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TROIKA CURES GREEK posted:3d printers will have made gun control efforts irrelevant in the next couple years, the idea that you can prevent gun files from being distributed with legislation is utterly laughable. The tech will continue to improve, become cheaper, and there's literally nothing you can do about it. You can make your own guns without a 3D printer. They aren't magic. If you can afford a 3D printer, you can afford to just buy a gun. We are still able to have gun laws. The entire issue is a red herring.
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zapplez posted:Its illegal to drive people over with vehicles, despite anyone with a credit card being able to rent a truck. Tell me more about the death toll from the typical mass shooting
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zapplez posted:I was specifically referencing the studies are out on the "copycat effect" and the part the media has to play about mass shooters. Whew, good thing you included easy as a qualifier. Can't put actual, like, effort into preventing murder or god knows where we might end up
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It's also worth pointing out that banning alcohol massively reduced the amount of consumption and thus the harm it was inflicting. It also created organized criminal syndicates. Win some, lose some.
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I like how after pages of gun and alcohol comparisons, your proposed laws dont include an age limit.
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zapplez posted:No I wouldnt argue that at all. Universal healthcare is a good thing everywhere. Don't just put words in my mouth. Indeed there is no difference between 1 and 50
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I would like to point out that the "Is America really safe??" idiocy was asked in response to whether a gun ban would work. I politely suggest that anyone asking whether gun laws can work in an area made unsafe by gun crime go gently caress themselves. What, precisely, is the alternative being offered to areas deemed "unsafe"? Abandon the rule of law in Chicago? Just go full Escape from New York with it?
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What happens when one of the highly trained, well vetted member of the military loses one of the U.S. government's guns Just curious, asking for a friend.
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In theory, you don't teach your kids how to open either the ammo container or the gun safe. In reality, you have to indoctrinate them to the cult of Gun as early as possible so by the time they can speak you have already told them about the great power you keep with your vault and taught them the combination to use "just in case"
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KingFisher posted:1. To address the shooting homicide rate between young men in urban settings, make possession of an illegally acquire gun or the commission of a crime with an illegaly acquired gun a double life sentence. Guys my dog just started barking but I dont hear anything It's like he can hear some kind of whistle
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ate poo poo on live tv posted:Lol "think of the children" is your argument. <.001% of american teens "live in fear of massacres." In fact I can only think of like 2 total, and one has gone full grifter. Teens organized the third largest protest in US history with over a million people speaking out for gun control.
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Dead Reckoning posted:Interpersonal violence is depressingly common in America. Being gunned down by an "assault weapon" wielding spree shooter is so staggeringly rare that it shouldn't merit major legal changes. Death by nuclear weapon and high explosive seem pretty rare nowadays, why cant I own those? Oh right because society has deemed it not worth the risk, much like it should for guns. Dead Reckoning posted:This is the correct way to run a society though. Perfect safety is not possible.
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Dead Reckoning posted:I mean, I don't think mass shootings are a good thing, but I also don't think anything that kills, on average, less than 100 people nationwide per year (at least according to the MoJo database) is worth curtailing everyone's rights over. How many would need to die to justify "curtailing everyone's rights" Just asking if you had an actual number you wanted to commit to or if this is a weak justification
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Apr 22, 2019 01:38
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Dead Reckoning posted:I don't have an exact number in mind, but I know it's at least 88,000. That's how many excess deaths the CDC estimates are caused by alcohol each year. Alcohol has absolutely no redeeming social value, but we tolerate it in spite of its staggering cost to society. I don't think one can coherently be in favor of both strong gun control and legal consumption of alcohol, if your objection is from a public health standpoint. I mean we limit it to those over the age of 21, arrest you if using it unsafely (DUIs) and empower sellers to cut people off, so you're down for like 25% of that, yeah?
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Dead Reckoning posted:I'm not sure I understand your question. You have to be 21 to buy a handgun, and most unsafe things you might do with a gun are already covered by various criminal statutes. There isn't a specific dram shop law for gun stores, but OTOH the cashier at the grocery store doesn't make a phone call to the FBI every time I buy a six pack to make sure I'm allowed to have it, so let's call that a wash. If congress wanted to raise the age to buy semiautomatic center fire rifles to 21, I wouldn't get too bent out of shape. How about defining a gun stored outside a gun safe as unsafe use Because, ya know, ...it is "Guns are inert, bombs are not inert" lmao
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Apr 22, 2019 17:46
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Dead Reckoning posted:A gun outside a safe is no more inherently dangerous than a knife outside a safe. Are you unfamiliar with what the word inert means? Please feel free to set fire to a pile of knives and then a pile of bullets and report back on your findings. Or dont. Depending how it goes.
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Shooting Blanks posted:Language is important, including understanding the language of those you disagree with. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2fn6GFSwTEw This is probably what he was thinking of
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Apr 22, 2019 23:42
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Parrotine posted:Definitely not, but I do think McConnell's inaction here will be the thing that will finally get his crusty rear end elected out of office, I don't see his campaign having a chance of winning since he's got such a negative stigma behind it now https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Duncan_D._Hunter
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Guys, I think all of the mass shootings might have another common factor! At last, I have solved the mystery of the ages! Males. The problem is males. What did you think I meant
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Groovelord Neato posted:they don't commit most of the gun violence. But the media said
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The biggest red flag is being a Republican voter.
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Aug 25, 2019 22:19
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Why is that guns can only be spoken of obliquely, like those who do not know the holy word of The Gun must instead compare it to cars, or alcohol or loving skin cancer. It's a tool made to kill people. That's all.
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Sep 1, 2019 03:17
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zapplez posted:Just like a sports car. What honest man needs to go 100 miles an hour. Your dumb hobbies shouldn't put the rest of the public at risk. Your car only shoots bullets at 100 mph? That's a pathetic muzzle velocity and will barely hurt anything at all! A gun that shoots bullets at 750 mph on the hand might need to be regulated!
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 but forever because God forbid we actually talk about guns
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TenementFunster posted:depending on bullet weight and barrel length, an AR-15 is cranking em out at over 1,900 mph Jeez, that sounds downright dangerous
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hey, let's use pool analogies rather than talk about guns e: before we go any further, how many mph do pools go Unoriginal Name fucked around with this message at 03:46 on Sep 5, 2019 |
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The real threat is of terrorists committing mass drownings tbh
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zapplez posted:Guns are really fun You could have saved some time typing and just posted this e: zapplez posted:we as a society accept risks like that all the time. gently caress off with this. There is no other similar risk and you can tell because we arent talking people committing mass murder with a pool or a fifth of whiskey. Plot twist: The disingenuousness is coming from inside your own post!! Unoriginal Name fucked around with this message at 21:09 on Sep 6, 2019 |
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I am very anti-gun. The following 17 point plan will reduce gun violence. Point 1: Regarding pool usage,
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zapplez posted:Percentage of households with a firearm in it has been going down since the 60s. Mass shootings have been on a stark increase since the early 2000s, when at the same time the overall violent crime rate and the homicide rate have been decreasing as well. Households seems like an odd stat to choose. How about firearms per capita?
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zapplez posted:How does % of households with a firearm having nothing to do with access to firearms? How does number of firearms have nothing to do with access to firearms Imagine a house with one gun, carefully kept in a gun safe because the owner has a child. Imagine the same house with 100 guns. Are you really stupid enough to say these are the same thing
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