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Miserable Maid posted:I love how Smiling Friends is a vehicle for Zach and Michael to utilize old ideas they had workshopped years prior into fully fleshed out animation. yeah. it has lots and lots and lots of oneyplays jokes from the hammer jokes to homuculus and other weird poo poo. it also reminds me alot of Aqua teen too which is nice. as much as i like stuff that has a throughline and character development along with weird edgy humor mixed with heart and poo poo(the various vivzipop stuff and old simspsons and rick and morty and etc) i do like just weird hosed up shows with lots and lots of jokes hitting all at once. Dapper_Swindler fucked around with this message at 16:51 on Jan 11, 2022 |
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JazzFlight posted:I liked it a lot but I saw the name Harry Partridge in the voice cast which I assume is the animator. I think I remember I tried to avoid his stuff recently for some reason, like he got cancelled for something? I can't remember what. I remember I just didn't really like his animations on YouTube in general. I dont think anything is chuddy per say or south park level dickhead poo poo. its more just weird mixed bag internet humor but slightly more mature then their past stuff. I did like them mocking the uber doomer types though.
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JazzFlight posted:The main one early on is the Mr. Frog one where he gets cancelled. At least the main storyline shows that Mr. Frog is actually a bad dude, so it wasn't really a mistake to take him off the air, but they also toss in the TV executive who wants to tone down all the content because it's too "toxic" and eventually results in something that isn't funny. The argument that you have to be edgy or intentionally piss people off to be funny is kind of a fallacy like the whole concept of "cancel culture" in general. i dont think its that chuddy. making fun of dumb over corrections in media at times following controversies(not even explicitly racist poo poo) and the dipshit execs in charge. Bust Rodd posted:I mean you can’t tell me The Simpsons isn’t a great example of a show over-correcting its subversive or underground comedy until it retains not a trace of what made the show funny in the first place, it’s not like that is something has literally never happened. Feels a bit reactionary to immediately leap to the CHUD conclusion, IMO. yeah that was my feel. it feels like a bit of a "this is what folks in show buensess deal with with some micro managing executive types who thinks he is a writer". JazzFlight posted:The blackface joke at the end of the Halloween episode kinda reinforced the idea, though. It seemed to reveal more of a mentality behind the show instead of just a couple jokes here and there. i kinda liked that joke simply because it was such a weird swerve at the very end and because it payed off on a joke earlier. its also a redone bit of some joke zack made about someone pulling a animal apart like a pizza. i get your point though. that being said. i dont think there is some secret chud malice behind it. its just because most of the writers are weird fucks from online and basicaly grew up on weird shithole sites and that rubs off on the humor for better or worse. Dapper_Swindler fucked around with this message at 18:08 on Jan 11, 2022 |
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Bust Rodd posted:I haven’t seen it, is the joke literally “our character is doing blackface” or is it an It’s Always Sunny/Community style joke where the joke is “it is wrong to do Blackface and the comedy comes from the white characters not understanding that” because I see a ton of that online and it’s very confusing. Getting mad at a show for making fun of racists is weird, but if it’s really just like a “ha ha black people” joke then yeah gently caress that show lol here is the joke sorta in context. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w2u2CiqWsuw basicaly the daemon monster chasing pim runs into the halloween party and a rotoscope man accuses him of wearing black face and then a bit from some old zach joke insues. Dapper_Swindler fucked around with this message at 18:24 on Jan 11, 2022 |
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Warbird posted:e;fb yeah. i think zach said they basicaly signed off one whatever ideas thrown at them art wise.
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ShortyMR.CAT posted:Binged smiling friends and its 100mph gag/joke fest. No idea if they could have made this show when the oney videos came out first. Kinda funny seeing all this nostalgic old random internet hyper poo poo on tv. Hopefully the fanbase doesnt make this a rick and Morty. thats harmons whole thing. this isn't gonna be that. i could see it maybe having an some longer plots or recurring poo poo. but i think its more aqua teen type deal but with way more weird small jokes. i still think cusak made the funniest rick and Morty thing but thats just me. i think rick and morty is hit or miss, some of them are great a bunch are meh. i think the newer stuff is better and i weirdly like the evil morty stuff.
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ShortyMR.CAT posted:The cutesack rick n morthy adventure was for sure the best thing, but im biased. I already enjoyed YoLo and all the old Michael animations on YouTube no your right. drrockso20 posted:Jontron's old stuff is still often hilarious, but the moment he became an open CHUD all his new stuff became terrible(how much correlation this has with it also being around the time he stopped doing video gaming based videos is probably something a smarter person than I could analyze), it's like being open about being a terrible person just kills any talent you have yeah, stamper ended up the same way. apparently he broke off with the newgrounds gang because everyone is successful and he is known for drawing porn and weird hosed up parodies from 10 years ago. yeah, jontron makes me sad because he is clearly a moron who just bought into chud stuff. sucks because i always found him funnier then arin.
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Bust Rodd posted:Some of the funniest most iconic golden age Simpsons episodes were written by a deeply conservative libertarian crackpot. One of the reasons The Simpsons was so popular was because outside of a small handful of episodes it functioned almost apolitically, and wasn’t at all afraid to go after either side if the joke was funny enough. ill be the rear end in a top hat and say i kinda miss that. like in that sense not in the lovely south park sense. just clever and weird but kinda hosed up humor in general. Happy Landfill posted:Would this be the thread to talk about Helluva Boss? yeah, i like that show alot. was gonna bring it up at some point but wasnt sure if i should because i know it has a mixed reseption at times. i am hoping Hazbin is good. i found the pilot a little rough but then again i was super mixed on helluva boss until episode 2. Dapper_Swindler fucked around with this message at 13:13 on Jan 12, 2022 |
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Doctor_Fruitbat posted:The last I heard about Hazbin, near enough the entire voice cast had been replaced, so it sounds like it's getting heavily reworked. The pilot wasn't completely terrible, but it was crying out for an editor to help guide it, like cutting out half of the incredibly forced expletives so it sounds natural instead of a bunch of teenagers getting carte blanche to swear for the first time. Or making sure that the central premise seems viable instead of constantly being mocked for thirty minutes straight, having the main character in a near constant breakdown and literally ending with someone keeping the hotel open so everyone can get more laughs out of it failing at her expense. Or having consistency in the character designs (like Helluva Boss manages) instead of obviously putting their friends' OCs in the background. Or not naming a character loving Vaggie. yeah i prefer helluva boss simply because i like the character designs. the imps have a semi "uniform" design as do owl people and etc. hazbin has cool potential but i am not shocked that everyone but charlie and alastor and husk are getting replaced. but i very much agree that hazbins characters designs are way too messy. like some look great but jesus. also while i agree with you, i think alot of those issues can be summed up with it being a pilot. helluva boss pilot is loving awful to a degree especially compared to the rest of the show. Bust Rodd posted:I thought Hazbin Hotel was like a meta-pilot and that idea became Helluva Boss, is that not the case? I VASTLY preferred the tone of that to Helluva Boss, and would have way rather spent more time with menacing techno glitch demons. Boss is fine, but Hazbin Hotel had me mesmerized. no. its a spin off series. same universe and poo poo. blitzo and moxxie were supposed to be side characters as were stolas but the show was too bloated and she liked the characters so she made it a side show.
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Doctor_Fruitbat posted:Yeah, I remember the HB pilot having its issues, but I haven't watched it since it first came out. i think the issues are it mostly sufferes from the problems of Hazbins pilot and is mostly the characters bitching at each other. its an ok set up though. the rest of the show is pretty solid/good in my opinion, though it gets better episode 2 onward. Anyway Smiling friends is the funniest poo poo i have seen in a long time. Dapper_Swindler fucked around with this message at 15:00 on Jan 12, 2022 |
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Happy Landfill posted:Yeah, I feel like in HB they could sometimes cut out half the expletives and it wouldn't really lose anything. Like it could tweak its focus on being a little more clever rather than crude. I also felt the same way about Harley Quinn but I think by episode 3 it largely course corrected. yeah HB being genuinly very solid to very good gives me some hope for hazbin. its clear they know how to writer funny and hosed up but also like actual chracters and relationships and poo poo. so i think they will probably tone down a bunch of poo poo for final stuff. HQ is also a very good show that smartly course corrected.
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JazzFlight posted:There are some legit feel-good tearjerker episodes in the "good" seasons of The Simpsons. Anything where they show that the family members actually love each other is really meaningful instead of being played for a quick gag. absolutly this. its what works with good adult animation, hell any good peice of media. its why i like HB, its funny alot of the time and i like the art but you actually give a gently caress about the characters and feel for them. i didnt think i would feel bad for a weird owl daemon in a broken marriage who's original trait/joke was talking dirty, but here we are. anyway. its why golden age Simpsons works so well. new Simpsons is just toned down family guy, but at least as lovely as family guy is, its made me laugh once or twice. Dapper_Swindler fucked around with this message at 23:24 on Jan 12, 2022 |
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Bust Rodd posted:There are fully grown adult humans who have been watching the Simpsons their entire lives and have never watched any of the good episodes. Sometimes I wake up at 3 AM in sleep paralysis and this is what I think about yeah. to be fair. i view ok as up to like season 11 but thats about it. i grew up with it as a kid. my parents wouldnt let me watch it but then they gave up because i was in the hospital so much. first episodes i saw were the ones with nelson and lisa and then the one with itchy and scratchy robots.
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I. M. Gei posted:It's not the sort of humor that's for everyone; if you're the kind of person that hates "lol random"-type humor then it's understandable that you may not like it. i think they will. most of the stuff i have heard about it is overwellmingly positive. it also mostly skips sex and drug jokes for the most part and the reference humor it does do is weird poo poo only weird sad 30 somethings who spend way way to much time online would get. really loving dark bjork stalker joke https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=07T95sS0omM&t also zach and mike seem like nice dudes. this dude tries to show off his cartoon to them while they are on a stream and it looks like utter generic poo poo that would be poo poo out in 2004 and everyone clearly thinks it sucks but they give actual good criticism about it and explain why the jokes are poo poo nicely. Dapper_Swindler fucked around with this message at 02:00 on Jan 13, 2022 |
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MellowMushroom posted:I've seen the first 6 Smiling Friends episodes and while I'm still liking the series more than most stuff available on TV right now, I feel like its humor falls flat in some respects. A lot of the comedy seems pulled straight from the internet (reddit, 4chan) with not much added to it. The show does have some good little moments, a quick scream or a funny looking face, but I'm feeling like people are over-hyping it. I think Zach's humor works amazing in a live setting like a podcast or a let's play, but when it's scripted, it's a little more hit or miss, to me that is. I still enjoy the show, but it's sad that no episode has been as good as the pilot, which I thought was pretty good but even that didn't blow my dick off or anything. Again maybe it's just me but some of the jokes just feel lazy, "MY CHEEEESE" and whatnot... i can understand that. i do think part of the reason i like it is because of my humor is hosed up because i spent way way to much time of my teenage years on loving ED and other bad places but there is enough clever writing that i like it for that too. like they at least know how to set up a joke and pay it off.
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with smiling friends They've said that for them, the comedy is derived from the fact that although they're funny looking, they act like real living beings... just living. I think the quote is something along the lines of "if you hit one of them with a hammer, they're like going to have a loving seizure" like the punch scene.
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Bust Rodd posted:Hmm that DOES sound like Regular Show true.
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Willo567 posted:He voices Mr. Frog in episode 2. Zach is also a semi-frequent guest on OneyPlays he isnt mr.frog. he is like some background voices. Willo567 posted:Smiling Friends is great, but I really wish Zach wouldn't associate himself with Oney, since Oney seems like an rear end in a top hat i mean there is a reason why oney never made it and Zach did. zach knows how to be a regular human being not a weird child online moron dipshit. oney doesn't. oney is apperently more put together then stamper though who loving hates all of them now. MellowMushroom posted:Michael Cusack voices Mr. Frog (so says Wikipedia). Oney does some other minor voices and some of the music, like the theme song. thats kinda my view. I am pretty sure a trans person was on the oney plays show a decent number of times among other folks. like i view oney as someone who never grew out of channer humor or stupid ED edgelord poo poo, probably a nice guy but doesnt know when to shut the gently caress up. i could very easily be wrong though/ the issue is many many online cartoonists from that era even loving vizipop had a long edgy streak. its just most of the good ones tempered it and made it funny and not hosed up or pointed it upwards or made it clever. all of them did kinda weird edgy poo poo. it matters now. its why oney will never get out of weird youtube poo poo. Dapper_Swindler fucked around with this message at 22:25 on Jan 13, 2022 |
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Vandar posted:I honestly think this was the moment I realized the Simpsons was well and truly dead and there was no coming back for it. Just the most pandering type of thing that classic era Simpsons would have roasted the hell out of it. drat. i remember when they made kang and kodos "canon".
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MellowMushroom posted:I don't use twitter so I haven't seen these tweets. I think people have a reason to be upset by his actions, no doubt, but I just see it as trolling rather than legitimate hatred, that's all. oh absolutly. he is at best a stupid manchild who doesnt know how to not be a moronic gently caress. i just don't think he is some uber bigot chud. doesnt make it better but idk.
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Bodyholes posted:There is no way it won't attract a lot of the same fans, unfortunately. I think S1 is not as strong as R+M's was which caused R+M to get overhyped but it's also less than a third the material by viewing length. i think it will attract a decent amount of fans. i am guess it will get another season or two at least.
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AlternateNu posted:WHAT THE gently caress!? It’s poo poo that’s what it is. Like poster said above me. They ran out of ideas years ago and now it’s just tamer shittier family guy. Mr.Hotkeys posted:Haven't gotten around to watching the series yet but the Smiling Friends pilot owns and I'm stoked that Marc M. finally gets to be in an actual show. Don't see many people talking about that but he's most certainly not everyone's cup of tea, though at least he seems like way less of a shithead than maybe some of his peers (just noticed his Vimeo has his pronouns listed without any kind of dumb joke so that's reassuring considering what he's up against). Yeah. I think Zach is mostly fine and unlike oney and Corey. He knows when to not go over the loving line. Like he makes hosed up edgy jokes but they aren’t hosed up weird bad poo poo like oneys tweets.
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Electric Phantasm posted:Can't believe that's the episode they dedicated to Marcia Wallace. voices to many people i guess. its also because they suck rear end. I Am Fowl posted:Simpsons doesn't have the heart anymore to do anything but stale jokes. yeah its loving awful family guy now but with out anything that makes family guy sorta funny at times.
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Space Cadet Omoly posted:They did a bunch of quick sight gags showing how EVERY character dies six feet under style: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mz5Mn1Biqeg i chuckled at a few of those. SolarFire2 posted:I do appreciate that they went with the Chief Justice of the Supreme Court Bart. same
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Crain posted:Oney and other terrible hanger-ons aside, I hope that since Zach is using old bits and jokes in his show that this one gets worked in somehow: yeah pretty much. alot of the jokes in the show are weird in jokes like that. also oney and i guess harry are the only truly crappy hangers on, the rest are fine from what i know of. Simulation883 posted:I stayed with Simpsons longer than most, watching sporadically once I hit college, but the episode that really changed my view on it was The Scorpion's Tale. Simpsons is usually somewhat grounded, with it's more magical bits being around gags and such, but this episode had peoples' eyes popping out as part of the main plot. I was so confused at first I thought it would all end up a dream sequence.(https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Scorpion%27s_Tale). oh you missed the part with homer growing up in the 90s episode. its bad apparently. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-P8ykGJXoRE
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Data Graham posted:Going mad here at The Thief & the Cobbler sinking to the level of just another weird 80s/90s animated movie that kindasorta holds up there is one i vaguely remember a weird movie from then being shown on cartoon network.. one of the characters looked like charlie chaplain and their was like living smoke or something. i just remember the cartoon network trailers.
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SolarFire2 posted:I appreciate you posting these critiques, because it distillates a huge problem I've had with modern Simpsons that I don't think I could have articulated on my own. thats a very very good point. in the good simpsons even the latter okish simpsons, it was always some weird cameo or an actual joke apperaence. the HW episode is still funny as gently caress. now a days they would have them work it out and be best friends give a 2000 gun salute or some poo poo while lisa waxes poetic in some lovely krysten sinema way. gently caress, i hate what new simpsons made lisa and flanders into.
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is it because of Henrietta Pussycat? TwoPair posted:I know I'm late to the party but I watched Centaurworld based on how much buzz it was getting in this thread and well... I guess I'll give it enough credit to say the initial plot hook is good enough for sunk cost fallacy to kick in and drag you all the way over the finish line? interesting. alot of people i talk to like it but the Humor and the art style just turned me off the from the commercials. also when the merge both art styles it just clashes to hard for my taste. like its just too fluffy. it feels like they mixed Rebecca sugar's art styles with adventure times and it came out wrong. even the daemon king is kinda ehh, he looks like someone looked at the witcher 3 leshen and made it a genic goop monster. it looks cool in motion but its just ehh. Also stupid question. is santa inc good. i know alot of animation reviewers(not even just the weird chuddy shithead ones) loving hate it and it looked unfunny as gently caress but i am curious if i/they are wrong. Dapper_Swindler fucked around with this message at 04:23 on Jan 22, 2022 |
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Parakeet vs. Phone posted:Yeah, the curse of Venture Brothers being so long-running is that there are some jokes that suck the air out of the room in re-runs. Not much that's uniquely terrible in comparison to contemporaries, and on the whole it does better than you'd think, but there are still a few there. i think the biggest problem with the show in my opinion is like the first 2 or so seasons are mostly just a more clever version of various parody shows that adult swim was full of at the time, but much like moral Orel(though overall that show mostly aged well too), it only starts getting truly interesting when they start playing with the character stories and world building they set up for their weird joke show. like the jokes are still their but they play the world and some of the characters straight.
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ninjewtsu posted:i really like both nyc seasons of VB. i agree that the show gets better as it goes on, and the start of season 6(?) where we finally get the payoff for the entire show building up jonas venture was some incredible television imo true but that arc had one of my favorite moments. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pcFPtuhnyiQ
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Happy Landfill posted:Hey look you guys. More cartoons for us grownups christ. that looks awful. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=07T95sS0omM&t i feel like zach hedel had good point about dumb poo poo like this. too much adult animation relies on either a comedians vehicle or sex/drug/big swears/gore as humor. sure shows like smiling friends, helluva boss, venture bros and other animated shows have that in spades but they also use the animation to do stuff live action shows couldn't or have actual good characters or know how to have timing or gently caress have a good art style. Mantis42 posted:On the positive side, Smiling Friends owns. yeah as a fan of south park(least various older episodes) it sucks poo poo with politics on so many levels.
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drrockso20 posted:I forget if I mentioned it here or in another thread but apparently due to the success Family Guy had after it's revival a lot of executives in the TV industry think that in order to be successful an Adult Animated show has to be ugly and poorly written and animated and for the humor to be mostly derived from the characters being sarcastic cynical assholes to each other with grotesque shock moments(whether violent, sexual, or scatological in nature) for seasoning Yeah, I absolutely not shocked by that. JazzFlight posted:Oh wow, clip content aside, I had no idea Zach actually sounded like that in real life, hahaha. I thought he was doing a funny voice for Smiling Friends. Oh yeah, Charlie is basically his regular. It’s very much a richard horvitz type deal where he basically sounds like that.
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Data Graham posted:It's like how they looked at stuff like ATHF and Space Ghost and saw that it was taking limited animation to a whole new level and still somehow being incredibly funny, sometimes specifically because the animation was hilarious even though it was simplistic as hell. yeah, also those shows are actually weird and clever with their humor, do they get very gross sometimes, sure then again, ATHF has probably the rape joke centered episode that i found funny, its not that its tasteful or good, its just the only one i ever found funny because i usually don't laugh at that poo poo. idk, the dog gaslighting carl makes me cackle every time. Dapper_Swindler fucked around with this message at 13:45 on Feb 3, 2022 |
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3HbhQYDBPKU new satina episode/short. i give the the creators patreon. she makes good poo poo and she was also an artist on smiling friends.
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Slightly Absurd posted:that's a technical foul yeah. i was hoping it was gonna be full episode 2 but apparently thats coming later this year. so thats cool. also i thought i was the only one who remembered the poo poo scene.
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drrockso20 posted:Its hard to forget seeing a weird little man get covered in feces then frozen into a "poopsicle" then later licked free by a bunch of deer who then have poo poo stains on their teeth for the rest of the movie i forgot about the deer, i remember liking the movie when i was 12 because "lol cartoon but swears and edgy humor". drrockso20 posted:See I'm probably one of the few fans of Eight Crazy Nights and I'll readily admit to that scene being unnecessarily gross and cruel, mixing two of the movie's big flaws(too many pointless gross scenes and making Whitey and Eleanor too weird and pathetic) into one nasty mix yeah. like they were too loving weird for the movies own good and everyone was a massive rear end in a top hat until the "iconic Adam Sandler speech" scene where they all feel bad and etc.
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Happy Landfill posted:The scene with the Hannaukah card always makes me tear up. There. I said it. The stupid animated Adam Sandler movie makes me feel actual emotions nah, i get that way too with moments like that in movies. obviously not a bad thing but its still weird.
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