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Edison was a dick posted:We don't talk about the weather podcast did an episode on it. Their most recent episode was also interesting, looking at a report from a right wing thinktank & former Met bigwig about Extinction Rebellion. The conclusion is more or less that their tactic of sucking up to the police and focusing on being polite and inoffensive both doesn't work very well as a protest, and is pointless in any case because the UK authorities see any anticapitalist movement as an enemy and will work to destroy it regardless of whether or not they say thank you when they get arrested. I guess XR probably got a few more reasonable centrists onside by respecting decorum, but what loving good is that? I'm sorry about your cat, forkboy.
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DesperateDan posted:I would say countdown to blaming immigrants etc for the climate but I'm certain its already begun, and I just don't have the heart to go looking at fash poo poo today to prove it. 
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Oscar Romeo Romeo posted:1) I like learning new things and enjoy it most when learning directly from another person who I can bug the hell out of with more questions. Can't really help you with an answer as to how to avoid this kind of dependency. I got told I was intimidating in my old work once and was then informed someone had specifically asked the manager if they could be put on different shifts from me. To this day, I still don’t understand it. One of my coworkers said it was my voice and the way I carry myself but she couldn’t be any more specific than “just could be a bit I guess”.  Anyone who was at the Glasgow meet can attest that I am not an intimidating person attest to it you fuckers  It’s an annoying thing for me to be labelled as because I’m a massive shitebag. I’ve mostly just made a point of doing some critical self analysis since then to make sure I keep improving how I am which has hopefully reduced whatever it was, but since I’m not in that workplace or around that person any more I couldn’t say for sure if it’s helped in that regard.
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Forkboy84 I'm really sorry to hear about your cat, I've been there  Tesseraction posted:Um, Corbyn's been pushing to legalise it since 2001 https://edm.parliament.uk/early-day-motion/20010 It doesn't surprise me to hear that is Corbyn's personal view, but I'm talking about Labour party policy. They are pretty conservative about law and order and drugs. Tesseraction posted:smdh at all these scotpol avatars thinking every labour mp is jim murphy doing different accents My labour MP is almost this bad.
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Jedit posted:I recall people here saying Extinction Rebellion were poo poo. Got any links to why? http://libcom.org/blog/extinction-r...j3PlvjgkP9YzYzg
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Sanitary Naptime posted:
He only threatened to stab us 4 times. A proverbial Saint.
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OwlFancier posted:Relatedly this is why I advocate vulnerability as a method of building trust. Especially if you can cultivate areas of yourself that you don't mind getting burned occasionally though honestly I don't think I ever have been, people are generally much nicer than you might think. 100% agree with this, despite having various traditionally competitive jobs I have yet to have anyone I’ve opened up to take advantage of it, and it’s a reliable fast track to building trust.
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The agenda for our next CLP meeting is heavily climate focused, and they're trying to get someone from XR to speak. How much poo poo should I fling?
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Sanitary Naptime posted:I got told I was intimidating in my old work once and was then informed someone had specifically asked the manager if they could be put on different shifts from me. To this day, I still don’t understand it. One of my coworkers said it was my voice and the way I carry myself but she couldn’t be any more specific than “just could be a bit I guess”. Wouldn't being a massive shitebag be a bit intimidating?  Its definitely not my voice because if you* don't speak to me then I won't say a word. I know being introverted and shy doesn't help, but its also confusing. Who ever heard of an intimidating guy who's shy? I'm trying to overcome it by forcing myself to be a bit more extroverted. Its difficult for me because I just can't stand small talk. Its bullshit and meaningless and when there is a good conversation going I'm quite happy to sit back and listen for a while before giving my own input (which might be because I've convinced myself I'm a loving idiot and will have nothing of value to contribute to the conversation). I've been able to manage the old staple of talking about the weather with random people recently, only because I've had to constantly explain no, I'm not dying, I just can't handle hot weather and would rather be in an igloo. *You being anybody.
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OwlFancier posted:
Ireland let the Catholic Church run a lot of its new society, so
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Guavanaut posted:a really poo poo Chewin' the Fat. But you repeat yourself
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Captian Kil posted:He only threatened to stab us 4 times. A proverbial Saint. Isnt that just Glaswegian for 'hello'
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Guavanaut posted:I'd watch that. Like a really poo poo Chewin' the Fat. Few in the Chat?
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Tarnop posted:The agenda for our next CLP meeting is heavily climate focused, and they're trying to get someone from XR to speak. How much poo poo should I fling? Quite a bit really, you aren't going to be inviting a climate expert or someone who want to build a movement with lasting power, you'll be inviting someone who wants to doomsay about the future of climate change and say that direct action now is the solution but not advance any actual solutions themselves. They might be interested in the Labour Green New Deal but they'll just try and get you to agree that everyone needs to be shutting places down until they get their citizens assembly and then stand down again.
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Aramoro posted:This a really weak criticism really, they want governments to do 'something' rather than just go for a wait and see approach. Building the will to do something is not strictly linked to exactly what that something is. yeah sure, but remember when they declared victory after a couple of protests because "everyone's been talking about it, SURELY now there will be legislation enacted to save the world"
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Jose posted:cool racism from the brexit party founder I mean, if you're going to start a fake racist rumour, they could at least get the name of the hospital right
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Coohoolin posted:yeah sure, but remember when they declared victory after a couple of protests because "everyone's been talking about it, SURELY now there will be legislation enacted to save the world" They definitely have a habit of pulling out of places too early - days early in London and Cardiff - but that's the whole point of their pseudo-antagonistic attitude. They want headlines about applying pressure but aren't willing to actually face off against the state so they annoy the public for a bit and then co-operate with the police when the chips are down. It's a model designed to fail and the fallout will be actual eco-terrorism or members falling into despair. Which is why groups need to be around XR but not supportive of it - to attract the frustrated XR members into useful activity.
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Guavanaut posted:Even Malaysia is considering full decriminalization now, but no legal sales of anything and you still get killed for trafficking if they decide to pursue that angle. note re: Malaysia in the west there's an archetype of a young political activist, typically male, who is highly motivated by drug legalization but otherwise holds a host of deeply reactionary cultural politics in Malaysia this has the equivalent of the young Islamist, also typically male, who has Opinions on the appropriate place of women, non-muslims, etc. in society but is otherwise indulgent of meth abuse. iran, pakistan, bangladesh all being notionally pro-harm-reduction plays into this, as has the drift in the image of addicts as partying Western expats/Western decadent corruptors to local people on meth. anyway the context here is a coalescing electoral pact between UMNO (former ruling party) and PAS (hard Islamists), hence the triple push of a lower voting age, decriminalization of unsanctioned street processions and rallies, and the drug decriminalization proposal. None of these are anti-Islamic as such (compare e.g. the move to abolish the death penalty, which the government quickly backed off from) but are nonetheless popular with the Malay liberal set on the drug decrim specifically, note that Malaysia, like Thailand and Singapore, has a presumption-of-trafficking standard (i.e. possession over a certain limit is presumed to be trafficking unless otherwise proven). These countries then set thresholds very low. The practice was that prosecutors would selectively decide what level of possession to actually write charges for, even if the individual was found with a higher amount. Hence, mandatory punishment (incl capital punishment) was actually discretionary anyway - intended in part to shield these countries against Western criticism, which was already trenchant back when the global war on drugs was kicking into high gear - recall that a certain M. Thatcher was a fierce critic of Malaysia hanging two Australians for drug trafficking. The meat of the change seems to be the Home Affairs ministry formally transferring the hoopla to the Health ministry; exactly how will have to wait for the actual Bill to materialize (right now it's not even a white paper). The domestic optics is another thing of course.
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forkboy84 posted:HOW IS THIS POSSIBLE? napster, actually. then edonkey, then kazaa, then limewire i think, then torrents? i might have done some soulseek too
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forkboy84 posted:My cat died. Well, it wasn't really mine, she was my sisters cat, but they moved somewhere else so we took her in. She was a bit old and poorly and initially not at all chill, but over the last 5 weeks she'd gotten much more comfortable coming in, eating & generally being around people. Just Monday night she was crawling between my legs while I tried to cook dinner. Didn't see her about yesterday but it was wet and she often hides under the shed to stay dry but today, noticed she was just under the shed and cold and not moving. It sucks, didn't have her for long but she'd already grown on me but it seemed she just died in her sleep which isn't the worst way to go. Not a cat who'd sit on your lap or anything but I had hopes that she'd get there eventually, she just came into the living room for the first time Monday. I'm sorry RIP kitty. If it's any consolation, cats will almost always go find somewhere quiet and alone to die, so she was probably happy hiding under the shed and passed on peacefully.
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ShaneMacGowansTeeth posted:I mean, if you're going to start a fake racist rumour, they could at least get the name of the hospital right When did Brexiteers ever let facts get in the way?
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Sorry to hear about your cat forkboy.Tesseraction posted:smdh at all these scotpol avatars thinking every labour mp is jim murphy doing different accents ShaneMacGowansTeeth posted:I mean, if you're going to start a fake racist rumour, they could at least get the name of the hospital right ronya posted:note re: Malaysia Schniff posted:One of the strategies of totalitarian regimes is to have legal regulations (criminal laws) so severe that, if taken literally, everyone is guilty of something. But then their full enforcement is withdrawn. In this way, the regime can appear merciful: ‘You see, if we wanted, we could have all of you arrested and condemned, but do not be afraid, we are lenient …’ The discussion itself is good for international optics though, because you can point and say "if even places where they hang people for dealing are looking at decriminalization, why are we not also looking at decriminalization?" Whether it turns into a hellhole of forced treatment like some other SEAsian countries is a very different matter.
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so I see we're posting cat pix again cat #1 showing the extent of his ability to wash (half a tail)  cat #2 snoozing after a hard day of lounging about
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thank u 4 ur praxis communism bitch
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^^^ What he do?Coohoolin posted:Who is this person and what did he blow the whistle on? He's the guy from BeLeave who blew the whistle on VoteLeave's illegal use of campaign funds
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they're right dirty fuckers https://twitter.com/ExposingOpenLab/status/1156613130115584006?s=20 https://twitter.com/stevelapsl/status/1156642090903834633?s=20
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XR also believe themselves to be 'beyond politics' which is just so dumb I can't comprehend it. Join a real environmental group like Reclaim the Power or the Green Anti-capitalist Front.
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OwlFancier posted:probed a tankie lol.  Jakabite posted:XR also believe themselves to be 'beyond politics' which is just so dumb I can't comprehend it.
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Jakabite posted:XR also believe themselves to be 'beyond politics' which is just so dumb I can't comprehend it. Join a real environmental group like Reclaim the Power or the Green Anti-capitalist Front. well off centrists strike again
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Guavanaut posted:I was going to joke that his next post would be glorifying the Lion of Syrian Ba'ath Arab Socialism, but then I checked last probe before that and loving megalol. E: Well you see what I think isn't political, it's just Common Sense.
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I'm sure all our problems could be solved if we just talked about it enough. Would you like a t-shirt with a catchy environmentalist message? It's made in Bangladesh so it's cheap
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