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Slow News Day
Jul 4, 2007


He's projecting again. If he was in a similar position, that's what he would do!

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Slow News Day
Jul 4, 2007

Also, calling it now: it will be revealed that the reason Trump skipped the tour of the military cemetery was to have a secret, unscheduled meeting with Putin.

Slow News Day
Jul 4, 2007

FlamingLiberal posted:

There was a huge PR population here even before Irma hit, and now it's bigger

I want to know why so many of them are going to Polk County of all places. At least the other listed counties in FL make sense (urban areas). Polk is almost all rural with some minor stuff around Lakeland.

Probably cheaper cost of living?

Slow News Day
Jul 4, 2007


After Trump publicly distanced himself from him, it's doubtful Whitaker will still be around by January.

Slow News Day
Jul 4, 2007

Vincent Van Goatse posted:

He'll still get subpoenaed.

For what? They want to interrogate him and force him to recuse himself from the Russia stuff. If he is no longer acting AG by then, what would be the point of a subpoena?

Slow News Day
Jul 4, 2007

The Glumslinger posted:

Was just coming here to post that

Sounds like Mueller is getting ready for the his next round of stuff

Good. My body is ready, and has been for a while.

I still don't understand why investigators would tell someone they are about to indict them.

Wouldn't it be more, uh, impactful if the indictment comes out of nowhere?

Slow News Day
Jul 4, 2007

Shifty Pony posted:

The attempt to redefine "perjury trap" into "asked me something and I lied" is pretty amusing.

It is indeed amusing. Although it's also true that, even if you don't lie, if a prosecutor is trying to indict you and they have access to your... well, everything, then they will find something. After all, the average person breaks what, three laws per day or something like that?

(This is not to say that these motherfuckers are innocent.)

Slow News Day
Jul 4, 2007


This is extremely good, and made me smile in this miserably overcast and frigid day.

Slow News Day
Jul 4, 2007

evilweasel posted:

Scott's election basically seems to hinge on if the Broward County undervote is a ballot design issue or a mechanical issue that will be fixed via recount. I see no way DeSantis loses but I would be happy to be wrong.

Even if only one of the Dems wins, it will be incredibly satisfying to see the GOP lose their poo poo.

Slow News Day
Jul 4, 2007

Shimrra Jamaane posted:

Please resign in protest Mr. Bolton.

There is no loving way he will do that.

Slow News Day
Jul 4, 2007


Today is shaping up to be extremely interesting.

Slow News Day
Jul 4, 2007

Now they just need to release a photoshopped picture of her "sitting" at her desk and everything will be amazing.

Slow News Day
Jul 4, 2007

mistaya posted:

Um, since when does the First Lady get to randomly fire people in the White House staff...? The only reason I can think of for this happening is stupid reality TV show poo poo that I don't even want to say out loud.

She didn't fire just a random staffer. She fired a national security advisor's aide.

Slow News Day
Jul 4, 2007

Feinne posted:

The gently caress kind of person do you have to be to consider an actual mass shooting where a bunch of people actually died a dry run.

Hmm, maybe a... *checks notes*... a monster?

Slow News Day
Jul 4, 2007

evilweasel posted:

fox news is showing unusual amounts of foresight about avoiding the revocation of their white house pass in the next democratic administration

yeah lol, if this doesn't say "they see the writing on the wall" i dont know what does

Slow News Day
Jul 4, 2007

Cythereal posted:

That and Fox News is fundamentally a business at heart.

Actually, Fox News has no heart.

Slow News Day
Jul 4, 2007

Fritz Coldcockin posted:

For the love of God, slap the cuffs on this rear end in a top hat already.

He's not gonna indict anyone until his case is airtight. Remember, the goal is to make it so hopeless for the criminals that they flip.

If they don't flip, the case goes to trial, where there is a chance that they get acquitted. Which would be devastating.

Slow News Day
Jul 4, 2007

evilweasel posted:

I'm pretty sure you can count the countries that get a "real" ambassador on the fingers of one hand. It's just not a position that demands someone qualified anymore. The few things they do have to do actually kinda match up well with the skills needed to be a major donor (good at schmoozing lots of rich friends).

This is not true. It's actually the exact opposite.



Click here for interactive version, along with the explanatory article.

Slow News Day
Jul 4, 2007

luxury handset posted:

absolutely the worst outcome for assange is that he is questioned by the bobbies and released and then he's standing there having to figure out what to do with his life knowing that nobody wants to arrest or detain him

I would bet that Assange has a long list of people who want him vanished. So my guess is that in the unlikely event the US government lets him go, he would immediately find a deep hole to spend the rest of his life in.

Slow News Day
Jul 4, 2007

Party Plane Jones posted:

https://twitter.com/kylegriffin1/status/1063514595653009408

edit: this pre-election kav hearing poster holds true


rapists' demand for off-campus housing will skyrocket!

Slow News Day
Jul 4, 2007

Crow Jane posted:

Babe Ruth and Elvis Presley are somehow so loving Trump. Like, he has no taste of his own, or interests beyond himself and his wallet, so he just picked two names he remembered. It just shows a lack of effort.

As the saying goes, money can't buy taste.

Slow News Day
Jul 4, 2007

:siren: Holy gently caress :siren:

Slow News Day
Jul 4, 2007

eke out posted:

quoting because paywall:

incognito mode in chrome and private browsing on firefox gets around WaPo payroll, btw

(you're welcome, that'll be $5)

Slow News Day
Jul 4, 2007

Slow News Day
Jul 4, 2007

Your Boy Fancy posted:

This story hosed me up. Here's a long-ish read from both sides - a guy in Maine who thinks he's helping stem fake news by creating tons of it as satire and watching as Russians co-opt it, and a woman in Nevada who mindlessly signal boosts the satire as reality. Brings everything into stark relief regarding our current status as the information empire slowly consumes us all, and why I'm so grateful for places like this that actually discuss the merits.

Incidentally, if you haven't deleted your Facebook account or at least made yourself functionally anonymous on it, do it. You can't kill the beast. You can only starve it.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/nati...m=.8bec1eb99041

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Slow News Day
Jul 4, 2007

Party Plane Jones posted:

Similarly from what I remember right post election there were a bunch of sites coming from Macedonia of all places where it was kids spreading bullshit and making bank because there were no opportunities for employment otherwise.

http://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/fake-news-how-partying-macedonian-teen-earns-thousands-publishing-lies-n692451

There's also this:

http://www.latimes.com/business/technology/la-fi-tn-fake-news-20161122-story.html

(read the whole thing, it's incredible)

Slow News Day
Jul 4, 2007

AOC's rhetorical agility is great, but I'm worried that she will overdo it.

Hopefully once she starts her term, she will get over the urge to personally respond to every single hater.

Slow News Day
Jul 4, 2007

Hieronymous Alloy posted:

How loving dumb do you have to be to go there, that's the island where they shoot everyone who comes close

Yep, and it is sanctioned by India. For good reason too, considering the tribespeople on the island are fully isolated and don't have things like built-up immunities to modern diseases.

Slow News Day
Jul 4, 2007

Zwabu posted:

Wouldn't closing southern border have huge economic impact? Isn't there tons of cargo coming back and forth in trucks every day?

Yes. Life in border cities such as El Paso would basically come to a grinding halt.

Slow News Day
Jul 4, 2007

Anyway, yeah, he isn't gonna do jack poo poo about the border, and even if he does, he'll get kicked in the face again by the courts.

Slow News Day
Jul 4, 2007


This is going to be a clusterfuck of epic proportions.

Slow News Day
Jul 4, 2007

No one actually answered the main question: is the article insightful?

Slow News Day
Jul 4, 2007

Hieronymous Alloy posted:

It basically uses Panera Bread as a jumping off point to discuss the problems with Milton Friedman's shareholder theory of value -- that the sole primary duty of a corporation is to enhance [in effect: short term] shareholder value, period, end of story, and everything else (employees, the environment, long-term survival, etc) are secondary.

Basically it's capitalism as a long-term prisoner's dilemma; when *everyone* is only seizing short-term advantage, all of society ends up burned on the pyre of each individual's short-term advantage.

It's a decent short article as far as it goes.


When a prisoner's dilemma collapse happens it happens fast.

Yeah, I read it just now. I didn't know the whole "companies must only care about shareholder value" thing originated with Milton Friedman. Although I'm not surprised.

quote:

n the summer of 2017, Lynn Paine and Joseph Bower, two Harvard Business School professors, published a piece in the Harvard Business Review arguing that the idea that profits are all that should matter to a company’s leadership is a relatively new one. They trace it to an essay by the free-market economist Milton Friedman, which ran in the Times Magazine in 1970. In the piece, Friedman outlined what he called the “Friedman business doctrine,” which holds that ideas of corporate social responsibility, which had become popular in the business world, were undermining the American way of life. “The businessmen believe that they are defending free enterprise when they declaim that business is not concerned ‘merely’ with profit but also with promoting desirable ‘social’ ends; that business has a ‘social conscience’ and takes seriously its responsibilities for providing employment, eliminating discrimination, avoiding pollution and whatever else may be the catchwords of the contemporary crop of reformers,” he wrote. Instead, he went on, “They are preaching pure and unadulterated socialism. Businessmen who talk this way are unwitting puppets of the intellectual forces that have been undermining the basis of a free society these last decades.” The article caused a sensation, and Friedman’s idea that managers of companies were nothing more than “agents” of shareholders was taken up by economists and business school professors, who helped build it into the dominant attitude in the United States and beyond.

What a shitfucker.

Slow News Day
Jul 4, 2007

Hieronymous Alloy posted:

Eh, in a technical sense Friedman is correct: his theory of shareholder value accurately describes the legal duties of business executives in the framework of American capitalism.

There is actually no law that dictates business executives must maximize shareholder value. They don't even have a fiduciary duty to do so.

https://corpgov.law.harvard.edu/2012/06/26/the-shareholder-value-myth/

quote:

Contrary to what many believe, U.S. corporate law does not impose any enforceable legal duty on corporate directors or executives of public corporations to maximize profits or share price. The economic case for shareholder-value maximization similarly rests on incorrect factual claims about the structure of corporations, including the mistaken claims that shareholders “own” corporations, that they have the only residual claim on the firm’s profits, and that they are principals who hire and control directors to act as their agents. Finally, there is a notable lack of persuasive empirical evidence demonstrating that individual corporations run according to the principles of shareholder value maximization perform better over time than those that are not. Worse, when we look at macroeconomic data—overall investment returns, numbers of firms choosing to go or remain public, relative economic performance of “shareholder-friendly” jurisdictions—it suggests shareholder value dogma may be economically counterproductive. Part I concludes shareholder-value ideology is based on wishful thinking, not reality. As a theory of corporate purpose, it is poised for intellectual collapse.

Slow News Day
Jul 4, 2007

luxury handset posted:

melania's new 2018 creepy white house christmas decorations do not disappoint

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tM4T4dDOtng



if it were me who made that, i would totally have snuck in an "i dont care, do u?" in there

Slow News Day
Jul 4, 2007

evilweasel posted:

The primary hold Facebook has is basically the existing data and the links you already have. I don't use my Facebook account, basically never post on it...but I don't want to delete it because it's got data that's not anywhere else and if there was Facebook 2.0 from a new company I wouldn't exactly go friend all of the people I haven't spoken to since college but i might, someday, be vaguely interested in what they're up to. I'm not real sure how you replicate that.

You can export all your data, then delete your account.

(Worth noting that your account doesn't actually get deleted, they just put an "is_deleted = true" flag on it. But for most intents and purposes it gets deleted.)

Slow News Day
Jul 4, 2007

eke out posted:

this is astonishingly damaging to his own case. these emails Corsi apparently let reporters see that HE WROTE are the clearest evidence of a conspiracy with russian hackers to date

his defense is going to be, "well, I said it appears to be the game hackers are about, so I didn't actually know it was the game!"

Slow News Day
Jul 4, 2007

evilweasel posted:

Their algorithms specifically prioritize conspiracy and radicalization content. To fix it they'd need to stop prioritizing videos in the way they do now, which is based on how many of them you're likely to watch at once or something similar iirc. They know their algorithms do this, they know it's a problem, but they're not willing to do fundamental changes because keeping you glued to the screen maximizes ad revenue and if the way to do that is conspiracy/radicalization videos then well those dump trucks don't fill themselves with money.

I don't know if ad revenue has to enter the picture, necessarily. Even if they were, say, a subscription-based ecosystem, they would behave the way they do right now. Meaning, any content platform wants to prioritize the content that is relevant to the user because that's how they retain users, and the only way they can reliably measure the relevance of a given piece of content is to measure how much the user engages with it. This is fine when content is benign (e.g. if you watch a lot of cat videos then Google will recommend more to you, which is probably a good thing?), but becomes a massive problem when you start to consider content that has a detrimental impact on both the user and on society at large.

Slow News Day fucked around with this message at 20:55 on Dec 19, 2018

Slow News Day
Jul 4, 2007


"...Perfect." --Trump, probably

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Slow News Day
Jul 4, 2007


Uh, August 7th is 8 months away. WTF?

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