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Main Paineframe posted:shareholders love mass layoffs, because there's a general presumption that all the least profitable teams and least efficient workers are getting fired, leaving only the most productive and valuable workers to work on the company's most important profit centers. so they'll assume that number will surely go up as a result, and will stop bothering the company's execs for a couple of quarters I mean, you can convince yourself of that when it's like a % of the company and divisions are otherwise left intact but cut people. But cutting entire divisions, including the teams in charge of new products is just crazy poo poo. No shareholder should see that and think "wow, this is a company I think has long-term viability!"
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counterpoint: the entire history of public investment in tesla to date
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Nitrousoxide posted:I mean, you can convince yourself of that when it's like a % of the company and divisions are otherwise left intact but cut people. robots and robotic minded bean counters just recrunch their numbers with a better-looking balance sheet and a higher stock price pops out. "does this actually improve the business's viability" is not a substantial consideration (or one at all) in that type of calculation.
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to be clear, we're talking about a company that had its main production line in a tent for years that was valued higher than almost every automaker on earth, combined
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fermun posted:tesla fixed the one weird trick my work used to use to get rush delivery on stuff, they used to let you put the requested delivery date for things you ordered in the past and the further in the past that you requested the delivery date, then the more overdue it would show up in their system and your order would go higher up in their queue. you could get parts shipping next day doing this by requesting a delivery date like 6 months ago quoting because this is great. also bet that their homemade erp systems handled this in correct, gaap way when they did revenue reporting needle pointing more to incompetence instead of fraud on the gauge because it seems like it would be detrimental to backdate but idk
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qirex posted:meltdown may is the most wonderful time of the year
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Sagebrush posted:what is his goal? why is he taking apart his own company? I think he went to execs and told them to identify who to layoff. Some execs, like the charger people, came back with "it doesn't make sense to lay anyone off on my team", and Elon is retaliating against that entire segment of the org. That's how I interpret this email that went out when he cut those two teams, anyway. quote:"Hopefully these actions are making it clear that we need to be absolutely hard-core about headcount and cost reduction. While some on exec staff are taking this seriously, most are not yet doing so," Musk wrote to employees. Musk also told staff that he would ask for the resignation of any executive "who retains more than three people who don't obviously pass the excellent, necessary and trustworthy test."
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Sagebrush please come in and correct me here but isn't a problem with die casting that you can get air trapped in it which embeds structural weakness in the cast object? I'm trying to remember my manufacturing lectures from 20 years ago here and it was like this and the "tap it with a coin and if it's a dull sounds it's hosed" thing....! posted:he's mad he's not getting his $56 billion and this is his tantrum over it lol he's pivoting to "pay me or I stay"
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you can't not reduce headcount! you will regret this!
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wait, couldn't tesla save $70b by firing elon musk?
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infernal machines posted:wait, couldn't tesla save $70b by firing elon musk? only in a gaap sense
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that's some "the emperor has no Clothes" stuff right there. "some execs told me I should not fire the entire critical team for these products as they are important, this is not hard core so I fired them and their department"
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Pinterest Mom posted:only in a gaap sense Gaap of my rear end maybe
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Pinterest Mom posted:only in a gaap sense well there are now plenty of gaaps in tesla
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infernal machines posted:to be clear, we're talking about a company that had its main production line in a tent for years that was valued higher than almost every automaker on earth, combined that was a tentfold increase in throughput
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Powerful Two-Hander posted:Gaap of my rear end maybe
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Chris Knight posted:what is that man doing to his company?! definitely no ring in this scenario though
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Beeftweeter posted:good lord that's gotta be expensive lol nah. tesla cars are steeply discounted now. he could just get a new one
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anyhow. Elon really should pull more poo poo like this. keeps me entertained
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Chris Knight posted:what is that man doing to his company?! he's quietly shutting down the minor "automobile manufacturing" part of tesla. good luck if you own one of those cars lol
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statistically, what fraction of companies come out of the other side of mass layoffs continuing to grow and expanding profit? how many is it a sign their growth has stopped and it’s a long downhill slump into irrelevance?
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people hated his new truck so he's throwing a fit and is going to stop making cars and focus on ai lmao
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Jose Valasquez posted:people hated his new truck so he's throwing a fit and is going to stop making cars and focus on ai lmao yeah that seems to be my read as well. it’s full into futurism boondoggles. robotaxis, ai, robots. which, lmao i’m sure it’ll turn out great.
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fermun posted:tesla fixed the one weird trick my work used to use to get rush delivery on stuff, they used to let you put the requested delivery date for things you ordered in the past and the further in the past that you requested the delivery date, then the more overdue it would show up in their system and your order would go higher up in their queue. you could get parts shipping next day doing this by requesting a delivery date like 6 months ago lmao
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Jose Valasquez posted:people hated his new truck so he's throwing a fit and is going to stop making cars and focus on ai lmao this is imo one of the likelier answers. he did his best [such as it is given his personality and habits] and everyone hates it and the only people who bought one did it only to make youtubes about how much it sucks
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fermun posted:tesla fixed the one weird trick my work used to use to get rush delivery on stuff, they used to let you put the requested delivery date for things you ordered in the past and the further in the past that you requested the delivery date, then the more overdue it would show up in their system and your order would go higher up in their queue. you could get parts shipping next day doing this by requesting a delivery date like 6 months ago i wonder what would have happened if you submitted an order with a negative price this sounds like bitcoin dark markets level of competence
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there's a reason every other big company uses an actual erp system in spite of how expensive and annoying they are
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he’s going to fire all the engineers with institutional knowledge and hire all the desperate victims of the recent tech layoffs and fresh grads who still haven’t secured jobs for way less salary the perfect staffing plan
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Not a Children posted:he’s going to fire all the engineers with institutional knowledge and hire all the desperate victims of the recent tech layoffs and fresh grads who still haven’t secured jobs for way less salary it worked for twitter
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worked great for oceangate, i wish elon’s sub the best of luck
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Powerful Two-Hander posted:Sagebrush please come in and correct me here but isn't a problem with die casting that you can get air trapped in it which embeds structural weakness in the cast object? I'm trying to remember my manufacturing lectures from 20 years ago here and it was like this and the "tap it with a coin and if it's a dull sounds it's hosed" thing. voids can be a problem with any sort of casting process (and with plastic molding for that matter), but die casting is more prone to them. you are trying to get the molten metal to flow through a mold super quickly and harden as fast as possible so you can decrease your cycle time. simultaneously the moving metal must force the air in the mold cavity out through vents. if the metal doesn't fill the cavity completely before it becomes too solid to flow, or if the air gets mixed into the wave of metal, welp. less of a problem with e.g. sand casting because the metal is poured in slowly, the sand is semi-porous (so air can escape), and the whole thing stays molten for several minutes while it settles and bubbles rise to the surface and stuff. more of a problem when your die casting requires shooting 600 pounds of liquid aluminum all at once into a mold the size of a hot tub and cooling the whole mass down to a solid in less than 90 seconds. getting a solid, fully-formed, homogeneous casting on every cycle as quickly as possible is where all the engineering goes. voids are a fatal flaw in a casting that has to meet specific mechanical performance standards, yes. Sagebrush fucked around with this message at 01:26 on May 2, 2024 |
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apparently they were xraying every gigacast part at germany/china plants but that sounds expensive for something that is probably ok
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rotor posted:yeah no that is horseshit, i'm just sayin that at that point in time it was easier to just write thing that listened on a port than it was to set up a real webserver it was definitely harder back then in a lot of ways, especially if you needed to run online apps with CGI or whatthefuckever, and i can definitely imagine elong writing a perl script that responded to port 80 and thinking "i wrote a web server!" cuz he's a fuckin moron but even then, as a complete dipshit, i installed o'reilly website and got the fundamentals working by double-clicking the icon
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Sagebrush posted:voids can be a problem with any sort of casting process (and with plastic molding for that matter), but die casting is more prone to them. also if you'll recall they had a lot of problems with smaller castings looking like honeycombs
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I hope this means we're in the "Lowtax closes FYAD" part of the speedrun except it's Ketamine instead of Koala's March
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rotor posted:i had not heard of this process before and maybe you hadnt either so heres a thing quote:Robotics, automation, industry 4.0, and blockchain all have impacts on the efficiency, cadence, and support networks of modern assembly plants. 
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qirex posted:there's a reason every other big company uses an actual erp system in spite of how expensive and annoying they are would you all loving stop saying erp because all i can read is erotic roleplay
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Sagebrush posted:what is his goal? why is he taking apart his own company? they thought elon doesn't deserve $55 billion because he can't do 5 jobs at once well, wait til they see him try to do 5,000 jobs at once
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Pinterest Mom posted:I think he went to execs and told them to identify who to layoff. Some execs, like the charger people, came back with "it doesn't make sense to lay anyone off on my team", and Elon is retaliating against that entire segment of the org. God help you if your livelihood is reliant on things elon musk considers obvious
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