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Who do you wish to win the Democratic primaries?
This poll is closed.
Joe Biden, the Inappropriate Toucher 18 1.46%
Bernie Sanders, the Hand Flailer 665 54.11%
Elizabeth Warren, the Plan Maker 319 25.96%
Kamala Harris, the Cop Lord 26 2.12%
Cory Booker, the Super Hero Wannabe 5 0.41%
Julian Castro, the Twin 5 0.41%
Kirsten Gillibrand, the Franken Killer 5 0.41%
Pete Buttigieg, the Troop Sociopath 17 1.38%
Robert Francis O'Rourke, the Fake Latino 3 0.24%
Jay Inslee, the Climate Alarmist 8 0.65%
Marianne Williamson, the Crystal Queen 86 7.00%
Tulsi Gabbard, the Muslim Hater 23 1.87%
Andrew Yang, the $1000 Fool 32 2.60%
Eric Swalwell, the Insurance Wife Guy 2 0.16%
Amy Klobuchar, the Comb Enthusiast 1 0.08%
Bill de Blasio, the NYPD Most Hated 4 0.33%
Tim Ryan, the Dope Face 3 0.24%
John Hickenlooper, the Also Ran 7 0.57%
Total: 1229 votes
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Berke Negri
Feb 15, 2012

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Martha Stewart Undying posted:

Incrementalism is code for "you're getting nothing." Changes for the rich tend to be immediate, grand actions.

yeah we should be building hundreds of millions of new units

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Berke Negri
Feb 15, 2012

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Iron Twinkie posted:


Oh also make AirBnB illegal.

now that's a platform i'd like to see candidates get behind

Berke Negri
Feb 15, 2012

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just having a good laugh from the guy that thinks our concentration camps aren't enough

Berke Negri
Feb 15, 2012

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is it really that ballsy that's like over half the posts in here

Berke Negri
Feb 15, 2012

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she really should have run in 16

Berke Negri
Feb 15, 2012

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Shear Modulus posted:

warren was building political capital by not running in 2016

there is definitely an argument either way, and clearly warren decided not running was the more secure option, but i do think she'd be starting on a much better footing this year had she ran

Berke Negri
Feb 15, 2012

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yeah

Berke Negri
Feb 15, 2012

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tylersayten posted:

her Pocahontas bullshit

extremely cool phrasing

Berke Negri
Feb 15, 2012

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edit: definitely the wrong thread

Berke Negri
Feb 15, 2012

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creepy

Berke Negri
Feb 15, 2012

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a little weird posting

but of course the idea of cure for cancer is kind of a crapshoot cause it's never coming given how cancer works

Berke Negri
Feb 15, 2012

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Lastgirl posted:

its literally one of those pie in the sky promises compared to say, idk, free healthcare, tuition free college?


those are actually extremely feasible while curing cancer is definitely out of our spectrum at the moment (some forms are treatable, what beau biden had was basically hosed and you are hosed)

Berke Negri
Feb 15, 2012

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Lastgirl posted:

exactly, the problem with democrats now is that they worship incrementalism, but its turned into inertia because they've conceded and bargained one time too many. To cure cancer, in this hypothetical scenario, you would have to pool resources and have a global army of researchers and scientists which would cost far more money and time and resources than free college and healthcare, and ironically if you had free college, you would create more doctors, scientists and researchers in America as well so its just what the gently caress Joe

yeah i mean doing all that wouldn't really prevent much because most cancers are genetic and we're all ticking time bombs

definitely should have a candidate (unlike biden) that's actually pushing for more universal healthcare. everyone gets sick, or dies, but shouldn't be a financial crisis over it

Berke Negri
Feb 15, 2012

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Booourns posted:

Curing cancer costs money
The things that cause cancer in the first place make money
We will not be stopping cancer any time soon

i mean yeah, carcinogens can cause things, but its not like beau biden got brain cancer cause he smoked too much or ate bad food or drove too many cars

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Lastgirl posted:

i think you would have to accelerate technological advancements in the medical field that can only be achieved in your wildest dreams (it can be done to a degree) before you think about addressing the biological aspect. Things like gene splicing or altering your DNA out of the sci-fi novels. Scientists have computer mapped out new amino acid chains that have never existed in nature for example because of the unique protein folding structure which has enormous upsides and downsides, just one of many potential examples. Things like engineering out genes that cause cancer in the human population would be feasible in an egalitarian society in a century or so, given the exponential rate of development if we aren't all going to catch on fire in the next 2-3 decades. Nice to think about, still pie in the sky because if this happens in a late stage hypercapitalist society, its even more hosed up.

yeah i mean that'd be great

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Berke Negri
Feb 15, 2012

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Life has been crazy ugly the past 2 and a half years every day if youre thinking it's just now well....

that said I'm all for AOC, i trust my bartenders more than politicians so if you combine the two well,

Berke Negri
Feb 15, 2012

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yeah it's only until trump got elected i ever thought this country maybe wasn't right

Berke Negri
Feb 15, 2012

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i don't think any candidate has come out in support of banning deportations, the correct platform

Berke Negri
Feb 15, 2012

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Majorian posted:

Bernie's been using his mailing list to warn people in danger of being deported; while I'd like for him to outright say that he'll ban deportations, I think we can suss out his position pretty clearly from his actions.

given sanders' has a long record of saying we need immigration controls in order to protect american workers and social programs im not really ready to suss out that he's secretly Candidate Open Borders

do think its great for his campaign to be helping people like that though

Berke Negri
Feb 15, 2012

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lindsay beyerstein is great, long been a fan

Berke Negri
Feb 15, 2012

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Solkanar512 posted:

Yet for some loving reason every time I bring up nationalizing medical research folks ignore it or treat it as some STEMlord hand out rather than actual serious policy.

Also, watch how you use the term “holistic”, it’s been taken to also mean incorporating bullshit like homeopathy, essential oils and acupuncture.

please do not try to correct the poster that is advocating for magic

Berke Negri
Feb 15, 2012

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Gatts posted:

I still feel Biden in the lead is rigged or misunderstood polling.

he's got a lot of name recognition and sort of an incumbent advantage

that lead has been steadily dropping though

Berke Negri
Feb 15, 2012

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Mahoning posted:

Has anybody fallen harder than Beto? Dude was a legit rising star in Democratic politics and was arguably the most talked about candidate overall in the 2018 midterms. He landed the campaign manager that had been recommended by Obama and literally every Dem wanted for their campaign and loving Mayo Pete is running circles around him in the “youngish white moderate” lane of the primary. There are worse candidates in the field than Beto, but I don’t think any campaign has been as bad as his.

he always sucked he just misinterpreted people wanting him to win against cruz as people wanting him to Win

Berke Negri
Feb 15, 2012

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im not positive any of that is 101 anything

Berke Negri
Feb 15, 2012

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Punk da Bundo posted:

Trump isn’t much younger, but he projects energy.

maybe dark chaos energy

Berke Negri
Feb 15, 2012

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goethe.cx posted:

This got me thinking, has the former VP to a democratic president ever gone to win a presidential election? There’s Truman but that was a special circumstance

Humphrey, Mondale, and Gore all lost, and LBJ was so shook he didn’t even run

it's not common for VPs to win in general, regardless of party

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Berke Negri
Feb 15, 2012

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Doctor Jeep posted:

elizabeth warren is the kind of person who gets called a f****t and then triumphantly says "why that's 'a bundle of sticks' and since I am not a bundle of sticks you, sir, are wrong!" and then gets the poo poo kicked out of them anyway
there's a chance she might win because trump has been a visible moron for the last 3 years but don't count on it

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