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 Happy November. As the nights draw in, the weather gets colder, fireworks crackle in the sky, and austerity hellworld continues to kill, here's a piece of prose by a nice lady named Lucy Parsons. Lucy Parsons - To Tramps Next winter when the cold blasts are creeping through the rents in your seedy garments, when the frost is biting your feet through the holes in your worn-out shoes, and when all wretchedness seems to have centered in and upon you, when misery has marked you for her own and life has become a burden and existence a mockery, when you have walked the streets by day and slept upon hard boards by night, and at last determine by your own hand to take your life — for you would rather go out into utter nothingness than to longer endure an existence which has become such a burden — so, perchance, you determine to dash yourself into the cold embrace of the lake rather than longer suffer thus. But halt, before you commit this last tragic act in the drama of your simple existence. Stop! Is there nothing you can do to insure those whom you are about to orphan, against a like fate? The waves will only dash over you in mockery of your rash act; but stroll you down the avenues of the rich and look through the magnificent plate windows into their voluptuous homes, and here you will discover the very identical robbers who have despoiled you and yours. Then let your tragedy be enacted here! Awaken them from their wanton sport at your expense! Send forth your petition and let them read it by the red glare of destruction. Thus when you cast “one long lingering look behind” you can be assured that you have spoken to these robbers in the only language which they have ever been able to understand, for they have never yet deigned to notice any petition from their slaves that they were not compelled to read by the red glare bursting from the cannons’ mouths, or that was not handed to them upon the point of the sword. You need no organization when you make up your mind to present this kind of petition. In fact, an organization would be a detriment to you; but each of you hungry tramps who read these lines, avail yourselves of those little methods of warfare which Science has placed in the hands of the poor man, and you will become a power in this or any other land. Learn the use of explosives! This is inspiring prose and not incitement, and it is good and lovely, now everyone carry on with socially acceptable events like All Saints Day and Celebrate Burning A Catholic Man Day.   In The News  • From today, doctors will be able to prescribe cannabis products to patients in Britain (but not NI). It's being moved to Schedule 2 alongside diamorphine and Moffett's solution, so don't expect to get it for your headache. • MI5 is found to have illegally spied on several human rights charities and groups. • Security services have also have been revealed to have been allowed to use rape and torture as weapons until 2012, even domestically. • 700,000 people march through London demanding an end to Brexit, as talks remain in deadlock over the Irish border. • 8,000 women in Glasgow staged a walkout over council pay, leading to solidarity strikes. • Draft legislation to extend civil partnerships to mixed-sex couples has cleared the House of Commons, but the Government says it is "not all straightforward" to remove four words from an Act. • Theresa May failed to show any backbone by refusing to say she will stop arms sales to Saudi Arabia after their blatant murder, but apparently Britain begged them not to, which clearly worked. • The EU's Copyright in the Digital Single Market Directive has kept all the garbage ammendments, including copyright filters and link taxes, that will be a loving disaster especially for independent non-trash journalism and open access academic journals. • An OECD report has found that the 2010 school reforms have significantly widened inequality and entrenched disadvantage throughout a child's schooling and into adulthood, although any comment on whether Michael Gove is "a big oval office" who "loving did this on purpose" would be beyond the remit of the report. • Less than 150 days until Brexit, have you started your shopping?  The Firing Squad: UKMT October exotic bird munch 2018: They're all hungover and want to nationalise things/Everything May does right now is going to induce Labour UKMT September 2018 - Playing Chess While May's Still Playing Chequers/No, to the contrary. UKMT August 2018 - Win A #GoveIsland Water Bottle/The adult babies takeover is off UKMT July 2018 - It's Coming H...oh UKMT June 2018 - They frequent seldome any pastymes or sportes UKMT May 2018 - Slithers Off Rudd/Say no to hamophobia All Previous Threads (thanks Pesky Splinter) The Brazen Bulls: Europol Thread Scotpol Thread Trainchat Thread Political Cartoons Thread BYOB: UKMT The Electric Chair: Off the Fence - Brighton based, covering UK & Global topics. Pretty chill and professional peeps. Older 'casts can be found in the PLATFORM B archive. Reel Politik - The Original Leftie Hate Trolls. Check 'em out. We Don't Talk About The Weather - Two cool guys discuss news and other stuff. The UKMT-iest of Podcasts. Desolation Radio - Socialism from a Welsh perspective. Informative hosts. Revolutionary Despatches - Two new guys starting out. Connected & Disaffected - Breezy discussions of lefty social, and historical topics, and news updates. Pretty Good. Trashfuture - Theme of the week style podcast about capitalism and how much it fucks up. Cool podcasters, sometimes working with Reel Politik Agitpod - Owen Jones & Ellie Mae O’Hagan discuss news. Reasons to Be Cheerful - Former Labour leader Ed "Red Ed" Milliband and Geoff Lloyd shoot the poo poo, and discuss general politics. Sometimes with guests. Novara Media - Numerous fluctucating commentators including Matt Zarb-Cousin, Max Shanly, and James Butler among others. Varying topics with guests. [Citations Needed] - Covers the US, focussing on the media, PR, and assorted bullshit. Also some socialist history topics. Very informative. Chapo House Media - More US focused, from a leftist perspective. Basically a US version of Reel Politik, but with better mics. Worth a listen. The Device For Making Sure The Edges of Pages Are All Neat: Stop, Thief!: The Commons, Enclosures, And Resistance – Peter Linebaugh Libertarian Communism – Isaac Puente Amestoy At The Café – Malatesta The Method of Freedom – Malatesta In Praise of Idleness – Russell Political Ideals – Russell Declaration – Hardt and Negri Liberalism, a Counter History – Domenico Losurdo God and the State – Bakunin The Conquest of Bread – Kropotkin Imperialism, the Highest Stage of Capitalism – V I Lenin Anarchism and Other Essays – Emma Goldman Social Reform or Revolution – Rosa Luxemburg Violence – Slavoj Zizek Jihad vs. McWorld - Benjamin Barber Crashed: How a Decade of Financial Crises Changed the World – Adam Tooze Flat Earth News - Nick Davies Hack Attack - Nick Davies Ecology of Freedom – Murray Bookchin Anarchism, Marxism and the Future of the Left – Murray Bookchin Let's Read Das Kapital – Karl Marx and Goons UKMT CLP Commissars (thanks feedmegin) quote:I came up with the idea of a register of goons and their CLPs in case any new joiners wanted someone to go to to get the local lie of the land. The Effortpost's Graveyard (thanks goddamnedtwisto and UKMT goons) Join us on synIRC for Question Time Awfulness and Stuff #ukgoons on synIRC (thanks crispix). Now on with your regularly scheduled Hell (thanks Tijuana Bibliophile)  Lightning Knight posted:
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Also after discussing it with CB and amongst ourselves, we’ve decided we won’t punish people just for mentioning pissflaps anymore as long as it doesn’t cause an extended derail. What constitutes “an extended derail” is up to interpretation. 
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superLINUS posted:The lump of gammon we call the Security Minister just said “accured” when he meant “accrued” on BBC Breakfast and I know it’s a small thing but I long for the arrival of the Wall. This is how the UK is going to end the drug war, right? (For certain people.) Not with the bang of actual quality controls and legislation, but with the whimper of we don't have the spare manpower to deal with the cannabis farm next door that's running 16 400W HPS lamps off of a single 15A lighting ring with a nail through the breaker, but please let us know if the roof catches fire again. Press 1 to leave detailed feedback of your call experience. Rarity posted:Tag yourself I'm #1
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Nov 1, 2018 09:43
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The best part about Gordon Peterson (other than calling him that from now on) is how wrong he is about Marx to the degree that anyone who has casually read Marx or anyone commenting on Marx within the past 150 years can own him without effort. The second best part was when he got schooled by David ben Atar. Did he ever do the debate with Zizek? I can't find it anywhere.
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Nov 1, 2018 11:21
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Tesseraction posted:Don't think so. There is this hilarious bit where Jim Jefferies destroys his argument in 40 seconds and he admits it Pochoclo posted:“Social democracy with good workers’ rights” is pretty much the best system our rotten loving species can seem to manage at this point in time, until they inevitably go either neoliberal or fash 
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Nov 1, 2018 11:44
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Darth Walrus posted:The diagrams from Maps of Meaning should be enough to put most sane people off Peterson.  His Divine Shadow posted:We also completely ban air rifles of any power for hunting, even for rats and vermin.  Tesseraction posted:shaun should post more
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Nov 1, 2018 12:22
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The only law I'm aware of for deer here is that there's a minimum bullet diameter and muzzle energy (in England and Wales) or weight and speed (in Scotland) or a mixture of both (in Northern Ireland) and it must be of a type that deforms on impact. Other than that it's not specified in law how you get it going that fast.
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His Divine Shadow posted:I think it's very expensive, but I also think it's a horrible waste of money to fly anywhere, because anywhere sucks. DesperateDan posted:The deer act of '63 explicitly says no air weapons- you can use a suitable rifle or a 12 gauge up close. A suitably powered air rifle would do the job just as well as a normal rifle, but for a whole bunch more cash. It seems very arbitrary to exclude air when you can use any other means. It also seems odd to allow shot when they banned using arrows or bolts or darts or anything else.
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Nov 1, 2018 12:58
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crispix posted:Ginster's pasty crispix posted:mutual pleasure You just activated a Manchurian Candidate somewhere by using those two in the same sentence. e: Four: The echidna, sometimes known as the spiny anteater, has a penis with four heads. Somewhere, someone has incorporated this into Sonic fanart. You know they have. Thinking about this is the worst sex tip. Guavanaut fucked around with this message at 13:07 on Nov 1, 2018 |
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Nov 1, 2018 13:02
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DesperateDan posted:Muntjac can apparently be taken with a .22 rifle according to the '91 revisions (seems a bit low to me, fuckers can be fairly large) but all other species it seems to want a caliber of .240/force of x joules or above. At least not a standard 22LR one and not some  custom load like WhatEvil posted:Arron Banks referred to National Crime Agency
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Nov 1, 2018 13:27
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learnincurve posted:o/  Good news though! 
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Nov 1, 2018 13:34
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jBrereton posted:looking forward to him doing newsnight interviews from inside a jail cell as an "alleged" lawbreaker.
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Nov 1, 2018 13:50
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Saith posted:I thought uni was free for Scottish/EU students? Coohoolin posted:Whose debt? Scottish and EU students get uni for free. e: Other than means-tested bursaries for low income students, but students in general are still borrowing.
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Nov 1, 2018 14:24
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JeremoudCorbynejad posted:Just one to go and then the US gets a bonus of 2 troops at the start of the turn  e: ^^ Irish citizenship extends to anyone born on the island of Ireland to at least one parent also born on the island, and is automatic from birth, so it shouldn't need to be applied for.
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Nov 1, 2018 14:41
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Gorn Myson posted:How come this country has so many people born after 1945 that act like they actually fought in World War 2, its loving weird. Not the free healthcare or education or nationalisation of banks, land, mines, and transport they demanded though, just the racism. ookiimarukochan posted:Have you been reading my twitter?
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Nov 1, 2018 16:16
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Barry Foster posted:'Give your leaders each a gun and let them fight it out themselves', indeed. 
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Nov 1, 2018 17:04
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WW1 veterans taught us that war is terrible, so when they started dying we started saying no actually it's good and about glory again. WW2 veterans taught us that fascism is horrible, so when they started dying we started saying hmm how about that nationalism lads.
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Nov 1, 2018 17:20
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Failed Imagineer posted:https://twitter.com/jdpoc/status/1058007548203331585?s=19 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rk8SeGx7v8M The DPRK posted:Can we briefly dip in to shavechat? My dermatologist recommends I try a dry electric shaver because wet shaving with a blade is irritating my skin too much. I'm awash in a sea of possibilities and I have no idea what the difference is between a £300 Remington and a £30 Remington.
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Nov 1, 2018 17:30
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Renaissance Robot posted:He's not wrong, the nazis were socialists you know!  Tommy's not far right. He's not right at all.
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Nov 1, 2018 17:41
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Jaeluni Asjil posted:Not seen that particular one here, but you can get a range of WW1 silhouette figures from British Legion:  Renaissance Robot posted:I'm so happy I live in an age where trimmed stubble considered neat enough for work as opposed to everyone demanding a full clean shave 100% of the time. I wouldn't have a face left if I tried to shave down to bare skin every day.  But without the racism and civil rights issues and dying of cholera. Buying big balls of opium over the counter from a newsagent would be pretty cool though. e: Gonzo McFee posted:"But Hitler was a Socialist though"
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Nov 1, 2018 18:00
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Same but I haven't mastered the flying mustache. Life goals is 
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Nov 1, 2018 18:05
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Failed Imagineer posted:It's worth remembering just how racist these kind of employment policies are, as I understand that it especially sucks rear end to shave every day if you're black
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Nov 1, 2018 18:11
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Angepain posted:I shave my beard by getting a nice lady to zap tiny areas hair-by-hair with electricity for an hour a week. It'll only take about a year probably and then I'll have literally the smoothest shave physically possible. Uh, maybe not the best option for the fashionable man about town though. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tt5tnY_c09k feedmegin posted:That's not a Nazi flag, it's an Imperial German war flag. Which is, obviously, used by the far right over there as a proxy, but it is theoretically possible the guy waving it really just wants the Kaiser back e: 'ksake, again There are seven suicides mentioned throughout the Old and New Testaments, ranging from the shameful (Ahithophel) to the self-sacrificial (Samson). Guavanaut fucked around with this message at 18:28 on Nov 1, 2018 |
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Nov 1, 2018 18:24
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All flags flown by Nazis become Nazi flags for the duration of them being flown by Nazis. That's how you get around the "but the Hindus are allowed to hang up swastikas around Diwali and nobody calls them racist  " arguments.And also how you get around them just adopting a new old symbol whenever the one they like gets too tainted, until they're flying the GDR Postal Service flag at fash rallies.
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Nov 1, 2018 18:31
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Failed Imagineer posted:Also, the castle at Disneyland was technically a Nazi fortress until Walt died OwlFancier posted:Similarly the st george cross is probably at least 50% nazi.  Now that's possibly because google thinks I'm looking for fash events in my area (I sometimes am, but not because I support them), but it's definitely in ruined iconography territory. Also that whole mess with Emily Thornberry getting sacked for posting "Image from #Rochester" with a van and some flags, on her twitter filled with such sneering elitist bile as a picture of a church with "St Margaret's Church" written above it showed that the same people who go on about the flag not being racist are the exact people who assume that everything containing the flag posted by 'not them' is an incitement to or accusation of racism. So yeah, bin it.
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Nov 1, 2018 18:40
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Angepain posted:My hair is pretty variable there, sadly. There's also a tradeoff where laser and IPL aren't actually completely permanent. They can permanently reduce the amount of hair but you still need top-ups every now and then apparently. A common strategy is to laser off what you can and then electro-zap whatever's left. Note however that the procedure is not in fact called electro-zapping, which is another downside. It also hurts like a bastard, turns out. Angepain posted:Crusaders have the ugliest goddamn military uniform ever, imo. What were they thinking.
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Nov 1, 2018 19:04
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The only downside with raising the threshold is that it raises it for everyone (up to £100k or whatever) which lowers your tax take to benefit people that can afford it. You could get around that with more bands though, or some wilder ideas like negative income tax or a means tested VAT exemption card or Universal Credit But Not Wank or Universal Basic Services like the NES or national fibre or something. Someone on full time minimum wage probably shouldn't be paying income tax but if they pay £30 a year it's not the end of the world as long as they have good services, that's more important.
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Nov 1, 2018 20:25
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That too, but NI is a whole other mess.
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Nov 1, 2018 20:32
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Have a good time offline. Go outside and look at a tree, I hear those are offline.
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NotJustANumber99 posted:Lol, sure but we also used to have outdoor toilets and no internet. Seriously though, the 70s saw the building of a lot of housing stock and conversion/demolition of lovely houses, plus the laying down of our first digital comms infrastructure, and that took money. It's better than calling them Future Soldiers.
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baka kaba posted:Keep kicking rear end Josef! But watch out for the Dragon of Chaos 
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baka kaba posted:I just realised at least one person on the planet must have that diagram as a tattoo e: ^^ they were Unclaimed Babies, then Peace Babies, then Jelly Babies. Because pre WWI people liked reading orphans I guess. Guavanaut fucked around with this message at 21:59 on Nov 1, 2018 |
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Nov 1, 2018 21:57
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Spangly A posted:Funny as bankrupting the middle class may appear, it's pretty important to remember they're the ones who start genocides, not the ones who gently caress with the economy for everyone else
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Nov 2, 2018 00:02
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Food £200 Data £150 Rent £800 Carly Rae Video Remakes £8,000 Utility £150 someone who is good at the economy please help me budget this. my party is dying
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Nov 2, 2018 00:59
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I think they've stopped checking that unless you use a courier that collects on HMRC's behalf like UPS. I've had things through were they didn't even bother filling out the customs declaration and it came straight through. Or where they did and it's over £15 and it came straight through. I imagine the borders might be a bit busy with other things at the moment. The most ridiculous part when they do collect it is the £8 admin fee on top of the tax owed. So if you import something that's £20 you pay £4 VAT and £8 admin for £12 total, or an effective 60% VAT, whereas if you import something that's £120, you pay £24 VAT + £8 admin for £32 total, or an effective 27% VAT. It's regressive as all poo poo and there should be some way of doing the admin yourself.
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Nov 2, 2018 09:34
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The move now seems to be towards collecting all necessary taxes as the point of departure, which obviously benefits larger structures at present, like ebay and amazon, but they seem to be more diligent about collecting import duties and doing the admin for a far lower cost than they ever were about paying the taxes that they actually owe. Probably because it's the seller who has to do all the work and the buyer who has to pay up, rather than them, but that doesn't mean that it doesn't work.
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Pablo Bluth posted:So the new £50 is to have a yet to he determined scientist on it. I'm outraged at this honour going to somebody who did something and not MAGGIE. Does BREXIT not mean BREXIT? I bet whoever they go with NEVER WORE A POPPY. The Bank of ENGLAND are a bunch of EU TRAITORS. 
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JeremoudCorbynejad posted:What about maggie 
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Nov 2, 2018 12:48
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sebzilla posted:I don't remember what happened to Major/Thatcher, or anyone prior. sebzilla posted:I was thinking idly in the shower this morning, how different would things be if Labour had won a few extra seats, been the largest party in 2010 and we'd got a LibLab coalition instead? Cameron would presumably have followed the convention of defeated leaders stepping down which might have left the Tories without a credible leader again (BoJo lol) but we almost certainly wouldn't have seen Labour move as far to the left as they have in the past few years. Might have averted the UKIP rise based on the government not blaming everything on immigrants (if Brown had the courage to call out bigoted women for what they are) and thus no referendum. Or maybe we'd have just got Full Tory in 2015 and things would be just as poo poo as they are now, maybe worse. A center-left government would have been unable to mount a credible alternative to that. Lib Dem interference might have stopped Brown from banning everything that he couldn't spell, but they'd probably demand some orange bookish changes to the post-crash economy, which would have only wound up the squeezed middle more. Or maybe they'd have folded on everything for a few cabinet positions in DEFRA and Culture.
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Only if it gets an inscription on the bottom saying that Britain could have been world leaders in digital telephone exchanges if the government weren't such cunts about state secrets.
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