Register a SA Forums Account here!
JOINING THE SA FORUMS WILL REMOVE THIS BIG AD, THE ANNOYING UNDERLINED ADS, AND STUPID INTERSTITIAL ADS!!!

You can: log in, read the tech support FAQ, or request your lost password. This dumb message (and those ads) will appear on every screen until you register! Get rid of this crap by registering your own SA Forums Account and joining roughly 150,000 Goons, for the one-time price of $9.95! We charge money because it costs us money per month for bills, and since we don't believe in showing ads to our users, we try to make the money back through forum registrations.
 
  • Post
  • Reply
redleader
Aug 18, 2005

Engage according to operational parameters

Peanut Butler posted:

also yeah plains tornadoes g e n e r a l l y dont hit big population centers- people have been settling in the calmer storm zones of the plains for thousands of years, and when europeans got here they generally stuck to the same population centers because, hey, look at all these ancient orchards and native folks telling us 'oh yeah deffo stay here during tornado season'. Like there are all kinds of places in the plains with good soil and access to fresh water, but almost no one lives there because the weather gets disastrously catastrophic every 5-10 years or so

that said, if you're in the rural plains more than an hour from even a town of 100k, look tf out, but they already know that

e: the thing about settlements being in zones where tornadoes are less statistically likely to happen is prolly nationwide, tho that might change if weather patterns change- sprawl is changing that a lil bit on the edges of the KC metro, as well

neat. i'd be shocked if climate change didn't cause tornado areas to shift and put previously safe places at risk

Adbot
ADBOT LOVES YOU

redleader
Aug 18, 2005

Engage according to operational parameters

PostNouveau posted:

The pumping system in New Orleans was like this state of the art technological marvel ... in 1900.

It's so loving old that it uses the wrong kind of electricity. 25 cycle instead of the standard 60 cycle. So they have to have a bunch of ancient power generators that no one makes parts for anymore so they have to machine parts themselves if anything breaks.

sounds like infrastructure week went well

redleader
Aug 18, 2005

Engage according to operational parameters

holy poo poo

redleader
Aug 18, 2005

Engage according to operational parameters
too bad greenland won't exist anymore

redleader
Aug 18, 2005

Engage according to operational parameters
iirc the old one got a little too... direct actiony

redleader
Aug 18, 2005

Engage according to operational parameters
[FURNACE AGAIN?] Too bad Belgium won't exist anymore

redleader
Aug 18, 2005

Engage according to operational parameters
it was a pleasure posting with you all. best of luck for climate hellworld

redleader
Aug 18, 2005

Engage according to operational parameters

twoday posted:

And it appears to be caused by the thread title, Greenland:

ah, with its dying breath, greenland places a curse on the architects of its destruction. majestic.

redleader
Aug 18, 2005

Engage according to operational parameters
unrelated to re-katrina, but have there been any death tolls published from the recent european heatwave?

redleader
Aug 18, 2005

Engage according to operational parameters

Kassad posted:

Wikipedia says this:


But I also looked at the French version of the article and it quotes a newspaper talking about 15 deaths in France alone. It's a far cry from the 15,000 dead during the 2003 heatwave, either way.

thanks

yeah, it's nuts how big 2003 was. according to wikipedia, 70k deaths (!!) can be attributed to that one. i guess it meant people were better prepared this time?



PostNouveau posted:

It ain't even a depression yet.

The Mississippi has been at flood stage for 8 months and we had our third "100 year rain" in the last 2 years this morning, which was unrelated to the system developing in the Gulf.

official guidelines have yet to be updated to refer to these as "1 year rains"

redleader
Aug 18, 2005

Engage according to operational parameters
i didn't realise how much of new orleans is not just below the river, but actually below sea level

seems like you'd need some sort of civil engineering for this to work out. perhaps a handful of days dedicated to infrastructure?

redleader
Aug 18, 2005

Engage according to operational parameters
it's gonna be even more lmao when the 5g rollout cripples our ability to predict these extreme weather events

redleader
Aug 18, 2005

Engage according to operational parameters

SKULL.GIF posted:

I guess I probably should wait until October or something to visit my dad in Florida eh

it's best to let him go, along with the entire state of florida. grieve for them now

redleader
Aug 18, 2005

Engage according to operational parameters

Sheng-Ji Yang posted:

gently caress off

climate's a-changin'

redleader
Aug 18, 2005

Engage according to operational parameters

Sheng-Ji Yang posted:

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/06/19/climate/seawalls-cities-cost-climate-change.html


we spend $600 billion per year on the military. providing protection for cities from flooding is not some sort of impossibility we need to abandon entire cities over.

and when poo poo kicks off for real, that 600bn is going to look quaint

redleader
Aug 18, 2005

Engage according to operational parameters
what are the levees made from? dirt? concrete? does it matter?

redleader
Aug 18, 2005

Engage according to operational parameters
[HEATWAVE AGAIN, AGAIN?] Too bad Europe doesn't exist anymore, again

redleader
Aug 18, 2005

Engage according to operational parameters
had a strained, alarmed laugh when i saw this

redleader
Aug 18, 2005

Engage according to operational parameters

oystertoadfish posted:

you've inspired me to post the content i posted in the SAL weather thread

it's from the tour de france, which happens in july as you might notice. they had to call off half a stage due to snow and hail and landslide

quotes are from the SAS tour de france thread



thats some weather content, right there

snow and hail while the rest of the continent boils huh? very good and normal weather

redleader
Aug 18, 2005

Engage according to operational parameters

Kassad posted:

It's typical to have colder, stormy weather coming up on the tail of a heatwave. It's passing over France now and it's going to move eastward over the rest of Europe. And storms in the Alps gently caress poo poo up.

ty. weather being weather, it's not surprising that this is expected - but it feels wrong

redleader
Aug 18, 2005

Engage according to operational parameters

Strep Vote posted:

F is best for temperature because at both extremes of the neat 0-100 degree mark is where you start to want to die, so it's just a percentage scale in most people's minds.

sorry that this makes more sense than celcius

nah, i start to wish for death at 0C, so your stupid bullshit scale that goes to absurdly low temperatures that only simpletons would want to live in is still dumb

redleader
Aug 18, 2005

Engage according to operational parameters

Peanut Butler posted:

lol you're not from a place where it gets cold enough to wish for death

0-100 F works p good because that's about one years range of temperatures here

correct, and you should leave for somewhere that has reasonable year-round temperatures. which is where celsius shines - if it dips below zero C, don't live there

redleader
Aug 18, 2005

Engage according to operational parameters

Shima Honnou posted:

Good news about the future of everywhere then.

too bad winter won't exist anymore

redleader
Aug 18, 2005

Engage according to operational parameters
would be v on brand for this timeline if using F instead of C for temperature changes was enough to spook the world into tackling climate change. earth dead because we used the wrong units lol

redleader
Aug 18, 2005

Engage according to operational parameters
[ARKSTORM AGAIN?]

redleader
Aug 18, 2005

Engage according to operational parameters

GOOD TIMES ON METH posted:

Euro track would also allow it to go back out into the Gulf and presumably power back up to wipe another panhandle city off the map

:yeshaha:

redleader
Aug 18, 2005

Engage according to operational parameters

why not? it's not like there'll be any consequences

redleader
Aug 18, 2005

Engage according to operational parameters

:eyepop:


not gonna lie, someone really sucked the fun out of the title

redleader
Aug 18, 2005

Engage according to operational parameters

redleader
Aug 18, 2005

Engage according to operational parameters

Agean90 posted:

Does anyone have that fake nws report that ends with IVAN IS COMEING IVAN IS COMEING or whatever hurricane it was for


quote:

HURRICANE IKE FINAL ADVISORY NUMBER 666
NWS TPC/NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL
0200 AM SUN SEP 14 2008

A MASSIVE HURRICANE, NEY, A TITANIC BLACK MASS OF DESTRUCTION, BORN OF THE COLD, EVIL WOMB OF MOTHER NATURE, WILL RENDER MUCH OF COASTAL AND INLAND TEXAS A BARREN WASTELAND. IKE IS COMING.

SUCH IS THE POWER OF THIS STORM, IF INDEED, ANYTHING DISPENSING THIS AMOUNT OF HUMAN SUFFERING CAN BE CALLED A STORM.

THE STORM SURGE, ONCE PREDICTED AT 17 FEET, WILL NOW REACH UNHEARD OF HEIGHTS. IF WILL BE AS IF THE OCEAN ITSELF HAS VACATED ITS VAST PRISON, SHAKING LOOSE ITS CHAINS, AND LAYING ITSELF PRONE ATOP THE CITIES OF MAN. THE LAST VESTIGES OF ITS BONDAGE SINKING ALL THAT LIES IN ITS PATH.

ALL STRUCTURES WITHIN A 100 MILE RADIUS WILL SUFFER DEVASTATING EFFECTS. WOOD WILL SPLINTER, CONCRETE WILL BECOME DUST. THE FOUNDATIONS WILL BE THE STARK REMNANTS OF HUMAN EXISTENCE IN THESE AREAS. TREES WILL BECOME UPROOTED AND CARRIED MILES BY WINDS THAT WILL BLAST THE VERY SKIN FROM ANYONE FOOLISH ENOUGH TO REMAIN OUTSIDE. BUT THEY WILL BE THE LUCKY ONES...THE FIRST TO DIE. FOR A MUCH GREATER MISERY AWAITS THOSE THAT SURVIVE.

AMIDST THIS MIRE OF CARNAGE, THE FEW SURVIVORS WILL WALLOW IN A SOUP OF DEATH AND DESPAIR, AS THEY FACE GRIM ODDS. FEW STRUCTURES WILL EXIST, AND FOOD AND WATER WILL BE MORE PRECIOUS THAN GOLD. AS CORPSES OF HUMANS AND ANIMALS ROT, DYSENTERY AND MALARIA WILL BEGIN THEIR MACABRE DANCE AMONG THOSE REMAINING AND MANY WILL BE FORCED TO CONSUME ONE ANOTHER TO LIVE ONE FINAL DAY.

ENTIRE GENERATIONS WILL PERISH, AND THE HURRICANE WILL CREEP INTO LEGEND. IT WILL BE A SIN TO EVEN CALL ITS NAME ALOUD, THE VERY EXISTENCE OF THIS EVENT BEING SPOKEN OF IN HUSHED TONES, AND REVERED BY THOSE WHO SEE IT AS JUDGMENT. IKE IS HERE. IKE IS HERE. IKE IS HERE. IKE IS HERE. IKE IS H

redleader
Aug 18, 2005

Engage according to operational parameters
so we're not going to be scouring florida off the map? darn it

redleader
Aug 18, 2005

Engage according to operational parameters

Sheng-Ji Yang posted:

hopefully it missed florida, circles around the atlantic for a few months, and slams right into the UK on no deal brexit day

is this what brexit means?

redleader
Aug 18, 2005

Engage according to operational parameters

weather nerd question: why doesn't california get hit by hurricanes?

redleader
Aug 18, 2005

Engage according to operational parameters

The Glumslinger posted:

The wind blows the wrong way and water is way colder than the Atlantic

Spergin Morlock posted:

because the earth isn't spinning in the opposite direction.

ty

redleader
Aug 18, 2005

Engage according to operational parameters

oystertoadfish posted:

if you still care, here's an la times article about when hurricanes and tropical storms have come close. a tropical storm hit orange county in 1939

https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2019-08-21/hurricanes-here-the-cordonazo-that-lashed-los-angeles



in this map from the article you can just baaaarely see a few reaching up toward southern california

but i think all of these (reaching socal) are tropical storms, not even category 1, so nothing compared to what happens elsewhere

cheers. these sound like the primary differences:

quote:

Unlike the eastern U.S., where the warm Gulf Stream flows northward along the Atlantic Coast, the California Current carries cool water southward along the West Coast. It literally throws cold water in the face of any tropical cyclones approaching the California coast and the coast of northern Baja California.

In addition, the upper-level winds known as steering currents tend to carry storms to the west and northwest, out into the Pacific and away from California. At lower levels of the atmosphere off the California coast, prevailing winds are northwesterly, creating vertical wind shear that rips hurricanes apart. These northwesterly winds near the surface also promote upwelling, pulling cool water from the deep and pushing warmer coastal water offshore, creating a less-hospitable environment for tropical cyclones.

Downward motion in the atmosphere off the coast of Southern California, as opposed to upward motion vital to the formation of thunderstorms, also discourages formation or continuation of cyclones. 

which incidentally raises the question of "what happens if climate change causes the gulf stream to shut down?" naively i'd guess it means you'd have hotter water hanging around in the gulf of mexico/caribbean sea causing maxxximum storms - but from a brief read of wikipedia it sounds like we don't need to worry because at that point everything falls apart and we all die

redleader
Aug 18, 2005

Engage according to operational parameters
being an oceanographer studying those currents must be one hell of a trip. you get to gently caress around with simulations and poo poo and find all sorts of new and exciting ways in which small changes to a delicate system cause abrupt and apocalyptic changes in climate

redleader
Aug 18, 2005

Engage according to operational parameters
have the bahamas been turbofucked by a hurricane like this before? or is this one in a category of its own?

redleader
Aug 18, 2005

Engage according to operational parameters

Harik posted:

a couple days back some posters were talking about a dystopia where lowlying islands were razed so rich coastlines could steal their sand.

that would actually be better than the reality: we're illegally tearing out protected habitat to steal sand for concrete. Because desert sand isn't shaped right, it can only be beach sand.

so the bahamas will be dredged to the seabed to make chinese highrises

Found the video I was looking for
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fpc3hhH1cas

i love our wonderful species

redleader
Aug 18, 2005

Engage according to operational parameters
if they're really lucky, they'll cut off a critical piece of home medical equipment, kill someone, then lose a wrongful death lawsuit - leaving them in a situation where they literally cannot make a good move

Adbot
ADBOT LOVES YOU

redleader
Aug 18, 2005

Engage according to operational parameters
i hope it powers up in the irish sea until the 31st before slamming into britain

  • 1
  • 2
  • 3
  • 4
  • 5
  • Post
  • Reply