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Cerebral Bore
Apr 21, 2010


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It's very simple: Cynthia is going to win because the pundits think that there's no way she will, and the pundits are wrong about everything.

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Cerebral Bore
Apr 21, 2010


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Over Easy posted:

Why won't these liberals just shut the gently caress up?

They feel like political power and respect is owed to them.

Cerebral Bore
Apr 21, 2010


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Dairy Tariff posted:

is matty's brain too big and veiny for you to handle~ :smugdog::pipe:

The orblike smoothness of Matty's brain has a strange effect on those not privy to the mysteries of the lanyard.

Cerebral Bore
Apr 21, 2010


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cenotaph posted:

I think it's more insidious than just technocracy. There's definitely a strong undercurrent of aristocracy to it, like the person chosen by the ~meritocracy~ with the right ideas os clearly the best choice based and the challenger is an upstart prole, or is at least a tool of the upstart proles.

It's because they see elections not as a way for the people to wield actual power but as rituals to legitimize elite rule.

Cerebral Bore
Apr 21, 2010


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The cartoon dares to criticize the Democratic Party, and hence it's obviously bankrolled by Putin himself. Bing bong so simple.

Cerebral Bore
Apr 21, 2010


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anime was right posted:

ya they bought into their lie of berniebros so hard they didnt realize socialism polls better with women and poc lmao its amazing

They bought into the lie because they had to, but since the lib mind is incapable of admitting error they're still clinging onto the lie well after it's not only lost its effectiveness but has become a liability.

Cerebral Bore
Apr 21, 2010


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Shear Modulus posted:

oops i meant to say that the jews and other capitalists who werent also nazis who got their wealth expropriated by the party

Yea, and then they handed over that wealth to pro-nazi capitalists.

Cerebral Bore
Apr 21, 2010


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It's always as funny when some rightwing media outlet literally is doing AOC's campaigning for her.

Cerebral Bore
Apr 21, 2010


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Skypie posted:

Just saw this in the wild



loquacius posted:

"It is entirely possible that you might not want to vote for the person who I want you to vote for, for any of these extremely valid reasons. However, have you considered that I want you to vote for them?"

also I wonder what their reaction would be if the Dem nominee turned out to have some ideas w/r/t universal healthcare or free public college that they are uncomfortable with :thunk:

You know that these people will start talking themselves into voting for Trump the moment that Bernie gets the nomination.

Cerebral Bore
Apr 21, 2010


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Ghost Leviathan posted:

What makes you think they haven't already started?

Their absolute inability to acknowledge the fact that Bernie will be the next nominee?

Cerebral Bore
Apr 21, 2010


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Skypie posted:

i thought we were supposed to root for party unity?????

You see, party unity means that the establishment gets all the power and everybody has to support them unconditionally.

Cerebral Bore
Apr 21, 2010


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Wraith of J.O.I. posted:

smug poo poo like this is why even after a handful of good posts every so often, this fucker still succs

https://twitter.com/mattyglesias/status/1022195356963151874?s=21

There might be or there might not, but either way Matty wouldn't know poo poo about it.

Cerebral Bore
Apr 21, 2010


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Over Easy posted:

How could they not know how lovely it is when they did it?

Living in a bubble is one hell of a drug.

Cerebral Bore
Apr 21, 2010


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This actually is a valid comparison, though?

Cerebral Bore
Apr 21, 2010


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Pharohman777 posted:

I was confused for a long while because it all seems hinged on what he 'didn't' do, instead of what he actually did that was racist. Its like the tweet a couple pages back that accused ocasio cortez of racism because she had no black people in her campaign staff or something.

Hillary knew she couldn't win on the issues so she decided she would win on smears. Ironically enough that's literally what she tried to do to Obama in 2008, except this time it worked.

Cerebral Bore
Apr 21, 2010


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i say swears online posted:

stolen from chinathread

https://twitter.com/CGTNOfficial/status/1022636434446942209

lol that slogan, how are they making hillary's mistakes

As it turns out Trump wasn't some genius unstoppable political avalanche, but a dumbass wasteman who lucked into a win because Hillary was the most abysmal candidate possible.

Cerebral Bore
Apr 21, 2010


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Gene Hackman Fan posted:

Are there going to be enough boomer-aged decorumcrats to outpace the millennial socialists, tho?

No. Ironically enough, if there is a voting bloc that the Democrats can afford to lose it's petty bourg coastal liberals.

Cerebral Bore
Apr 21, 2010


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Grondoth posted:

I can't even understand this. Someone's doing a job, how is this some sort of punishment for them? Do they not get paid or something? Hell, wouldn't it be economically stimulating to smash that star every day?

If you're petty bourg enough the very thought of manual labor seems like a punishment.

Cerebral Bore
Apr 21, 2010


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Main Paineframe posted:

Russia definitely did some poo poo and trying to outright deny it is stupid

the succ twitter takes is that the Russian involvement is an unprecedented scandal that stole the election and amounts to literal treason, when in reality, it's routine poo poo that domestic billionaires and foreign allies do all the goddamned time

the Russian involvement is real, the succ is just vastly overexaggerating its importance and impact. even if Trump was directly taking orders from Putin, un-sanctioning a few foreign billionaires and giving up on the outer fringes of the American Empire isn't exactly an existential threat to the country

And the prime succ is the idea that anybody who isn't 100% unconditionally supporting the Dem establishment is a secret Russian agent.

Cerebral Bore
Apr 21, 2010


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The vast majority of liberals are incapable of understanding that propaganda needs an element of truth in order to be effective and since they're universally incapable of both humility and learning from their mistakes they keep making it worse for themselves by angrily lashing out at people who call bullshit on their obvious lies.

Cerebral Bore
Apr 21, 2010


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Liberals accusing people who subscribe to other political ideologies of ignoring history is never going to stop being hilarious af.

Cerebral Bore
Apr 21, 2010


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SKULL.GIF posted:

everyone else who's tried the Trump route has gotten burned incredibly hard

It's because the Trump route only works when you completely lack even the most basic sense of shame.

Cerebral Bore
Apr 21, 2010


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Well I'll be damned, he actually turned left.

Cerebral Bore
Apr 21, 2010


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I know it's inadvertent and out of sheer stupidity, but still.

Cerebral Bore
Apr 21, 2010


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Wraith of J.O.I. posted:

for some more pure, uncut succ, check the replies to this tweet

https://twitter.com/danteatkins/status/1027237895164358657?s=21

lol that's some primo projection right there in them comments.

Cerebral Bore
Apr 21, 2010


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EugeneJ posted:

I dunno, the thought of a nationwide sit-in at country club parking lots producing video footage of poors getting beaten and dragged from the property so Mr. Richardson can keep his tee time is an attractive proposition

Invade their safe space

How about we have the poors beating and dragging Mr. Richardson to the guillotine instead?

Cerebral Bore
Apr 21, 2010


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Heh, maybe this lady should make some black friends so she can realize that they always agree 100% with what rich while liberals think :smuggo:

Cerebral Bore
Apr 21, 2010


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The reason why people don't care about Russia is because it's obvious that not even the succdems care in their heart of hearts. It's the same old story of the centrists screaming about how X is the worst and you need to support the Dems unquestioningly because of that while they themselves aren't acting in an even remotely appropriate manner to what one would expect if they really believed what they're saying.

Like, think about it, if the President is literally being mind controlled by a hostile foreign power, then wouldn't that be grounds for getting a gun and starting up the urban guerilla instead of writing a million outraged tweets a day? But they don't so how can you believe that they believe, and if you can't believe that then why believe the claim?

Cerebral Bore
Apr 21, 2010


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Accretionist posted:

It's an opportunity to gently caress up Republicans.

It's an instance of political corruption which may actually be dealt with.

How, exactly? Sending a bunch of low to mid-level flunkies to jail ain't gonna do poo poo to the oligarchy.

Cerebral Bore
Apr 21, 2010


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Accretionist posted:

Networks of low to mid-level flunkies is how you build an oligarchy. I expect they're the #1 you buy to buy out city governments, lobbying organizations and federal institutions

They're also easily replaceable, my man. There's zero chance that the whole Mueller investigation goes any further than taking out a tiny piece of half of the machine that's immediately going to be filled up with new players, and lol if you think the succdems are going to provided they win some elections, because they're the other half.

Cerebral Bore
Apr 21, 2010


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The real reason for why the Russia story matters is because the succdems have built a literal cult around it where not only even any amount of scepticism in but even insufficient enthusiasm for the chosen narrative is grounds for declaring somebody a secret Russian traitor who wants every possible bad thing simultaneously, cf. Accretionist for the past few pages ITT.

Essentially they're rerunning the whole Hillary 2016 script and it'll work about as well.

Cerebral Bore
Apr 21, 2010


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Accretionist posted:

Clinton failed because she's a hubris-addled nepotism case who ran an incompetent campaign and because Centrists prefer losing to moving left. How does defending Russia help with that messaging?

nobody's defending it you gargantuan dingus

Cerebral Bore
Apr 21, 2010


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Accretionist posted:

If this is where you guys were at, we wouldn't be having this discussion.

the only reason we're having this conversation is because your brain doesn't work hth

Cerebral Bore
Apr 21, 2010


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It's literally always succdems who start the Russia conversation every single time lol

Cerebral Bore
Apr 21, 2010


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Yeah, if that's true Keith can gently caress right off.

Cerebral Bore
Apr 21, 2010


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phasmid posted:

Also the so-called economic left is pretty similar in goals and methods to the republicans.

source u're quotes

Cerebral Bore
Apr 21, 2010


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phasmid posted:

Did I mess up the term? Isn't that what establishment dems who want to move to the right call *themselves*?

I think you're thinking of center-left.

Cerebral Bore
Apr 21, 2010


Fun Shoe

Well if they don't like it then maybe they should run against him in the primary :smug:

Cerebral Bore
Apr 21, 2010


Fun Shoe

lol this is some pivot alright

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Cerebral Bore
Apr 21, 2010


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It's pretty cool that the folks suffering from Sanders Derangement Syndrome have built a literal mythology around their mental illness.

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