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| Yes - Technical Brexit (EU Flag has a gold fringe) |
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| No - There'll be a #PeoplesVote |
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The embarassing thing is that I actually forgot that was an XKCD thing and I was thinking of some creepypasta I read ages ago.
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goddamnedtwisto posted:How disobedient are you feeling? Purely theoretically of course and based on no more than internet bullshit but paint is easy to spot and easy to clean, but allegedly hairspray over the lens will completely defeat the ANPR while being basically impossible to diagnose and, arguably, not meeting the bar of criminal damage. Could be worth a shout. In the same vein (blurring the camera rather than completely blocking it) maybe sandpaper would be effective? It is near a beach after all...
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May 31, 2019 19:44
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Julio Cruz posted:the fact that it's muddied at all is entirely down to the media rather than Labour There have been plenty of bad faith takes, but the policy has been muddied (or 'implicit') up to and through the EU elections.
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May 31, 2019 19:52
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^^^ lolradmonger posted:Excellent policy and analysis, assuming only the existence of a Labour-Tory grand coalition dedicated to delivering a soft Brexit. Well if a general election happens then that will change things a bit, but the policy - right now, with Labour out of power - is to support a second referendum on whatever deal is agreed (and this was always the case since there'd be no Labour Deal while Labour isn't in government). That's a stronger position than just "run Leave/Remain again", and for the reasons I said I think it'll weaken the Brexit vote because it limits its nebulous scope and forces people to confront and support a specific course If there is a general election, then Labour still has the same issue - the need to strike a balance between its Leave and Remain voters. Again, this cuts across Labour's base far more than the Lib Dems (who don't need to worry about securing a majority anyway), it's easy to say "bing bong come out in support of Remain and win!!!" but there's a very real possibility of losing seats as well as picking others up. It becomes easier for Labour to be pro-Remain as a bad brexit becomes more of a reality - the Tories pushing for No Deal, the EU saying time's up no more extensions, etc. By reacting to events they can argue that they really did try to find a compromise and deliver on the referendum in a positive way, but now there's no possibility of that, and Tory Brexit needs to be stopped I'm not saying there's a slick masterplan at work here, obviously not and Labour are struggling with their messaging - but this has been their approach since day one, gradually moving towards pro-2nd ref, pro-remain, and remember the PLP broadly fell in line on this, so there had to be a strategy beyond "let's try to make brexit happen!" The circumstances are complex and very tricky for Labour, it's tempting to think there's an easy strategy that will just solve everything
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May 31, 2019 20:00
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TheRat posted:https://twitter.com/AaronBastani/status/1134534516041814016 They left out "I saw Jeremy Corbyn making a shadow baby with the Red Witch Melisandre on a table in Nandos, and the baby looked at me"
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Sorry if it's already come up, but does anyone have any info about this 150 year anniversary of the communist manifesto thing people are trying to claim is Corbyn being disloyal to the Labour Party? I can't find any references to it online at all. People are saying it was a fundraiser for another party but I can't even see if that's what it was. Everyone just seems to be going from the flyer.
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May 31, 2019 20:02
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That greasy oval office has been raping again https://twitter.com/SkyNewsBreak/status/1134510743116816389?s=19
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Turns out the proposed tuition fee cap will only screw non-rich students over more:quote:As well as lowering fees to £7,500 from £9,250, Augar proposes the reintroduction of means-tested maintenance grants up to £3,000. The report also recommends extending student loan repayments from 30 to 40 years. Above inflation interest rates on student loans would also be removed – but only during the period when the student is at university – and there would also be an overall cap on total paybacks. I'm not even bothering with the fact that "£45,000 five years after graduation" is considered a middle-earner because lmao, but the repayment changes would hit people earning 35-40k almost as hard, effectively doubling the total they pay.
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SpaceCommie posted:Sorry if it's already come up, but does anyone have any info about this 150 year anniversary of the communist manifesto thing people are trying to claim is Corbyn being disloyal to the Labour Party? Chuffin' heck - 150th anniversary was 22 YEARS ago. But anyway, not seen anything about this? Where are you seeing this raised?
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Failed Imagineer posted:That greasy oval office has been raping again Why do rich fucks like this always do the same horrible crimes that involve victims that can't fight back instead of doing cool crimes like I don't know, a helicopter mock laser fight above Buckingham Palace or shooting a giant inflatable dildo missile into Parliament or bribing a group of MPs to act like Skyrim NPCs?
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OwlFancier posted:Phillip green is the BHS guy isn't he? Yeah, but he's more well known for being a racist and a sexual assaulter.
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DesperateDan posted:en some crisps and beer I guess I am so jealous. You have a duty to the internet to do this http://www.anorak.co.uk/wp-content/gallery/princess-diana-plate/ Jose posted:are these faragists in EU parliament more or less insane than the previous ones though They are sending Ann Widdecombe.  Jose posted:
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May 31, 2019 20:24
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TheRat posted:https://twitter.com/AaronBastani/status/1134534516041814016 A. Corbyn's past as a guard in Auschwitz. B. Corbyn's planning of the Omagh bombing. C. Corbyn masterminding the strikes during the Winter of Discontent D. His suggestion to raise taxes on working class bankers. E: All of the above.
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May 31, 2019 20:27
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Jaeluni Asjil posted:Chuffin' heck - 150th anniversary was 22 YEARS ago. This flyer is going around twitter and FB as a "Corbyn should be chucked out" gotcha.  I can't find out anything about this event at all though. It's being billed as a fundraiser for a rival party though, which I can't find any evidence for.
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May 31, 2019 20:29
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I personally find it most worrying that he suggested that the Jews could only guarantee they no longer suffered if they stopped breeding, shortly after he personally destroyed the Second Temple.Pochoclo posted:Why do rich fucks like this always do the same horrible crimes that involve victims that can't fight back instead of doing cool crimes like I don't know, a helicopter mock laser fight above Buckingham Palace or shooting a giant inflatable dildo missile into Parliament or bribing a group of MPs to act like Skyrim NPCs?
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May 31, 2019 20:31
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SpaceCommie posted:This flyer is going around twitter and FB as a "Corbyn should be chucked out" gotcha. Well it was at least 20 years ago, as that's when the 0171 numbers for London were phased out
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I was gonna say that flyer looks about contemporaneous with the 150th anniversary  I know the commies are a bit behind the times but even still.
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May 31, 2019 20:39
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ShaneMacGowansTeeth posted:Well it was at least 20 years ago, as that's when the 0171 numbers for London were phased out If I remember correctly that flyer is from 1998 and the rule used to expel Campbell was written on 2003.
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May 31, 2019 20:40
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Can't believe that Jeremy Corbyn paid 6d for a round of drinks at non-Labour member Karl Marx's birthday.
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May 31, 2019 20:42
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SpaceCommie posted:This flyer is going around twitter and FB as a "Corbyn should be chucked out" gotcha. point out that December 5th 2019 is a Thursday
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May 31, 2019 20:57
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Private Speech posted:Turns out the proposed tuition fee cap will only screw non-rich students over more: the average salary in the UK is 29, the median is 23 grand. So basically, it means that students will be more likely to hit the poitn where they must pay it back and then be paying it back longer. Bless the tories for spinning this as a win for students, lmao.
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May 31, 2019 21:07
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SpaceCommie posted:This flyer is going around twitter and FB as a "Corbyn should be chucked out" gotcha. You probably won't either. Because 150th anniversary was in 1997 and very very few people had internet back in those days and those that did were on 28k modems and uploading images was no easy feat (all on phone lines and internet connections would break when someone rang your phone etc). I doubt very much that a flyer from an event that long ago was thought worthy of uploading come the great day when people could easily upload stuff.
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Found the twitter thread aimed at dissing Corbyn: (the flyer is one of the posts). https://twitter.com/TimesCorbyn/status/1131485017933254656 Also: Blair reckons he was a trot at uni. https://www.independent.co.uk/news/...r-a7885446.html
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TheRat posted:If I remember correctly that flyer is from 1998 and the rule used to expel Campbell was written on 2003. And there it is ... I knew it was an old flyer but thought there must be something about it somewhere as people are pretty happy to through it out as evidence that the party is explicitly targeting anti-Corbyn elements. I was hoping to maybe (as with other attacks on him) find that it was a fairly decent multi-party event or something, but I guess speculating on an event that we know nothing about is just as valid a reason to suspend someone as literal footage of them saying they voted for another party.
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May 31, 2019 21:33
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The Conservatives did slightly better than the polls had been suggesting winning twenty nine seats (including one seat with the UUP in Northern Ireland), two seats up on five years ago. This coming despite a fall in the popular vote of just over 9% winning 33.37% of the vote. The NPP won twenty four seats with 27.09% of the vote. Labour gained six seats in total up to sixteen from ten, with 19.75% of the vote. The Major story of the night though was the total Wipeout of seats for the Liberal Democrats who are left without a single MEP after losing all six MEP's. The Socialist Alliance also lost all seven seats, and the Green's their two MEP's.
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I subscribed to the rcg newspaper some time ago but I cancelled my direct debit and they're still sending me them. I do not want your Stalinist newspaper, gently caress off
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Awful CompSloth posted:The Conservatives did slightly better than the polls had been suggesting winning twenty nine seats (including one seat with the UUP in Northern Ireland), two seats up on five years ago. This coming despite a fall in the popular vote of just over 9% winning 33.37% of the vote. The NPP won twenty four seats with 27.09% of the vote. you don't fool me that's Tony Head not Robert Webster
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Corbyn, 1995, on the idea of Arthur Scargill's Socialist Labour Party:
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TheRat posted:https://twitter.com/AaronBastani/status/1134534516041814016 lol yesterday I suggested this poll: Should we sacrifice Jeremy Corbyn? Yes Probably No answer I'll do it myself ...I didn't expect it to come true so quickly 
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Jaeluni Asjil posted:You probably won't either. Because 150th anniversary was in 1997 and very very few people had internet back in those days and those that did were on 28k modems and uploading images was no easy feat (all on phone lines and internet connections would break when someone rang your phone etc). I doubt very much that a flyer from an event that long ago was thought worthy of uploading come the great day when people could easily upload stuff. Well steady on. I had a nice fast (for the time) connection via JANET during term time and was all in on the IRC and the Usenets and the ytalk. 2400 baud modem when I was at home admittedly, but anyone who was a student back then wasn't that hard up.
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Pistol_Pete posted:I stopped watching BBC news altogether quite a while ago and I don't feel that I've lost anything by doing so. You can't compromise with a lie. Brexiteers sold the possibly-fatal destabilisation of the country as its salvation, and therefore any attempt to 'realistically' deliver on it will be seen as a betrayal because the public were promised better. A Brexit that does not let us set our own trade deals within months, kick out all the immigrants, abolish human rights, stay in the customs union, protect our expats' right to live abroad, guarantee peace in Northern Ireland, and re-establish the British Empire is not Brexit. It's a betrayal by Remoaner saboteurs unwilling and unable to properly pursue Farage's vision for Britain (a powerful and useful accusation because nobody with the power to deliver Brexit can pretend they believe this poo poo with a straight face). The architects of Brexit can get away with this because their objective is to destroy or cripple British parliamentary democracy as a political force and make mad bank in the process. Anyone who actually wants to govern the country within the current political system cannot. This is also a reason making revoking Article 50 a GE manifesto pledge is tempting. Labour will have a lot more opportunity to set the agenda and get their message out than they would in a referendum, while the Leave campaign will be disrupted and divided by having its most effective operators, Farage and Banks, stuck in a minor party with minor party airtime (or locked in a giant power-struggle with Boris or Gove within the Conservative Party if they want to merge BXP with the Tories).
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feedmegin posted:Well steady on. I had a nice fast (for the time) connection via JANET during term time and was all in on the IRC and the Usenets and the ytalk. 2400 baud modem when I was at home admittedly, but anyone who was a student back then wasn't that hard up. For us domestic users, 28k was all we had. I think I got 33k late 1997. Non-students rarely had access to these facilities and in offices, only high-ups had it (and didn't know what to do with it. Where I worked, bosses still had their secretaries print out and file all emails. I would suggest that those going to the 150th Anniversary of the Communist Manifesto would probably not have been students. Corbyn was already a pain-in-the-rear end MP by then  (We had dealings with him via work - he used to drive my boss potty - and knowing how persistent he was in constituency matters was one of the factors that I admire in him.)
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