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OhFunny
Jun 26, 2013

EXTREMELY PISSED AT THE DNC

sitchensis posted:

does the USA still not have an ambassador for Pakistan and India?

We have an ambassador to India, but not to Pakistan.

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OhFunny
Jun 26, 2013

EXTREMELY PISSED AT THE DNC
https://twitter.com/OfficialDGISPR/...ingawful.com%2F

Pakistan downplaying/denying extent of India strike.

OhFunny
Jun 26, 2013

EXTREMELY PISSED AT THE DNC
The situation in Kashmir is unresolved, but similar situations did happen during the Partition.

Kashmir was a princely state and its Hindi prince decided to join India despite Kashmir being majority Muslim. Which sparked the '47 war.

Junagadh was a Hindu majority state with a Muslim prince that choose to join Pakistan, but was invaded and annexed by India

Hyderabad was Hindu majority state ruled by a Muslim prince who opted to be independent, but was annexed by India.

Kalat was Muslim majority with a Muslim prince who also opted for independence, but acceded to Pakistan under military threat.

OhFunny
Jun 26, 2013

EXTREMELY PISSED AT THE DNC

Dante80 posted:

Yeah, that is pretty normal for the region. It is getting a little too hot though today..a lot of small arms fire too.

https://twitter.com/ZaidZamanHamid/status/1100448199804899329

Things heating up even more.

OhFunny
Jun 26, 2013

EXTREMELY PISSED AT THE DNC

Jose posted:

if they go nuclear and launch all their nukes at each other what sort of damage are we looking at?

5C temp drop. 40% global crop loss. 2-3 billion dead.

OhFunny
Jun 26, 2013

EXTREMELY PISSED AT THE DNC

Jose posted:

show your working

http://www.nucleardarkness.org/warconsequences/fivemilliontonsofsmoke/

Following a war between India and Pakistan, in which 100 Hiroshima-size (15 kiloton) nuclear weapons are detonated in the large cities of these nations, 5 million tons of smoke is lofted high into the stratosphere and is quickly spread around the world. A smoke layer forms around both Hemispheres which will remain in place for many years to block sunlight from reaching the surface of the Earth. One year after the smoke injection there would be temperature drops of several degrees C within the grain-growing interiors of Eurasia and North America. There would be a corresponding shortening of growing seasons by up to 30 days and a 10% reduction in average global precipitation.

War with 100 low-yield nuclear weapons

Summary of Consequences of Regional nuclear war between India and Pakistan(from studies done at Rutgers, the University of Colorado-Boulder and UCLA)


  • War is fought with 100 Hiroshima-size weapons (currently available in India-Pakistan arsenals), which have half of 1 percent (0.05%) of the total explosive power of all currently operational and deployed U.S.-Russian nuclear weapons
  • 20 million people die from the direct effects of the weapons, which is equal to nearly half the number of people killed during World War II
  • Weapons detonated in the largest cities of India and Pakistan create massive firestorms which produce millions of tons of smoke
  • 1 to 5 million tons of smoke quickly rise 50 km above cloud level into the stratosphere
  • The smoke spreads around the world, forming a stratospheric smoke layer that blocks sunlight from reaching the surface of Earth
  • Within 10 days following the explosions, temperatures in the Northern Hemisphere would become colder than those experienced during the pre-industrial Little Ice Age
  • These nuclear war-induced effects on temperature would be twice as large as those which followed the largest volcanic eruption in the last 500 years, in 1816, which caused “The Year Without Summer”
  • This cold weather would also cause a 10% decline in average global rainfall and a large reduction in the Asian summer monsoon.
  • 25-40% of the protective ozone layer would be destroyed at the mid-latitudes, and 50-70% would be destroyed at northern high latitudes. Massive increases of harmful UV light would result, with significantly negative effects on human, animal and plant life.
  • These changes in global climate would cause significantly shortened growing seasons in the Northern Hemisphere for at least years. It would be too cold to grow wheat in most of Canada.
  • World grain stocks, which already are at historically low levels, would be completely depleted. Grain exporting nations would likely cease exports in order to meet their own food needs.
  • Some medical experts predict that ensuing food shortages would cause hundreds of millions of already hungry people, who now depend upon food imports, to starve to death during the years following the nuclear conflict.

OhFunny has issued a correction as of 00:44 on Feb 27, 2019

OhFunny
Jun 26, 2013

EXTREMELY PISSED AT THE DNC

Jose posted:

did all the nuke testing back in the 50's/60s not equal this?

No, detonating a nuke a day in a desert or tundra is not the same as a 100 detonating over cities.


It's the cities and people in them burning in huge flamestorms that causes that amount of smoke to rise and affect the climate.

Jose posted:

yeah sorry i caught that quote at a weird time

My bad there. I tend to edit things in after.

Edit: because I :justpost:

OhFunny
Jun 26, 2013

EXTREMELY PISSED AT THE DNC

quote:

The primary source of low-background steel is ships that were constructed before the Trinity test, most famously the scuttled German World War I battleships in Scapa Flow.

Neat.

OhFunny
Jun 26, 2013

EXTREMELY PISSED AT THE DNC

Frog Act posted:

how many thousands of Muslims were murdered in the 2002 pogroms? with the BJP in power across the board a repeat of those kinds of atrocities seems like a distinct possibility

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2002_Gujarat_riots

790 Muslims and 254 Hindus is the official death count with 2,500+ injuried. Other estimates put the death total at 1,926 to 2,000+ total.

OhFunny
Jun 26, 2013

EXTREMELY PISSED AT THE DNC

Often Abbreviated posted:

They didn't seem ready to accept how outmatched Pakistan was for some time, and were pressuring anyone they could to donate arms and equipment to the Pakistanis, even dispatching a carrier group that arrived too late. If the Pakistani military hadn't completely collapsed the Nixon administration likely would have pushed for a longer conflict in the hopes of preserving Pakistan and weakening India.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Task_Force_74

quote:

On 6 and 13 December 1971, the Soviet Navy dispatched two groups of cruisers and destroyers and a submarine armed with nuclear missiles from Vladivostok; they trailed US Task Force 74 into the Indian Ocean from 18 December 1971 until 7 January 1972. The Soviets also had a nuclear submarine to help ward off the threat posed by USS Enterprise task force in the Indian Ocean.

Which wouldn't have done any good anyway as the Soviet Navy was sent as a counterbalance.

OhFunny
Jun 26, 2013

EXTREMELY PISSED AT THE DNC
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-india-kashmir-blast/blast-in-indias-jammu-and-kashmir-wounds-at-least-18-police-idUSKCN1QO0LP?il=0

Someone threw a grenade at a bus station in Jammu and wounded 18.

OhFunny
Jun 26, 2013

EXTREMELY PISSED AT THE DNC

mila kunis posted:

BJP landslide. Looks like India's #saidyestowar

BJP's on track to pick up 40+ for 324 of the 542 parliament seats. Far and away the biggest win since Rajiv Gandhi in 84.

OhFunny
Jun 26, 2013

EXTREMELY PISSED AT THE DNC
https://economictimes.indiatimes.co...ow/69736248.cms


quote:

Arvind Subramanian has just stirred the proverbial hornet's nest. In his latest research paper, the former chief economic advisor said India’s GDP growth between 2011-12 and 2016-17 was probably bumped up by about 2.5 per cent.

Instead of the reported growth of 6.9% between 2011 and 2016, actual growth was more likely to have been between 3.5% and 5.5%, says Subramanian.

"A variety of evidence—within India and across countries—suggests that India’s GDP growth has been over-stated by about 2.5 percentage points per year in the post-2011 period, with a 95 per cent confidence band of 1 percentage point,” said the research paper.

Modi's doing great!

OhFunny
Jun 26, 2013

EXTREMELY PISSED AT THE DNC
https://twitter.com/nazir_lord/status/1157146243505594370?s=19

https://twitter.com/FT/status/1157883256911605760?s=19

https://twitter.com/ahmermkhan/stat...ingawful.com%2F

Edit: Some local Kashmiri political leaders have been placed under house arrest too.

OhFunny has issued a correction as of 21:42 on Aug 4, 2019

OhFunny
Jun 26, 2013

EXTREMELY PISSED AT THE DNC

Feranon posted:

uh, so what's india doing here

just saying "gently caress it" and trying to take over kashmir for good?

what could possibly go wrong

https://m.hindustantimes.com/india-news/army-foils-pak-infiltration-bid-in-j-k-4-killed/story-xiuq5qZ75xKnJPJ3YseGjM.html

India media is saying that this is in response to, "An attempt by a group of Pakistani soldiers and terrorists to attack an army border post along the Line of Control (LoC) in Jammu and Kashmir’s Keran sector has been foiled by security forces, the Indian Army said on Saturday. Four of them were eliminated by security forces that intercepted this group."

Pakistan completes denies this happened. I'm unable figure out the truthfulness of events from Indian or Pakistan media.

OhFunny
Jun 26, 2013

EXTREMELY PISSED AT THE DNC
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-...t-idUSKCN1UU0E4

Indian officials have announced the following restrictions will be put in place at midnight local time in Srinagar until further notice:

No movement of public.
All educational institutions shall remain closed
All public meetings or rallies are banned.

OhFunny
Jun 26, 2013

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https://twitter.com/AFP/status/1158...ingawful.com%2F

Yeah. This is real bad.

OhFunny
Jun 26, 2013

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#Article370revoked was near the top of the trending charts on Twitter for me this morning. Hindu nationalists are ecstatic.

OhFunny
Jun 26, 2013

EXTREMELY PISSED AT THE DNC
Yesterday, August 6, the Indian Parliament passed by overwhelming majorities the Jammu and Kashmir Reorganisation Bill, 2019. This will split the current India state of Jammu and Kashmir into two different Union Territories (Union Territories are directly administered by the India government in New Delhi) of Jammu and Kasmir and Ladhakh.


The current India-administered Jammu and Kasmir (Pakistan and China administered regions disputed by India in light grey)



The new Union Territory of Ladhakh in red. Reduced Jammu and Kashmir to it's left.


Edit: Pakistan responding.

https://twitter.com/BBCBreaking/status/1159097153974939648?s=19

OhFunny has issued a correction as of 15:14 on Aug 7, 2019

OhFunny
Jun 26, 2013

EXTREMELY PISSED AT THE DNC
https://twitter.com/sardesairajdeep/status/1163464967821103105?s=19

Wonder what dumb thing he'll say.

https://twitter.com/miqazi/status/1163488521795047429?s=19

Locals clashing with Indian forces.

https://twitter.com/Reuters/status/1163501965365645312?s=19

I thought India would have cut the flow of water. Instead they increased it to cause flooding in Pakistan.

OhFunny
Jun 26, 2013

EXTREMELY PISSED AT THE DNC
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/08/30/world/asia/kashmir-india-pakistan.html

quote:

NEW DELHI — The Indian government imposed fresh restrictions on the disputed Kashmir region on Friday, telling people to stay off the streets as the crisis there dragged into its fourth week.

According to reports in the Indian media — foreign journalists have been barred from entering Kashmir — security forces set up barricades, more businesses closed down, and public transportation had ground to a halt.

India has imposed more restrictions ahead of today's prayers.

OhFunny
Jun 26, 2013

EXTREMELY PISSED AT THE DNC
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-...n-idUSKCN1VL04W

quote:

NAGAON/GUWAHATI, India (Reuters) - Nearly 2 million people have been left off a list of citizens released on Saturday in India’s northeastern state of Assam, after a mammoth years-long exercise to check illegal immigration from neighboring Muslim-majority Bangladesh.

Resentment against illegal immigrants has simmered for years in Assam, one of India’s poorest states, with residents blaming outsiders, many said to come from neighboring Bangladesh, for stealing their jobs and land.

quote:

His close aide, Home Minister Amit Shah, has previously vowed to weed out illegal immigrants, calling them “termites”.

India just going all in on the ethic cleansing huh?

OhFunny
Jun 26, 2013

EXTREMELY PISSED AT THE DNC
Nine dead in exchange of fire between Indian and Pakistani forces over the Line of Control in Kashmir


India has threatened trade restrictions against Turkey and Malaysia for criticizing it's crackdown on Kashmir.

India is the biggest importer of palm oil and Malaysia is the second largest exporter. India traders are already calling for a boycott:

https://m.in.investing.com/news/com...boycott-2010402

OhFunny
Jun 26, 2013

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https://twitter.com/AatishTaseer/status/1192863408435204097?s=19

Seems very fash.

https://twitter.com/AJEnglish/status/1192029613880434688?s=19

Protests in Pakistan been ongoing for the past week.

OhFunny
Jun 26, 2013

EXTREMELY PISSED AT THE DNC
https://twitter.com/AatishTaseer/status/1192863408435204097?s=19

India stripped this British-Indian dude of his Indian citizenship for an article critical of Modi that ran in the Time magazine.

OhFunny
Jun 26, 2013

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https://thewire.in/government/kashmir-internet-bond

India has restored internet access to some businesses in Kashmir provided they sign an agreement with very restrictive conditions. Internet access for regular is still off and has been for over three months. The conditions are:

1. That from the allowed IP, there will be no Social Networking, Proxies, VPNs, and Wi-Fi.

2. That no encrypted file containing any sort of Video/Photo will be uploaded.

3. That we also the have MAC binding in place to restrict Internet access to registered devices through single PC.

4. That all USB ports will be disabled on the network.

5. That the company will be responsible for any kind of beach and misuse of Internet.

6. That the company will provide complete access to all its content and infrastructure as and when required by security agencies.

OhFunny has issued a correction as of 18:19 on Nov 27, 2019

OhFunny
Jun 26, 2013

EXTREMELY PISSED AT THE DNC
Lol that Twitter bio:


Activist | Egalitarian | Believe in and Fight for a society sans Gender-based Discrimination, Prejudices & Stereotypes | Seek Justice for All | Constitutionalist

OhFunny
Jun 26, 2013

EXTREMELY PISSED AT THE DNC
^^^The Internet has been shutdown for 134 days in Kashmir.

Also:


https://twitter.com/davidfrawleyved/status/1207015259082391552?s=19

OhFunny
Jun 26, 2013

EXTREMELY PISSED AT THE DNC
https://twitter.com/BBCWorld/status/1207532266030817280?s=19

quote:

The ban has been imposed in parts of the capital Delhi, and throughout the states of Uttar Pradesh and Karnataka.

Mobile data services are suspended in some parts of Delhi close to protest sites. There have been days of protests across India, some violent.


Indians are defying the crackdown on protests so far. We'll see how far Modi goes to crush dissent.

OhFunny
Jun 26, 2013

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https://twitter.com/cjwerleman/status/1228901339595329537?s=19

Goddamn. It's getting worse and worse in India.

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OhFunny
Jun 26, 2013

EXTREMELY PISSED AT THE DNC
Indian and Chinese military agree to disengage in disputed Himalayan border

Looks like the crisis has passed.

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