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Eggplant Squire
Aug 14, 2003


Grouchio posted:

The Blue Dogs are dead, we should instead instate a Cat rule. :colbert:

I support this initiative.

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Eggplant Squire
Aug 14, 2003


Duckworth's only real strength over any other challenger is being a Democratic veteran and the last two decades of Presidential elections have shown that doesn't matter in the least despite what supposed experts think.

Eggplant Squire
Aug 14, 2003


If you aren't interested in fixing our disgusting and predatory medical system (and access to care is not doing anything), you have no business leading the party. It's really that simple since if the President can't use their position to advocate for it, it will not happen by itself. Saying "it's not the right time" or whatever is the cowardly way of saying you have no intention of ever supporting it until all the work is done by someone else like how the Democrats we're dragged to supporting gay marriage by the log cabin Republicans and courts.

Eggplant Squire
Aug 14, 2003


Wow that was quick.

Eggplant Squire
Aug 14, 2003


If Trump was smart he would have fired Mueler way back around when he fired Comey and it would have been out of the news cycle in a day without any work done on the investigation.

Eggplant Squire
Aug 14, 2003


1glitch0 posted:

CNN is ignorantly baffled by this development.

"Why now?"

"Why would Trump want this fight?"

"Will 5 or 6 republican senators join the democrats to protect Mueller's investigation?"

"Rudy Giuliani just told me Trump will let the Mueller investigation play out!"

"Trump has always said he's innocent, why would he want to go down this road?"

I can't believe none of these people have forgotten to breath on air and fallen over.

Political pundits are hired specifically because they have no insight into politics.

Eggplant Squire
Aug 14, 2003


Ossoff was a bad, uninspiring candidate no matter how much liquid cash was shoveled into his campaign.

Eggplant Squire
Aug 14, 2003


This CNN reporter ban thing using doctored video as an excuse makes me think back to the press guys comforting a crying Sanders after her roasting by Wolfe and laugh.

Eggplant Squire
Aug 14, 2003


Republicans are already voting on the assumption that the Democrats are going to ban all guns. By backing off the issue you are just allowing the notion this nightmare should be normal to continue.

It's like saying that we can't use leftists messaging when they are already calling Nancy "we are capitalists" Pelosi a socialist extremist in ads targeting right leaning Democrats. We need to actually have concrete positions and fight for stuff instead of meekly letting the right dictate every narrative since oh no they might say the Democrats are bad.

Eggplant Squire
Aug 14, 2003


With or without her the only option is court packing and other extreme measures. A Republican senate is never confirming a Democratic nominee again.

Eggplant Squire
Aug 14, 2003


Kimsemus posted:

There is a pretty large body of conservative lawyers/professors whom don't even consider court packing extreme -- rather a kind of logical thing since there is no real 9 justice rule anyway.

It's extreme to politicians and pundits that either want an eternal conservative court or have drowned themselves in the decorum flavoraide that doing anything that isn't the same as what is considered normal to be literally unimaginable.

Frankly she should have retired in 2012 and gotten a replacement through when it became clear the GOP was radicalized and had no interest in doing anything in good faith. Avoiding the elephant in the room since it's offensive to conservatives and both sides idiots is dooming us all.

Eggplant Squire fucked around with this message at 15:23 on Nov 8, 2018

Eggplant Squire
Aug 14, 2003



Yeah it was already clear where things we're headed even before McConnel but no one wanted to admit it.

Eggplant Squire
Aug 14, 2003


Ford has had to move four times because she dared to go public against her sexual assaulter so I don't give a poo poo people yelled at Tucker's house. All he had to do is stop being a white supremacist for big money. He's not even close to a victim.

Eggplant Squire
Aug 14, 2003


Also Tucker did this exact thing already to someone else by doxing their family.

https://twitter.com/slpng_giants/status/1060430009414733824?s=19

It's really up in the air about the morality of this, especially once you involve kids, but he specifically is starting this and then acting like the victim when it inevitable comes around to him. The right is already doing the exact thing but of course no one cares until suddenly they are affected.

Eggplant Squire fucked around with this message at 20:32 on Nov 8, 2018

Eggplant Squire
Aug 14, 2003


Where are people even getting that the protest targeted his kids? At most there was one person in the background of a video mentioning bringing a pipe bomb which clearly didn't happen or was part of the actual message of the group. It feels like the protesters were yelling at him to leave the neighborhood and he's using his kids as a way to gain sympathy.

Eggplant Squire
Aug 14, 2003


Seriously where are we getting that this group threatened to blow up his house?

Eggplant Squire
Aug 14, 2003


Groovelord Neato posted:

the news went wild over the caravan but kemp straight up stole an election and it's getting little play.

And weird they stopped talking about it immediately after the election like everyone knew they would.

Eggplant Squire
Aug 14, 2003


AlBorlantern Corps posted:

Nobody is attaching Tucker's kids. You've already bought into a false dichotomy. Protesting him at his house and putting the fear of God in him has nothing to do with his kids. He's just using them as a deflection from his actions. They live there? Ok. They aren't targets of the protest. They are not threatened and no one is threatening them.

No one committed any wants of violence against them and no one threatened to. End of story.

It's this. People have bought into the typical conservative messaging that they are the victim of what they are actually doing.

Eggplant Squire
Aug 14, 2003


Most rich people in the media, like Steve Colbert, definitely have more solidarity with Tucker than any of the people he attacks, villifies, and sets as targets for violence daily.

Eggplant Squire
Aug 14, 2003


Tucker is trying the typical trick of trying to equivocate ANY response to his actions as violent in order to create the impression he's the civil one and everyone else is bad. Notice he says that they didn't want to debate his points and instead were just yelling. It's the Calm Hilter cartoon in real life and don't fall for it.

Eggplant Squire
Aug 14, 2003


Right wing media is only part of the problem. The rest of the issue is mainstream outlets allow their messaging to be dominated by whatever the right is howling about. The Caravans, EMAILS, or the 2014 Ebola outbreak are examples of this.

Eggplant Squire
Aug 14, 2003


Mendrian posted:

... under what definition would it possibly be a hate crime?

Eggplant Squire
Aug 14, 2003


selec posted:

Class solidarity at work.

Yeah exactly. Colbert has more in common with Tucker than he does the people Tucker attacks.

Eggplant Squire
Aug 14, 2003


Pretty much anything a right wing pundit or politician says is probably lying so never repeat their claims without serious double-checking.

Eggplant Squire
Aug 14, 2003


Spaced God posted:

Why are we arguing about breaking down someone's door when it didn't loving happen?

gently caress it, sure, i agree that some hypothetical maybe bad, but let's focus on that fact that y'all are falling for the right wing spin on the narrative which transformed "someone knocked on the door hard and there's a crack in it" to "they beat the door down with a battering ram and laid claim to anything that was inside"

Next let's talk about how Acosta really did assault that intern

Seriously people are falling for right wing bullshit here and I'm seeing maybe why WAPO is so consistently naive.

Eggplant Squire
Aug 14, 2003


Ryan's wonk image was entirely media manufactured since "intellectual" conservatives needed a figure to point to in order to justify supporting their white supremacist party that had no idea how to run a government other than to loot and pillage it and the centrist media needs a both sides narrative.

Only Beltway idiots and Republican voters who needed the lie for comfort fell for it since the guy is obviously an idiot.

Eggplant Squire
Aug 14, 2003


No one cares about bipartisanship outside of Beltway wonks and idiotic pundits.

Eggplant Squire
Aug 14, 2003


If Obama got his grand bargain people wouldn't be happy both sides worked together to slash entitlements. People want bipartisanship when it results in something good because the alternative is deadlock as everything slowly gets shittier. Bipartisan as it is used by politicians usually means working together regardless of outcome and acting like the act of cooperation is inherently good.

No one is giving credit to the parties for working together to deregulate the banks because they either are against it or don't care. Don't confuse "I want the parties to work together and give me something" with "as long as they work together I am happy regardless of if the result is bad.".

Eggplant Squire
Aug 14, 2003


The Glumslinger posted:

To most people, bipartisanship means that the other party should give into my party's demands. Thats it. Its not a general outpouring of support for centrist policy, its that everyone thinks the other side should come to their senses.

Yeah this as well.

Eggplant Squire
Aug 14, 2003


Do not vote for Trump.

Eggplant Squire
Aug 14, 2003


In the scenario where Manchin somehow gets the nomination in 2020 we are hosed either way so the thought experiment of how far you would vote against Trump is pretty moot.

Eggplant Squire
Aug 14, 2003



More like encouraging it.

Eggplant Squire
Aug 14, 2003



Republicans shiiting on McCain who was so loyal to them he died in his chair to stop a special election never stops being funny.

Eggplant Squire
Aug 14, 2003


NiceGuy posted:

This is why Colbert's bullshit pissed me off: never EVER take a nazi at their word.

Guys like Colbert will side with their peers every time.

Eggplant Squire
Aug 14, 2003


He's more openly biggoted which is what that mean when they say "strength."

Eggplant Squire
Aug 14, 2003


https://twitter.com/GovernorVA/status/1062365211380903936?s=19

Northram and Cuomo groveling at the oppurtunity to pay Amazon so they can gently caress up the surrounding area is humiliating.

Northram should one up Cuomo and say he'll tattoo Amazon on his face.

Eggplant Squire
Aug 14, 2003


Ice Phisherman posted:

Nah. Lower back tattoo.

When it's on your face it shows real commitment. Anyone can wear a suit.

my bony fealty posted:

Tbf Northern Virginia is already way out of control re cost of living and property values and home prices so this isn't really going to change much

NY is more concerning

It's going to make NoVa cost of living even crazier and traffic is already bad. In addition we will be on the hook for this until 2042.

Eggplant Squire
Aug 14, 2003


axeil posted:

I'm mildly happy Amazon is coming to NoVA because it'll fix the horrible office occupancy problem that's dragging down the Arlington tax base, but the way they had all these different states begging and groveling was and is disgusting and shouldn't have happened.

Especially since it seems like it was all a show anyway and the locations had been preselected way earlier than this gross contest implied.

Eggplant Squire
Aug 14, 2003


Wars make money for rich people so that's cool.

Watching all the "serious" people talk about how the only reasonable thing is to do nothing that will inconvenience a handful of executives is incredibly terrifying since they are willing to value a few new cars over knowing their children suffer. "Serious" politics has always been code for "gently caress you the elite need new ivory backscratchers" but with this incoming disaster it's even more clear. I hope AOC doesn't stop holding these assholes to the fire despite how many idiots cry about "disunity" or her lack or respect for her greedy elders.

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Eggplant Squire
Aug 14, 2003


Ghost Leviathan posted:

Hideo Kojima was right.

About a lot of things.

While wars make money for a lot of people they aren't the actual consideration. Those people could be moved to different industries since we basically finance the entire MIC and related private contractors anyway. It's the guys at the top that are being protected. Everything else is ancillary.

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