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Acebuckeye13
Nov 2, 2010
Ultra Carp

That's impressively terrible.

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Acebuckeye13
Nov 2, 2010
Ultra Carp

Bored As gently caress posted:

Jim Webb would've been a good president. :(

eeeeeehhhhhhhhhh

Acebuckeye13
Nov 2, 2010
Ultra Carp

Nostalgia4Infinity posted:

Oh word?

e: let’s check in on everyone’s favorite himmler wannabe.

https://twitter.com/jordanuhl/status/1081012250469642240?s=21

Extremely normal.

Tucker Carlson is a strong contender for the biggest shithead in America in a very crowded field.

Acebuckeye13
Nov 2, 2010
Ultra Carp

Nostalgia4Butts posted:

i call him Fucker Carlson

I call him an utter disgrace to this country and the values enshrined in our founding documents, who would happily have assisted the British, the Confederates, and the Nazis if it meant elevating his own profile. His character is that of a traitor too cowardly to pick up a gun, but who would happily cheer on those who would spread terror and slaughter Innocents. He is a monster in human skin, and a testament to the sickness and depravity that lurks in the hearts of those who would value the self above all else.

bit more wordy than yours but it gets the point across

Acebuckeye13
Nov 2, 2010
Ultra Carp

It's good legislation, not just in content but in giving the Democrats something solid to campaign on right off the bat. Each of those measures is extremely popular on their own, and forcing the Republicans to vote against it in the House and to ignore it in the Senate strengthens the messaging contrast between the Democrats as being ~for the people~ and the Republicans as being power-obsessed assholes who answer only to their donors.

Acebuckeye13
Nov 2, 2010
Ultra Carp
as an expert I can safely say those are some Good Dogs.

Acebuckeye13
Nov 2, 2010
Ultra Carp
Instead of watching the speech, I played Company of Heroes 2 and ground down waves of fascist troops and tanks under the treads of my IS-2s.

definitely a more productive use of my time imo

Acebuckeye13
Nov 2, 2010
Ultra Carp

Woodchip posted:

The intro to Dr Strangelove for the arty types.

The ending of Dr Strangelove for the GIP types.

Acebuckeye13
Nov 2, 2010
Ultra Carp

LingcodKilla posted:

Holy hell track down these animals and crush them to death under their own stupid loving vehicles.

I am so loving angry

Acebuckeye13
Nov 2, 2010
Ultra Carp
I want to type out how I feel but it would quickly devolve into incoherent screaming

Acebuckeye13
Nov 2, 2010
Ultra Carp

mlmp08 posted:

Federal system is way more full with weirdos happy to work for nearly nothing and to get transferred across state lines regularly. That works better for trust fund granola types.

I'd disagree with that characterization in that nobody is happy to work for GS-4 or GS-5 money. People just put up with it because they find value in the work they do and being in the places they work.

Acebuckeye13 fucked around with this message at 21:56 on Jan 11, 2019

Acebuckeye13
Nov 2, 2010
Ultra Carp

motherfucker have you tried to find rent in the DC area?

Acebuckeye13
Nov 2, 2010
Ultra Carp

M_Gargantua posted:

got moved to cspam and is just pages of people with probations and bans for the moment

another d&d success story

The probations mostly look like Rask and Literal Tankie R. Guyovich going mad with power, so that's cool.

Acebuckeye13
Nov 2, 2010
Ultra Carp
how are they all this dumb

Acebuckeye13
Nov 2, 2010
Ultra Carp
https://twitter.com/washingtonpost/status/1086277324029358081

quote:

“After President Trump revoked the use of military aircraft to travel to Afghanistan, the delegation was prepared to fly commercially to proceed with this vital trip to meet with our commanders and troops on the front lines,” Hammill said.

Overnight, he added, a new State Department threat assessment indicated “that the President announcing this sensitive travel had significantly increased the danger to the delegation and to the troops, security, and other officials supporting the trip. . . . This morning, we learned that the Administration had leaked the commercial travel plans as well.”

Can't beat your opponents in elections at home? Get the Taliban to kill them abroad!

Acebuckeye13
Nov 2, 2010
Ultra Carp

Doc Hawkins posted:

Virgil Texas of Chapo Trap House just joined the stream.

I'm going to stop myself from any more live-posting but if you have the bucks and aren't allergic to Chelsea Manning's involvement, this is not a bad place to put them. The streamer has been making chud-mocking youtube videos for a while now, and apparently this is how politics goes now.

e: donation link

He's also a goon! And not one of the terrible ones IIRC

Acebuckeye13
Nov 2, 2010
Ultra Carp
Clear enough skies in Michigan but too goddamn cold out to watch it for any significant amount of time

Acebuckeye13
Nov 2, 2010
Ultra Carp

Icon Of Sin posted:

Hey so maybe that NPS job I interviewed for in Dec will finally get back to me about when/if I can sta-hahaha pissbaby is going to reject this one too and drag us further down :suicide:

I should be rehired in April for my job and I'm increasingly concerned that somehow the shutdown's gonna gently caress everything up.

Really hope this doesn't effect your position, the hiring process is so absurdly hosed as it is

Acebuckeye13 fucked around with this message at 23:36 on Jan 22, 2019

Acebuckeye13
Nov 2, 2010
Ultra Carp

I didn't even own one (I was an Xbox kid) but realistically I don't know how it's anything other than the PS2.

Acebuckeye13
Nov 2, 2010
Ultra Carp

Plastic_Gargoyle posted:

Don't read that thread if you value your sanity.

Alternatively, only read Chuck Boone's posts. Dude does a great job of collecting news and summarizing the horror show that the county has become. There's also great posts from thread regulars who grew up in Venezuela, though only Blue Nation is still there. It's honestly not a bad thread, so much as one that's fine for long stretches of time in between getting blown up by news that attracts D&D or CSPAM posters who seem to think that opposing Maduro automatically means you support some form of US-backed regime change that will make things even worse you guys (though they never quite explain how).

Acebuckeye13
Nov 2, 2010
Ultra Carp

Crakkerjakk posted:

I dunno, I think after our track record in the last couple decades the burden of proof is really on anyone who is pro-regime change by America to explain why this time it'll be different.

Maduro and his people are corrupt and brutal assholes, but that doesn't mean sticking our dick into another hornet's nest is going to make it better.

Nobody in the thread is actually pro-regime change :ssh:

Acebuckeye13
Nov 2, 2010
Ultra Carp

Bolow posted:

There's no good option, but the least poo poo one is probably not enabling some loving fascists so they can privatize the oil reserves after they seize power.

But poo poo this is basically us_latin_america_policy.txt. Gonna loving laugh real loving hard when the pissgolem stands down because daddy told him no though.

https://twitter.com/NBCNews/status/1088392989125341184

The opposition aren't fascists and Maduro's already sold most of the oil reserves to China. The idea that the opposition is somehow just as bad is an utter fantasy and displays a deep ignorance about why the country is in the situation that it's in.

Acebuckeye13
Nov 2, 2010
Ultra Carp

Duzzy Funlop posted:

*eyeballs current events*

Uhhh...

Takes one to know one :shepicide:

Acebuckeye13
Nov 2, 2010
Ultra Carp

BigDave posted:

Crash course?

Hugo Chavez was the former leader of Venezuela. He used oil money to shore up social programs and basically fund his social projects. 2010-ish, oil market goes batshit and crude kisses $110 a barrel. Chavez and the Venezuelans are rich as gently caress. This means cronyism, dummy jobs, cash being spread around, and any budget shortfalls are made up by oil revenues, since the oil industry is largely state controlled. Everyone is happy, so long as the money keeps pouring in.

2013, Chavez has a stroke and dies. He didn't really have a secession of power lined up like Castro, so things are kinda fubar for while. Maduro steps up from being Chavez's #2 to being the new president, and as chaotic as things are at the top, nobody cares because oil money keeps coming in.

September 2014, maybe 18 months after Chavez died, the oil market becomes glutted from North Dakotan and Texan frack oil and prices nosedive. What was once $110 a barrel is now worth maybe half that. The Saudis can withstand the shock because their cash reserves can hold out from drat near anything, but the Venezuelans have been sinking their money into cronies and make work projects for the poor, not to mentions straight up embezzlement from the powers that be. Chavez and his supporters were betting that oil prices were never going down, and when they did, they were sitting on a pile of oil that was worth maybe a quarter of what they needed it to be. People lose jobs, food lines become a sign of the times, people start loving off to Brazil and Columbia, whatever. Venezuela takes a hit, but nothing more substantial then what we went through back in '78-80.

Two years later, as Maduro consolidates his power, takes over the remains of the oil industry and other state-owned entities, things begin to look up. Prices are still low, but at least they've been stable, and Maduro double downs his bet on oil, and cranks up production to make up for the lost revenue in 2014 and 2015. Then the bottom falls out from the oil market, and a barrel of WTI Crude drops to $29 by Valentines Day 2016. THIS is where things go from 'recession' bad to 'The Road Warrior' bad. Stores empty out, the bolivar becomes virtually worthless, food lines become food riots. Cops openly shake down druggies and gangbangers for protection money, and the Venezuelan Chiefs of Staff are named as heads of a major coke smuggling ring.

So, yeah. Oil prices are heading back up, but Venezuela can't benefit from it because they took out a second mortgage on their infrastructure back in 2016 and there's nothing left to profit from.

Important addendum: While fluctuation in international oil prices have hurt the country, the far bigger problem has been price controls and a lack of investment in the state-run oil company, PDVSA. The price controls effectively prevent business from doing... well, business for a wide amount of goods, as the prices are set so low that selling basic poo poo like milk legally is done at a massive loss. This is a major reason for both scarcity and hyperinflation, and has persisted under the PSUV's government as the party loyalists in charge of state-owned industries can effectively get away with making the bare minimum to sell legally while making a massive killing selling products on the black market.

With the PDVSA, since Chavez took power the company has been dying a slow and painful death. Oil is an industry that requires a ton of capital investment and expertise, and they've lost both under the governments of Chavez and Maduro. Even during the 2000s, when oil was at an all-time high, Venezuela's oil output actually decreased because the company didn't have enough money to drill new wells, and billions of dollars have been siphoned from the company to line the pocketbooks of the PSUV's elite.

Mr. Nice! posted:

And to add to this, we are supporting an attempted coup and appear to be the backing/funding for a lot of the anti-maduro grassroots.

ehhh, sort of.

So the gist of the current situation is that back in 2018, Maduro called for a new election for a six year term. And to ensure he would win, the state election organization (The CNE) took steps to completely remove the opposition* as a threat—a bunch of candidates were either prevented from running or flat-out arrested, entire political parties were barred from participating in the election, and the apparatus of the state did everything in its power to promote Maduro over the opposition. As a result, the opposition openly refused to participate in the election, and Maduro 'won' the least attended election in Venezuelan history. A number of countries, including a wide arrangement of fellow South American states, refused to recognize the election as legitimate as a result. (Which, of course, is understandable—imagine the 2020 election, for instance, if the only people allowed to run against Trump were Jeb Bush and Joe Lieberman.)

Flash forward to January, and Maduro takes office for his second six-year term as President. Not long afterwards, however, Juan Guaidó, head of the National Assembly (The state legislature that Maduro effectively invalidated after the opposition won big in 2015) declared that because Maduro's election had been fraudulent, the office of the President was technically vacant, and following the Constitution he was now effectively the interim President. It's a "It's legal if you squint" argument, but it was enough for a wide number of countries to recognize him as President, including most of the rest of the hemisphere.

Now, news has come out over the past few days that Guaidó coordinated to a degree with other countries, including the US and many other South American countries. However, the 'coup; such as it is, is by no means armed, and seems to basically be hinging on international political and economic pressure forcing Maduro to call for new elections. Whether this will actually happen is debatable, as Maduro still has control of the military (for now) and is a stupid stubborn idiot. As Trump is also a stupid stubborn idiot, this will likely lead to disaster of some kind... but, speaking personally, I can understand why Guaidó and the opposition have decided to take this route, as there's virtually no other route anyone can see towards ending the crisis peacefully, as the PSUV has made themselves far too powerful and entrenched to be removed through normal democratic means.

*It's very much worth noting that the opposition is actually a collective of basically every other political party in Venezuela. Their makeup includes parties with a fairly wide array of beliefs (Their second and third largest component parties, for instance, are both recognized by Socialist International), but their primary objective is to remove the PSUV from power and end the self-imposed crisis they have plunged the nation into.

e: Also I describe myself as 'ostensibly Catholic' :v:

Acebuckeye13
Nov 2, 2010
Ultra Carp

not caring here posted:

So who are the options so far? Got Gabbard the psycho, Harris the horrible prosecutor, probably fuckin' Hillary, Bernie and Uncle Joe so fuckin' old they fart cobwebs, and the the CEO of starbucks who I know absolutely nothing about? That the lineup so far?

So far as official declarations go:

Elizabeth Warren
Kamala Harris
Kirsten Gillibrand
Julián Castro
Tulsi Gabbard
John Delaney (Former representative)
Pete Buttigieg (Mayor of South Bend, Indiana)
Andrew Yang (some guy)

As for people who are almost certainly going to run, but haven't announced:

Joe Biden
Bernie Sanders
Cory Booker
Sherrod Brown
Amy Klobuchar

There's a Vox article that goes over the candidates that I pulled these names from. Of everyone, Warren still probably has the best combo of not being old as gently caress, having decent policies, and having people actually know her name, but her political instincts are... questionable. But she's not Clinton, so I don't think she'd have too much trouble beating Trump in 2020 considering how there is so much to run against and that she's got decent policies to run on.

Acebuckeye13
Nov 2, 2010
Ultra Carp

Reign Of Pain posted:

Why did Kamala kick her poo poo off at Howard University if she needs the rural red to switch votes from 2016 in order to win?

She doesn't?

Part of why Trump won in 2016 was because of depressed turnout in urban areas and increased turnout in rural areas. In Michigan, for instance, Obama won by a comfortable 10 point margin with 2,564,569 votes, but Clinton underperformed Obama by about 200K votes and as a result lost to Trump by a mere 11K votes. A big part of that was lessened turnout from African-American majority cities like Detroit—so starting a campaign by appearing at a historically black college isn't a bad strategy to energize a key demographic.

Acebuckeye13
Nov 2, 2010
Ultra Carp

redneck nazgul posted:

You're not going to energize the Democratic base by putting Trump-but-Blue up there. You need to give people a reason to vote for you beyond "I'm not the other guy" and you do that through policy that people want to vote for.

Hillary ran on a combination of "I'm not Donald Trump" and "Weren't the past eight years good? Don't you want more of that?", and she lost. Part of that is that she's easily the most maligned politician (for just and unjust reasons) since Nixon. Part of that is that she ran a terrible campaign that had no substance and assumed that they had it in the bag and didn't need to fight for every vote.

For the majority of Americans, the eight years under Obama were bad. People aren't going to vote for more of the same if there's someone on the other side of the stage lying their rear end off about how much better things are going to be.

Give people something to vote for, Trump loses, and the Senate might actually be competitive. Put up a dipshit focus grouped centrist and it doesn't matter whether Trump loses or not because 2024 is plenty of time for the GOP to weaponize everything that's been revealed as broken under Trump, put a competent ghoul up there, and take advantage of the fact that dipshit centrist policies are what got us into this mess in the first place.

I disagree! I think that most people don't actually give a rat's rear end about policy, and instead will vote for the candidate that is able to give the simplest, easiest soundbites that appeal to their base desires. Bernie went from an obscure Senator that only political nerds like myself had heard of into one of the most popular politicians in America because he had simple, memorable proposals and soundbites (Medicare for all, free college, "Millionaires and Billionaires") that appealed to people, and contrasted particularly well against Clinton, who ran as Obama's third term but without any of Obama's appeal or charisma. Aside from 'protect Obamacare', none of her policies had any kind of simple or memorable soundbite that could be used to get people excited about them (Can you name any of Clinton's policies, for instance? I doubt you can!), though obviously she was hampered by the media utterly refusing to let the email scandal die. Trump, of course, ran on policies that changed by the day, but that didn't matter because he was the epitome of the Fox News candidate: An arrogant, rich blowhard who never backed down and who promised to stick it to all the people you didn't like in vague and myriad ways. People saw what they wanted to see, and voted accordingly. Personal charisma matters, and matters a lot.

Policy still matters, of course, but where I think it will matter most is in the primary—in a crowded field, candidates will be fighting for both donations and volunteers, and whoever has the policy that most appeals to the base and can vocalize it effectively is going to have a major advantage.

Acebuckeye13
Nov 2, 2010
Ultra Carp

not caring here posted:

They... want to invade Columbia? Or use Columbia as a staging are to Venezuela? And they think Columbia is gonna be fine with either?

And we'll just forget that he's carrying a notepad around with that poo poo on it.

I hope that's a photoshop.

They might be. They've taken on a huge amount of refugees from Venezuela, the Venezuelan side of the border is apparently a major hotspot for smuggling black market goods into and out of the country, and IIRC there's some FARC remnants out there as well. They're very much against Maduro, and are a part of the regional coalition against him.

Maduro's got to go, but deploying troops anywhere is an exceptionally dumb and shortsighted move so of course that's what we're doing, though 5,000 troops by themselves probably aren't going to be doing much.

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Acebuckeye13
Nov 2, 2010
Ultra Carp

MRC48B posted:

I would hope if he does run 3rd party, he pulls some of the "More money = better than" vote away from trump.

This is actually what Nate Silver thinks might happen:

https://twitter.com/NateSilver538/status/1090271422822330368?s=19

https://twitter.com/NateSilver538/status/1090273520561475590?s=19

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