italian plan will be developed along five main policy pillars: education and training; agriculture; health; water; and energy - which is the most significant for Rome.

The aim is to make Italy an energy hub to transport natural gas supplies from Africa to the rest of Europe, with Italian energy major Eni set to play a key role in the initiative.

The government said it wanted to strengthen energy efficiency and promote the use of renewable energies.

Meloni listed an array of small pilot projects in the various segments, including a centre for training on renewable energy in Morocco, redevelopment of Tunisian schools, improving primary care for mothers and children in Ivory Coast, supporting farmers in northern Egypt, developing the biofuels sector in Kenya, an agriculture monitoring project in Algeria and work on water networks in the Congo Republic.

The prime minister said education was key to success, because Africa needed to train its own professionals to build schools, hospitals and infrastructure. She also said agriculture was crucial to development, and that Italy would aim to offer technology to increase the amount of cultivatable land.

FUNDING
Meloni said Italy would set aside an initial 5.5 billion euros ($5.95 billion) for the Mattei plan, including public guarantees for investment projects and 3 billion euros from a climate fund set up in 2021 to promote international environmental projects.

She said Rome was also looking to involve international financial institutions, the European Union and other nations in the financing of the plan.
Meloni said her government would also work with state-lender Cassa Depositi e Prestiti (CDP) on a new financial tool to lure private investment into the Mattei plan.

CDP and state investment agencies SACE and SIMEST, will open new offices in Africa, including in Morocco and Egypt. The Foreign Ministry said it had prepared a new package of subsidised financing for Africa totalling 200 million euros.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y3Jr7fDAP-w

diplomatic "hey gently caress you, you didn't consult us about your plans"

crepeface
Nov 5, 2004

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https://twitter.com/POLITICOEurope/status/1757291059724333361?t=wBqs46vkzb_FUx6DNJmnOw&s=19

lol you poor bastards

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crepeface
Nov 5, 2004

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webcams for christ posted:

not even the right nations to be targeting lmao

this is just a fig leaf to be hawkish against China et al, at the expense of the European population.

from the FT in May 2023:





here's the right nation:

US resumes Russian oil imports, defies sanctions

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