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| Joe Biden, the Inappropriate Toucher |
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18 | 1.46% |
| Bernie Sanders, the Hand Flailer |
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665 | 54.11% |
| Elizabeth Warren, the Plan Maker |
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319 | 25.96% |
| Kamala Harris, the Cop Lord |
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26 | 2.12% |
| Cory Booker, the Super Hero Wannabe |
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5 | 0.41% |
| Julian Castro, the Twin |
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5 | 0.41% |
| Kirsten Gillibrand, the Franken Killer |
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5 | 0.41% |
| Pete Buttigieg, the Troop Sociopath |
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17 | 1.38% |
| Robert Francis O'Rourke, the Fake Latino |
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3 | 0.24% |
| Jay Inslee, the Climate Alarmist |
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8 | 0.65% |
| Marianne Williamson, the Crystal Queen |
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86 | 7.00% |
| Tulsi Gabbard, the Muslim Hater |
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23 | 1.87% |
| Andrew Yang, the $1000 Fool |
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32 | 2.60% |
| Eric Swalwell, the Insurance Wife Guy |
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2 | 0.16% |
| Amy Klobuchar, the Comb Enthusiast |
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1 | 0.08% |
| Bill de Blasio, the NYPD Most Hated |
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4 | 0.33% |
| Tim Ryan, the Dope Face |
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3 | 0.24% |
| John Hickenlooper, the Also Ran |
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7 | 0.57% |
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I love how this tool honestly thinks doing poo poo like this will get him elected president. What a goober.
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The crazy thing is everyone saying Biden has Boomer Brain, He actually isn't even a baby boomer... he is worse. He is a member of the Silent Generation, which is even more conservative and awful. They are finally getting their shot at president in 2020!!! They may have gotten swooped by the Clinton's, Bush & Obama, but now is their time right before they all die. Jack2142 fucked around with this message at 03:54 on Aug 10, 2019 |
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Aug 10, 2019 03:51
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Is the debate next month limited to ten people or is there the possibility of a few more being let in if they qualify? Because if it's limited to ten people then I'll laugh forever if Castro manages to edge out Steyer from ever being in a debate.
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Aug 10, 2019 04:01
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In case anyone forgot I'm awkward as gently caress and say awful things all the time https://twitter.com/natashakorecki/status/1159870679824687105 finally: a non PC democrat
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Aug 10, 2019 04:02
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I legitimately feel bad for Biden now, because I think his legal guardian should gently get him to drop out.
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Aug 10, 2019 04:04
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https://twitter.com/TheNVIndy/status/1159842438241894400
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Aug 10, 2019 04:27
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Warren is going to get killed by Trump.
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Aug 10, 2019 04:31
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HootTheOwl posted:Bernie is going to get killed by Trump. Fixed for you
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Aug 10, 2019 04:44
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BristolSOF posted:Trump is going to get killed by avshalom. Fixed for you
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Aug 10, 2019 04:46
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Willie Tomg posted:In case anyone forgot I'm awkward as gently caress and say awful things all the time Lol at the dude wearing a shirt with mlk quoted on it going to a pro-segregationists presidential rally
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Aug 10, 2019 04:50
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HootTheOwl posted:Warren is going to get killed by Trump.
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Aug 10, 2019 04:53
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FlamingLiberal posted:Warren would do fine, but clearly Trump wants to get his shot against Biden and I think he would destroy Biden, who apparently now has worse mush brain than Trump Trump would absolutely destroy Biden. Biden: "And because Mr. Trump continued to interrupt my answers with fart noises, and evaded answering his own questions by instead calling for the systemic elimination of minorities, I clearly am the real winner of the debate, no matter what the election results say."
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Aug 10, 2019 04:58
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I would unashamedly laugh my rear end off at a debate where Trump interrupted Biden with fart noises.
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Aug 10, 2019 05:00
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Trump would absolutely flatten Biden. Ol' Jobden is garbage at handling that kind of pressure and can't land an attack to save his life. Bernie would treat the debate like a knife fight and actually get somewhere. Warren might too, but I haven't paid enough attention to her debate style to get a feel for how she'd handle it.
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Aug 10, 2019 05:02
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Having done a comprehensive debate style analysis of every candidate, Im convinced only Inslee and Buttigieg have a chance of defeating Trump in that aspect
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Aug 10, 2019 05:12
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Son of Thunderbeast posted:I would unashamedly laugh my rear end off at a debate where Trump interrupted Biden with fart noises. Or just interrupted him with childish schoolyard insults. “You’re a fartface poopy butt!” *audience stands and applauds, media says this was the day Trump became president*
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Aug 10, 2019 05:19
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Willie Tomg posted:In case anyone forgot I'm awkward as gently caress and say awful things all the time the media keeps asking biden unfair gotcha questions like "is trump racist" and "please do not say anything racist to this group of minorities" Shear Modulus fucked around with this message at 05:26 on Aug 10, 2019 |
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Aug 10, 2019 05:23
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FlamingLiberal posted:Warren would do fine, but clearly Trump wants to get his shot against Biden and I think he would destroy Biden, who apparently now has worse mush brain than Trump It's hard to say how Warren would do, because it's unclear how much she would benefit from the full support of the media post-nomination. Currently her support base is very narrow demographically in a way that would likely translate poorly in the general election (since her supporters are mostly higher-income white people, which likely benefits her more in the primary than the general), but that could change if Democratic-aligned media supported her after her nomination. I feel like Warren would be a somewhat more popular Hillary Clinton in terms of her popularity (which would probably be enough to beat Trump). Hopefully it doesn't come to that, though. I still don't really understand why she's running. The only possibilities seem to be that she wins on the back of centrist/center-left Dems, which is bad for obvious reasons (since she'd have the wrong type of pressure on her when elected), or she wins with the support of a lot of left-leaning Dems, in which case she will have likely prevented Sanders from being nominated.
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Aug 10, 2019 05:33
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Shear Modulus posted:the media keeps asking biden unfair gotcha questions like "is trump racist" and "please do not say anything racist to this group of minorities"
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Aug 10, 2019 05:33
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HootTheOwl posted:Warren is going to get killed by Trump. the DNA test thing was pretty awkward. Warren stepped up to bat against Trump in a battle of wits and Trump just soundly defeated her. Usually Trump ignores an opponents arguments or talk over them while being demonstrably wrong to anyone with a brain. But here he set up the trap and she went right into it. She accepted his deranged parameters and stepped into his arena thinking if she had facts on her side then he would somehow admit being wrong for the first time ever in his life and also hand over free money. Instead she ended up insulting the native American community and creating the whole 1000th part native American meme.
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Aug 10, 2019 05:40
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Ytlaya posted:I still don't really understand why she's running. To get back at Trump for the Pocahontas thing. I wish I was joking.
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Aug 10, 2019 05:45
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tylersayten posted:To get back at Trump for the Pocahontas thing. I wish I was joking. Well, it's not like spite runs based on revenge for petty insults don't have a history of working out at this point...
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Aug 10, 2019 06:11
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It seems grossly optimistic to assume that Warren will beat Trump as a Hillary but better option. As if it's a do-over of '16 and Trump hasn't been president for 4 years. Trump beat Hillary as just a niche candidate. Since then he has filled the system with his people and to right wingers he has made himself a symbol of America
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Aug 10, 2019 06:15
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Ghost Leviathan posted:Well, it's not like spite runs based on revenge for petty insults don't have a history of working out at this point... The difference being Trump has 40+ years experience doing this.
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Aug 10, 2019 06:15
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I've said it many times in previous versions of this thread that people tend to over-estimate the impact of candidates and campaigns on election outcomes. Fundamentals matter a lot more. If the economic recession that is predicted to hit soon happens before the 2020 election it is likely that any democratic candidate would beat Trump. Now, the question is what happens if the economy is just iffy instead of full blown recession. If the fundamentals predict a race that is in any way close, I think Warren is probably the one who would do worst against Trump. Not because of any particular gaffes, but because her campaign has been uniquely tailored towards white educated liberals. Polls are all over the place (because different assumptions about who is going to turn out lead to wildly differing results), but virtually all of them agree on one thing: Warren has very little support outside of white, college educated voters. In the latest surveyusa poll she manages to get 0 among high school only non-white voters. Not a 0% where it's a fraction rounded down, but a literal 0. And this is a relatively favorable poll for her where she has 19% overall. In the Quinnipiac poll, which is the one most favorable to Warren (21% overall, 7 points ahead of Bernie), she is first among college educated whites (28%) and single digits among African Americans (8%, half of Bernie - Quinnipiac didn't include enough Hispanics to report on the poll). To round out her best polls, in the yougov one she is first among white voters and like 4th among Hispanic voters (they don't report education). It's not that those groups don't like her, but they clearly don't find her as appealing as others. So she does poorly precisely among the groups that have lower turn out rates.
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Aug 10, 2019 06:23
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joepinetree posted:I've said it many times in previous versions of this thread that people tend to over-estimate the impact of candidates and campaigns on election outcomes. Fundamentals matter a lot more. If the economic recession that is predicted to hit soon happens before the 2020 election it is likely that any democratic candidate would beat Trump. Now, the question is what happens if the economy is just iffy instead of full blown recession. She seems well positioned to make further gains if minority voters lose faith in their first choices. I love Bernie but he does seem to have a lot more of a high-floor low-ceiling issue hindering him due to poor favorables. I'm not stressing regardless til we're a lot closer to Iowa.
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Aug 10, 2019 06:38
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Pander posted:Major caveat being while she doesn't seem to inspire African American voters much as a first choice, she also hasn't closed any doors given how poll after poll show her favorables as sky high across all groups, uniquely so. The "high floor low ceiling" thing with Bernie is a dumb talking point that isn't reflected in polls, so this isn't true at all: code:edit: note that the recent polls that include favorability will have favorables for the entire sample (which includes republicans) and for democrats only, but doesn't break it down by race within the democratic only part. joepinetree fucked around with this message at 07:25 on Aug 10, 2019 |
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Aug 10, 2019 07:17
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Eschenique posted:It seems grossly optimistic to assume that Warren will beat Trump as a Hillary but better option. As if it's a do-over of '16 and Trump hasn't been president for 4 years. I mean he also had no record so people could just project whatever fantasies they had on a prospective Trump presidency. Now he has a record and it sucks poo poo and has provided numerous examples of his utter suck for most Americans. He has his floor, but I think his ceiling is a lot lower this time around. It probably plummets even further if we have a recession before the election and they tie it all back to his tariff slap fights with everyone.
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Aug 10, 2019 07:29
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Jack2142 posted:I mean he also had no record so people could just project whatever fantasies they had on a prospective Trump presidency. Now he has a record and it sucks poo poo and has provided numerous examples of his utter suck for most Americans. He has his floor, but I think his ceiling is a lot lower this time around. It probably plummets even further if we have a recession before the election and they tie it all back to his tariff slap fights with everyone. Eh, depends on when he gets full on back in election mode and the media continues to cling to him like a smitten teenager to provide a megaphone to get his base into full on death cult mode.
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Aug 10, 2019 08:03
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bernie is basically where obama was pre-iowa where many people liked him the best but didnt offer him as their first choice because he wasnt "electable"
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Ytlaya posted:I like how we're apparently calling "saying incredibly racist poo poo" gaffes now. Like it's just a goofy case of misspeaking. biden's behavior is hosed up. both on its merits, and viewed in isolation. but what is equally if not more hosed up is how the press is treating his so-called 'gaffes,' especially compared with other candidates' non-gaffe statements.
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Aug 10, 2019 09:29
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Finicums Wake posted:biden's behavior is hosed up. both on its merits, and viewed in isolation. but what is equally if not more hosed up is how the press is treating his so-called 'gaffes,' especially compared with other candidates' non-gaffe statements. bernie says that the three richest families own more wealth than the bottom 50% of americans, but this is only true because the bottom 50% have no net worth at all. verdict: 10 pinnochios Shear Modulus fucked around with this message at 09:44 on Aug 10, 2019 |
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Aug 10, 2019 09:42
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Shear Modulus posted:bernie says that the three richest families own more wealth than the bottom 50% of americans, but this is only true because the bottom 50% have no net worth at all. verdict: 10 pinnochios To be fair, if you're only correct because the facts and evidence support your claim, then were you really correct at all? Now, here's a 56 page Op-Ed about how Biden trying to dress a black kid up as a lawn jockey was just some harmless fun from a different time and we should really give him a break because it's important that he can beat Trump.
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Aug 10, 2019 11:21
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BristolSOF posted:Fixed for you Do you want to explain why you think this?
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Aug 10, 2019 14:40
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ELO Musk posted:Do you want to explain why you think this? I eagerly await his reply, and also same question to the "warren would" poster from just above.
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Aug 10, 2019 16:41
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Chilichimp posted:I eagerly await his reply, and also same question to the "warren would" poster from just above. Well, for one thing, Warren still hasn't taken down this website: https://facts.elizabethwarren.com/elizabeth-does-not-take-risperdal/
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Aug 10, 2019 16:45
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Chilichimp posted:I eagerly await his reply, and also same question to the "warren would" poster from just above. Because, and as evidenced by the last debate, Trump will just start talking over her, or the moderators will say her time is up and she'll just stand there either pleading or looking dumb as they do it. That's the thing about having all these plans and no pithy rhetoric. You have to explain them. Where as Bernie also has these plans but when you all him about them he can summarize them as "Medicine for all". And, of course: King of Solomon posted:Well, for one thing, Warren still hasn't taken down this website: https://facts.elizabethwarren.com/elizabeth-does-not-take-risperdal/
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Aug 10, 2019 17:28
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King of Solomon posted:Well, for one thing, Warren still hasn't taken down this website: https://facts.elizabethwarren.com/elizabeth-does-not-take-risperdal/ 'my 'NOT TAKING ANTI PSYCHOTICS' website is raising a lot of questions that are answered by the website'
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Aug 10, 2019 17:34
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I could pick the 1-2 times she looked fuckin' rad and also point out how being goaded into defender herself from crank bullshit hasn't backfired on her to this point. I can then point to Bernie's "rotate the supreme court" stuff and link you the parts of recent interviews where he (does good but) takes a while to get going on his answers. But I'm not because Bernie and Warren are both fine and neither one would get bodied by Trump and it's ludicrous to try to argue otherwise. Biden v Trump though... yikes. Who even knows. Will either of them even know?
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Chilichimp posted:I could pick the 1-2 times she looked fuckin' rad and also point out how being goaded into defender herself from crank bullshit hasn't backfired on her to this point. you're a mark if you think that warren vs trump wouldn't turn into round 2 of the clinton vs trump debates (or worse)
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