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(Thread IKs: Nenonen)
What should the presidential powers be in 2020?
This poll is closed.
UNLIMITED!!!! URKKI 2.0!!!!!! 3 23.08%
Sauli should be allowed to telecast to our homes whenever he pleases, but that should be the limit. 2 15.38%
He should be limited to writing mildly worded letters to HBL and other provincial newspapers. 2 15.38%
None. More power to Sanna & Katri & Maria & Li & Anna-Maja & Jenni! 2 15.38%
Unlimited, but every decision must be subject to a plebiscite. 0 0%
None, but the president's life must be video streamed 24 /7 for the duration of their term, with no censorship. 4 30.77%
Total: 13 votes
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Ruflux
Jun 16, 2012

Surely you mean Muut: PAAVO


Kaunis lanka kyllä muuten

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Ruflux
Jun 16, 2012

Nenonen posted:

Ja on tää Lemmenjokigate taas ihan älytöntä. Jos ilmavoimat ja porhot vähän yhdessä ottavat keittoa puolustusvoimien huvilalla ja tunteet vähän kuumenevat, niin pitäisi ymmärtää että se on osa harjoitusta. Nyt sitten kaikki Salea myöten haluavat kuulla kaikki juorut. What happens in Lappi stays in Lappi!

Tää viimeinen ei pidä paikkansa koska ovat kaikki saatanallisia juorukelloja ja valitettavasti internet on levinnyt ihan Lappiinkin asti

Ruflux
Jun 16, 2012

https://www.kaleva.fi/uutiset/oulu/...uoleman/813430/

Kaleva posted:

Oulussa paljastui neljä uutta alle 15-vuotiaisiin tyttöihin kohdistunutta sek­su­aa­li­ri­ko­se­päi­lyä – epäillyt ul­ko­maa­lais­taus­tai­sia, poliisi vahvistaa yhden uhrin kuoleman

Oulun alueella on paljastunut uusia alle 15-vuotiaisiin tyttöihin kohdistuneita seksuaalirikosepäilyjä, joiden tekijöiksi epäillään ulkomaalaistaustaisia miehiä.

Oulun poliisilaitos tiedotti perjantaina aloittaneensa esitutkinnan neljästä uudesta seksuaalirikosepäilystä.

Epäiltyjen rikosten nimikkeet ovat tällä hetkellä raiskaus, törkeä lapsen seksuaalinen hyväksikäyttö ja lapsen seksuaalinen hyväksikäyttö.

Teot ovat tapahtuneet kesän 2018 aikana. Poliisi on ottanut kiinni kolme ulkomaalaistaustaista miestä todennäköisin syin epäiltyinä tekoihin.

Epäillyistä kaksi miestä on noin 20-vuotiaita ja kaksi alle 18-vuotiaita, kertoo poliisi.
Puheiden perusteella ei-kantasuomalaisen näköiset ei juuri enää uskalla kulkea baareissa ja epäilenpä että jos näitä tapauksia tulee lisää niin tilanne pahenee entisestään. Saa nähdä minkälainen lopputulema tällä vyyhdillä on maahanmuuton kannatuksen suhteen politiikassa.

Ruflux
Jun 16, 2012

No. 1 Callie Fan posted:

The female representation is kind of one dimensional in this? I mean here's your victim, your regular Finnish school girl.



Jaa milloinhan persut-manga sitten julkaistaan virallisesti, esikatseluhan näyttää sangen lupaavalta, lukeutunee varmasti genren klassikoihin aikanaan

Ruflux
Jun 16, 2012

Sharpest Crayon posted:

Uuuuuugh "”Ammattiyhdistysliikkeiden valta pitää saada vähenemään. (..) pienten ja keskisuurten yritysten pitäisi saada itse päättää työajoista ja palkoista. Uskon, että se olisi työntekijöillekin parempi.”

Yes. Letting the companies decide worktimes and wages will surely help the workers, because companies loooooove giving benefits and paying workers more than fair wages every chance they get! Hell, the union has to beat the company back with a stick so they don't spoil us rotten.

I groaned so hard at that whole libertarian utopia shitpile I didn't even wanna dignify it by posting about it. I can't really even call him a tool because he's well aware of what he's doing. gently caress the poor and all that.

Ruflux
Jun 16, 2012

Darkest Auer posted:

I unironically voted today and anyone posting itt who doesn't should get banned

En kehdannut; olin laiska; käyn äänestämässä sitten joskus

Ruflux
Jun 16, 2012

Nenonen posted:

I for one will be heartbroken if Perintäritari Oy moves to Estonia :qq:

Lmao didn't even notice that, because everyone just loving loves perintätoimistot

e: Kill all ulosottomiehet imo

Ruflux
Jun 16, 2012

No. 1 Callie Fan posted:

I see TF are applying their full spectrum approach to our local *chans, like in this video. Apparently it is working since I hear some people voting for the master "for the lulz" as the youth express it.

It's not exactly a new thing. Ylilauta has been the go-to place for irony poisoning leading from "ironic" Nazism to just plain Nazism and it's only gotten worse over the years. I think the stupid Mestari memes have been going on for years at this point. Because apparently the balding, shifty looking guy with less charisma than a house plant and a weird thing for swallowing is worthy of the title. Nazi logic, I guess.

It was inevitable that TF would go straight to the source since they were already making attempts with the ESCSPS garbage.

Ruflux
Jun 16, 2012

Nenonen posted:

Siitä suuttui SnowblindFatal,
jopa suuttui ja häpesi.
Itse läksi astumahan
rannalle merelliselle.
Tuossa loihe laulamahan,
lauloi kerran viimeisensä:
lauloi vaskisen venehen,
kuparisen umpipurren.

Itse istuvi perähän,
läksi selvälle selälle.
Virkki vielä mennessänsä,
lausui lähtiellessänsä:
"Jos viel kerran tähän maahan,
kurjaan kylmään Pohjolahan,
joku päivä, joku yö,
vuosiin päästä, huomenna,
nousoopi valtaan fasistit,
natsiliput liehuilevat,
niin siit mie teitä syytän,
osoittelen sormellani."

Herra varjele sentään

Ruflux
Jun 16, 2012

HerraS posted:

siks on parempi käydä vaan paikallisilla karvakämmenillä

Itsehän tuen laadukasta, perinteikästä ja paikallista bosnialaista perheyritystä kun haluan kebua, kuten kaikki kunnon suomalaiset

Ruflux
Jun 16, 2012

Itse tuen heseä koska ainoa paikka mikä pommittaa mua alennuskupongeilla joten jos ei huvitakaan kokata joku randomipäivä niin sama käydä kauppareissulla syömässä suhteellisesti halvinta mitä löytyy

Missäs muuten hesburgerin jatkuvista hinnankorotuksista nouseva älämölö viipyy häh, kerrosateriakin jo 50 senttiä kalliimpi kuin 2017

e: Bosnialainen sitten krapulamättönä tietenkin, muuten kokkailen itse tai joskus käyn yliopistolta mautonta paskaa hintaan 2,60e ateria

Ruflux
Jun 16, 2012

Jerry Cotton posted:

Yeah SD is going to be the largest opposition party.

If they somehow still gently caress this up I will laugh and laugh while screaming at the same time

Ruflux
Jun 16, 2012

Still can't stop laughing at MATOT ULOS


Thanks for the reminder, random group of Nazis, although I regret to inform you I aired them out last weekend when I cleaned my apartment

Ruflux
Jun 16, 2012

Sulphagnist posted:

I think the media and pundits falling over themselves to praise Halla-aho is based on a fear of repeating what happened in the US in 2016 where the media class widely beclowned itself by dismissing Trump. What followed was a still-ongoing mission to remedy this by doing repeated interviews and vox pops of the elusive Midwestern Trump voter, which is utterly beside the point and missing the true trends in the background (anti-system, anti-political, anti-elite mindset entwined with white supremacy).

They didn't tho? A big part of people's issues with the way Trump was handled by the media was how they gave him free publicity and didn't provide any counterpoints or criticism. For the most part they just repeated his lies without calling them out as such. Very few media outlets bothered to even pay lip service to standing up against his brand of bullshit and because the American voting base is what it is, it was overall a net positive for him.

In other topics, I'm considering voting on a "pick a random number" principle because all the candidates kind of suck and/or won't be elected anyway

Ruflux
Jun 16, 2012

Andrast posted:

It's eduskuntavaalit you vote for a party

Obviously but I live in loving Oulu and it tends to disillusion you when Keskusta is the automatic victor among most individual groups polled which makes me actually interested in finding whoever I agree with the most and going on that basis

Ruflux
Jun 16, 2012


Well ultimately I decided I was being a dumbass and voted for a non-rear end in a top hat party and a candidate I apparently mostly agreed with so all is well, important lessons in functioning democracy were learned and seriously I will not stop laughing if this country fucks this up yet again

Ruflux
Jun 16, 2012

Catpain Slack posted:

Buckle up, boys. Tänään tulee vitullinen jytky.

Ja vaalituloskin saattaa yllättää!

Ruflux
Jun 16, 2012

Lmao I am definitely screaming


Less laughing than I anticipated though

Ruflux
Jun 16, 2012

No. 1 Callie Fan posted:

Haha and we switched to women's ice hockey in YLE since we apparently won the finals. Priorities after all.

Turns out maybe we didn't and they're apparently checking it on video right now. A pretty good metaphor for the elections, actually.

Ruflux
Jun 16, 2012

Ruflux posted:

Turns out maybe we didn't and they're apparently checking it on video right now. A pretty good metaphor for the elections, actually.

Lmao yep, turns out after all that celebration the goal doesn't count and they're gonna play some more!

Ruflux
Jun 16, 2012

DanTheFryingPan posted:

finlandelections.txt



Vittujen vittu asia alkoi kiinnostaa vasta nyt kun tapahtui tämä käänne ja nyt tätä katsoessa meinaa sydänkohtaus tulla

Ruflux
Jun 16, 2012

Vittu ei ne voittaneetkaan

Ruflux
Jun 16, 2012

fart_man_69 posted:

Let's all post the most schizophrenic, reactionary tweets we can find, in this thread, to bring joy to our fellow posters. Just kidding don't do that please

How about iltiksen kommenttiosaston kermaa? Most of the people there (judging by the comments and the upvotes) seem absolutely convinced SDP will just be powercucked out of the government by a Perskeko 2 coalition, supplemented with KD which is funny because even Sipilä isn't that motherfucking stupid to fall for the same trick a second time and crater the smouldering remains of Keskusta's support.


Right?? Surely kepu will not pettää tällä kertaa?

Ruflux
Jun 16, 2012

You will take your half-dysfunctional, half-gently caress the poor government and you will like it

Ruflux
Jun 16, 2012

Fated To Be Fat posted:

SDP+kepu+vihr+vas+rkp

You are delusional if you think that SDP will go with Koks after the shitshow that was Kataisen hallitus.

That'd be an incredibly weak and difficult government setup and I don't think Kepu is interested in governing with the massive loss in the elections. You're delusional if you think Kok is being kept out of government this time round. It just isn't a realistic scenario.

Ruflux
Jun 16, 2012

Voisko joku lyödä Wahlroosia niin ehkä se lakkaisi olemasta niin tyhmä, kiitoksia paljon jo etukäteen

Ruflux
Jun 16, 2012

Olen vahvasti yllättänyt että kellään tässä langassa oli uskoa ja toivoa siihen että Cock ei olisi seuraavassa hallituksessa, ottaen huomioon noin aika lailla kaiken, etenkin sen että SDP on täysin kyvytön

Itse olen vain tyytyväinen että PS ei vienyt koko saatanan vaaleja ja vältettiin sentään perskok-yhdistelmä

Ruflux
Jun 16, 2012

Catpain Slack posted:

Tein meille kaikille uuden aikakauden kunniaksi avatarit



Tää on niin upea ilman kontestiakin että tästä voisi jopa tehdä foorumien uuden virallisen stupid newbie -avatarin

Näin sitä suomibrändiä rakennetaan maailmalla, yksi kuollut yhdysvaltalainen keskustelufoorumi kerrallaan!

Ruflux
Jun 16, 2012


I skimmed that earlier and lmao he's a little whiny bitch and absolutely refuses to understand anything, I'm glad he's loving gone for good

Ruflux
Jun 16, 2012

Giving Kepu maakunnat is a loving terrible idea. All it does is ensure they'll be in power at the local level throughout the country outside of Helsinki for all eternity. Sote failing and taking maakunnat with it was one of the best things that could happen, since it erased Kepu's whole power grab in one go.

Also Rinne would never do actual socialism under any circumstances. None of the major parties would.

Ruflux
Jun 16, 2012

Jerry Cotton posted:

As the inscrutable Chinaman says,

World is a gently caress.

This is basically it, yeah. The next hallitus is going to suck rear end and probably get very little done no matter what happens.

Ruflux
Jun 16, 2012

matti posted:

ylilaudan ja kaikki sen meemit sais pommittaa

Ei Suomen kulttuuriperintöä saa noin vain tuhota

Ruflux
Jun 16, 2012

I have less of a problem with teekkarit (although they suck) and more with literally every other group of university students deciding they want to get drunk in public for a week in row too. It feels more than a little unearned, just get wasted on the day before May Day like everyone else god dammit.

Ruflux
Jun 16, 2012

I'm a student too and I'm not drunk right now and haven't been for a while (because I'm poor) so I'm allowed to complain about other people's life choices

Also the past week has been full of drunk student groups on bicycles almost crashing into me or blocking the road so I'm just tired of dealing with it. Being loud and obnoxious is one thing, actively annoying other people on the roads is another. In general every student organized thing has to be oriented around drinking which has kind of gotten stale after a couple of years too so in a way I guess I don't see the point of setting aside a whole week just for it.

I'm probably just old and bitter

Ruflux
Jun 16, 2012

En ole enää koskaan vappuna selvin päin

Ruflux
Jun 16, 2012


Well to be fair apparently the cops are also looking into it. So it's more like there were multiple consequences to his actions which he decided were too much for him. Really this whole saga has so far just been a series of "but why" moments where you just can't help but wonder what the idea here was exactly. Besides general stupidity, that is.

Ruflux
Jun 16, 2012

F

Ruflux
Jun 16, 2012

Nenonen posted:

Game of Thrones season 19 update:

- happened previously: Rinne skeptical of cooperation with the Master
- Kepu, bitterly defeated, are in full wound licking mode and are apathetic of joining any government, ever
- the Master now flashed the Jeesus-Perskeko option as the Better Alternative
- several Koksut have said that Li Andersson has cooties and they can't fit in the same government - and this comes right after the prez spoke for cooperation and unity
- remarkably no Koks have categorically declined from a possible Electric Perskekoloo...
- ...but if Kepu have masochism-boners for round 2 then they are hiding it well, also there is no indication that Sipilä who was once prepared to resign because of Halla-aho would now be ready to crown him the PM
- dems fear that in a sinipunavihrkp without Vas the balance would be too far right, so now the focus is once more on trying to seduce Kepu over

If nothing comes out of this and if some people don't step back from previous statements then I don't see majority government as the likely outcome.

Recent news suggest Rinne is more open to kansanrintama+rkp than any of the other alternatives (I guess he figured out that going to government with kok is stupid as gently caress for anyone who is not kok) which means that if Kepu doesn't fail this time we might be headed for some interesting times here. PS and Kok would probably happily take their toys and go form a government on their own but I doubt that Kepu is stupid enough to get hosed over twice.

Can't help but wonder wtf is kokoomus playing at cos there's literally no reason to go "gently caress you LA we'll never go to government with you" at this stage unless they've already got something else planned but their one single option seems kind of poor.

Ruflux
Jun 16, 2012

Sulphagnist posted:

Cock and Pers are courting each other in public now, but I am failing to see where they're gonna get the third wheel. Maybe they're already expecting to be in opposition and are setting up the narrative for that?

If it's serious, I suppose Kepu betraying you is a given, so I guess that would be the third wheel, but it would sure be an interesting choice to turn away from punamulta and go for perskeko 2. The upside would be the end of Kepu as a major political force, maybe even for good?

I keep telling myself Perskeko 2.0 is an impossibility, but at the same time I also realize politicians r dum and Kepu especially is lead by literal idiots so welp. It'd be a suicide move but at the same time you already have Kepu kansanedustajat coming in strong, making statements like "if we're in the government, then it'd better be Kepu government led by Antti Rinne!" (paraphrased but you get the point) which is not only hilarious and short-sighted, but also kind of a desperate move so who knows what they're up to.

Realistically though I think Rinne wants Vas to be included, which kind of completely precludes Kok because of the massive policy difference and also because Kok kansanedustajat are literal babies. If that plan is off and sinipuna is totally off the table (which again is possible because even SDP and Kok still have some major policy differences), then Kepu better not fail because the alternative is we're getting hell-government after all with PS and Kok and I guess Kepu because who the hell else is willing to join in on that?

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Ruflux
Jun 16, 2012

Sulphagnist posted:

I wonder if taking in Putinist politicians will be the wedge that drives Halla-aho and his party from each other the same way being taking in racists like Halme and Halla-aho himself got Soini kicked out. Halla-aho's position is probably way too strong for the time being, or he'll just surrender on Russia.

I really, really hope that doesn't happen. Much as I find PS to be despicable racists and Halla-aho in particular a bad joke of a party leader, PS going the way of other right wing populist parties and bending over for Putin would be unbelievably awful if they end up actually winning the next elections. We've got enough Russia fuckery as is (see Airiston helmi and how long that whole situation was allowed to continue), I'd rather we not reverse the current trend of trying to reduce that amount.

e: Then again I think it's very possible ousting Halla-aho could just tank the party's popularity, but I'd still rather not gamble on those odds. It's too much of a risk.

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