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Macdeo Lurjtux
Jul 5, 2011

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I’m gonna guess they kept all the edgelord poo poo but sanitized most of the government stuff?

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Macdeo Lurjtux
Jul 5, 2011

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BIG HEADLINE posted:

Crossed is what happens when someone says "okay, so take the Garth Ennis that made George Clooney drop out of playing Nick Fury, and turn him up to about...23 on a 10 point scale."

The true story behind it is Garth Ennis and Warren Ellis went to a con on one of the smaller British isles but ended up stranded there for a night when a bad storm rolled in. They ended up drinking all night in the hotel bar and started complaining about how boring and hackney zombie books are. Then they wagered on who could make a more hosed up zombie story.

Macdeo Lurjtux
Jul 5, 2011

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He thinks they’re voodoo zombies so he can protect his family with a circle of protection made of salt. It fails in a fashion that makes this entire show look tame.

Macdeo Lurjtux
Jul 5, 2011

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They weren’t only American supes in the comics, they were all over the place. I want to say there were even naturally occurring ones it’s just the book dealt predominantly with the ones Vought made themselves. There was a lot about comparing Vought to lovely weapons companies, especially comparing supes to the early M16’s used in Vietnam that had a horrifically high failure rate.

There was also a subplot about Butcher’s source of info, it’s wasn’t an ex-mentor but a Stan Lee analog. In the books Vought owner DC and Marvel and used it as PR for their properties. The standard heroes fight before teaming up to fight the villain story beat was invented to cover up the constant petty brawls the supes constantly got into.

Macdeo Lurjtux
Jul 5, 2011

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He and Goldberg wrote it, but apparently it went through 3-4 script doctor phases as the director/producer/star merry go round went round and round in the 4 years between writing and principal photography.

Macdeo Lurjtux
Jul 5, 2011

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McSpanky posted:

I read once that Crossed the result of a contest between Ennis and Warren Ellis to write the most hosed up things they could think of, and Blackgas was Ellis's effort.

Yeah, from Ellis has said they were at a convention on some random Welsh island, got drunk in the hotel bar and missed the last ferry back. So they went back, got drunker and the loser had to pay back the winner's tab.

Macdeo Lurjtux
Jul 5, 2011

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I never could figure out if all the terrible French was part of the character or Ennis not bothering to learn any french.

Macdeo Lurjtux
Jul 5, 2011

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Stupid_Sexy_Flander posted:

I always assumed that was just speedster healing, but you might have a point on it. The Female gets her rear end handed to her pretty horribly but is up and running around fairly quickly after that, compared to a baseline human anyway. Maybe the V gives a generic baseline power set and a specialty power? Everyone* gets the healing factor and a boost to durability and strength, but then you end up with either a signature power like Deep, or a set like Homelander, or even a basic set that's boosted like Maeve.

*that it doesn't kill, that is.

If I remember the comic correctly to get the unique powersets you need to have the V administered in vitro. Anytime else V is basically just a super steroid.

Macdeo Lurjtux
Jul 5, 2011

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I know its a padded suit and tbeyre not currently filming, but I was still a bit shocked to see how slight Antbony Starr was on that comic con panel.

Macdeo Lurjtux
Jul 5, 2011

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Yeah, that plus it'll be a total 'sharing the elevator with Bill Murray' situation.

Macdeo Lurjtux fucked around with this message at 22:59 on Jul 24, 2020

Macdeo Lurjtux
Jul 5, 2011

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Pattonesque posted:

Ennis has this thing (esp. in The Boys) where it's less about Good vs. Evil than competence vs. incompetence.

Like the president for the first part of the comic is a Halliburton man who is not presented as a good person -- but he is portrayed positively because his response to The Boys' version of 9/11 was to preemptively place everything on high alert and when the planes were hijacked anyways to immediately shoot them down (except for one, but that was Vought's fault, not his)

I'm curious if any of this will make it in the show with Vic the Veep being changed into an AoC analogue.

Macdeo Lurjtux
Jul 5, 2011

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Stupid_Sexy_Flander posted:

I'm waiting for SF to go full on white power nazi before getting the poo poo kicked out of her.

She does have those armbands that seem really well placed to have her rip the velcro off and reveal swastikas.

Though I wonder if they'll go full nazi/alt right with her. Her character so far seems pretty in line with a 'white feminist', like a Lena Dunham with super powers.

Macdeo Lurjtux
Jul 5, 2011

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CAPTAIN CAPSLOCK posted:

Watch the 3rd episode.

I did, thats what I'm referencing. If she'll go out nazi or keep it more subdued. I specifically used 'white feminism' as opposed to intersectional feminism. "White feminism is just white supremacy with pictures of salad."

Macdeo Lurjtux
Jul 5, 2011

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Eat This Glob posted:

the character has done blatantly racist poo poo (murdering a building full of black people) and said racial epithets at a japanese charachter while breaking his poo poo. why the gently caress would you think "lena dunham" about a supe named "stormfront"? :psyduck:

Dunham was probably a bad choice as an example due to her being such a lightning rod for the chuds. My point was simply there's a slot more flavors of racist shitbag than Nazi/Alt Right, one of which being the internet savvy kind that couches it's rhetoric behind more palatable messaging. Kind of like the way TERFs hide their transphobia.

Macdeo Lurjtux
Jul 5, 2011

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They could just have a a different compound that renders V inert.

Macdeo Lurjtux
Jul 5, 2011

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Azhais posted:

Probably depends if everyone at Vought knows one is the other or not. Liberty retires, and some years later here's Stormfront! Keep the immortality thing a secret from the people at large

Starlight mentions that she found proof that Vought moves her around the country every few years like a Catholic priest.

Macdeo Lurjtux
Jul 5, 2011

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Another Bill posted:

They're going to make her play for the Bears??? :ohdear:

Or fight with GI Joe.

Macdeo Lurjtux
Jul 5, 2011

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Shageletic posted:

The only real good thing about the comic, like the only really good thing in all of Ennis's work, is a pulsing virulent hatred of America's war making industry.

Something the show hasnt really gotten into yet.

Eh, I think it's more that he hates the corporate stranglehold on war. He's totally in love with the Intelligence Industry and wrote a comic about how the CIA is justified in doing their poo poo because otherwise Europe would keep getting Americans killed in their idiot wars.

Macdeo Lurjtux
Jul 5, 2011

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Khanstant posted:

It's two different powers.

I can see them going with this, she needs direct line of sight to pop heads, the milky eyes are an xray vision ability.

I realized they kind of did the same thing they did with Preacher, another show produced by Rogan. The first season of Preacher pulled a few things from later in the comics but ended up ending where the comics started. Now the Boys are going to be starting season 3 closer to the start of of the comics than they were at season1. They even have the V shot chekovs gun.

Macdeo Lurjtux
Jul 5, 2011

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Khanstant posted:

She's clearly capable of being stabbed through the eye.

Jesus that scream that Aya ripped out was loving visceral, actually made me flinch more than the over the top gore effects.

Macdeo Lurjtux
Jul 5, 2011

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Mooktastical posted:

No body, so not dead is a safe bet. Could be that or a supe axlotl tank, if Vought is trying to make more 2nd generation supes in-house

She'll come back in a wheelchair with little baby legs and arm and she slowly regens them. 5 mins earlier we saw Kimiko stand back up with a broken neck.

Macdeo Lurjtux
Jul 5, 2011

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pop fly to McGillicutty posted:

There's no market in immortality.

They can once they designed a version that breaks down after 2-3 years.

Macdeo Lurjtux
Jul 5, 2011

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BIG HEADLINE posted:

Again, I'm just hoping she's telepathic just so Frenchie can make tinfoil hats for everyone that no one (especially Butcher) wants to wear.

Rest of the series should be Frenchie making weapons to use against the supes, and then never actually getting to use them.

Macdeo Lurjtux
Jul 5, 2011

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WillyTheNewGuy posted:

He's going to be Pete Buttigieg with super powers

No matter how hard the people raising him try he's going to end up pro-corporation?

Macdeo Lurjtux
Jul 5, 2011

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Owlbear Camus posted:

The Plutonian's inciting incident for Yet Another Superman Expy to flip his lid is pretty good, too.

He's a mild-mannered TV journalist and when he spills his guts to the Lois Lane Expy, she rejects him completely for deceiving her and runs to the broadcast control room to shriek his secret identity and they immediately go live in an attempt to broadcast it. The whole Clark Kent identity that keeps him moored to humanity gets burned in a handful of seconds.

Waid's story pitch for the series was great. "Imagine how, if Superman was real, just how flooded YouTube would be with videos of him. Now imagine if he stopped one day to read the comments section of those videos."

Shame Waid whiffed the ending so hard. I think The Boys actually finished on a better note. The companion series, Incorruptible, had much better quality throughout.

Macdeo Lurjtux
Jul 5, 2011

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zoux posted:

Not art quality, the first penciller was loving dire. Tbh Irredeemable doesn't have great art either but that's non-Image indie comics for you

Actually, maybe give Incorruptible a pass too. I had forgotten about Jailbait and the main characters stance of "We can't have sex anymore because I'm a good guy now. But you turn 18 next month so. ...."

Macdeo Lurjtux
Jul 5, 2011

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The Klowner posted:

gently caress grapefruit, gently caress Fresca

Settle down there 50 Cent.

Macdeo Lurjtux
Jul 5, 2011

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He finished up a Punisher mini earlier in the year, he's certainly slowed down his output the last few years.

Macdeo Lurjtux
Jul 5, 2011

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T-man posted:

same reason he (S2 ending) didn't murder the boys and mavue: everything he has is the image of Being Homelander, the CEO showing up lasered one day ends it

And you can't really bully someone without any fear of you. Either Stan is just ice cold or he has something up his sleeve should Homelander get out of hand, either he was Stan didn't flinch and in fact scolded Himelander that really unsettled him.

Macdeo Lurjtux
Jul 5, 2011

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multijoe posted:

I wonder if Neuman could explode Homelander's head. So far the implication has been that even if everyone teamed up against him his powers are so immense they couldn't even come close, but if she could pulp his brain without even breaking the skin she could be the only person who could get him

Reading this right after the comment about The Boys turning into a sitcom made me think you were asking if Wayne Knight could give Homelander a stroke just by being creepy enough.

Macdeo Lurjtux
Jul 5, 2011

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ruddiger posted:

I steep my teabags in cups of pure warm milk.

I'm a tea purist, I'll only drink tea bought from a Chinese man with smuggled opium.

Macdeo Lurjtux
Jul 5, 2011

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Stickyboi posted:

I thought Carcetti was about politicians like Obama, full of HOPE and CHANGE but hey he'll be more effective at a higher position, so he just has to make some compromises here and there, repeat until you become president

Kind of, he was mainly about taking a few shots at the real life Carcetti https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martin_O%27Malley .

Macdeo Lurjtux
Jul 5, 2011

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Cpt_Obvious posted:

Wait, did the nazi scientists retain their holdings in Volkswagen?

Edit: And other Nazi corps?

It's the biggest reason places like Aspen and Park Place became some of the most expensive real estate in the US, Nazi's buying up tons of land in quiet communities in the Rockies that reminded them of the Alps. Hunter S Thompson actually has a bunch of articles about it from the time period when he was trying to keep them from turning Aspen into what it is today.

Macdeo Lurjtux
Jul 5, 2011

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All driving scenes look like that video of Dan Harmon yelling at himself about Scrubs.

Macdeo Lurjtux
Jul 5, 2011

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Bust Rodd posted:

The League was just “Suburban It’s Always Sunny” and it felt impossible for me to ignore the many obvious and weird parallels. The shows both got progressively more mean spirited and unhinged as they grew, but while Sunny doubled down on the core cast to great success, The League went HARD into side characters and a level of wanton cruelty that sucked all the fun out of the show for me. The AIDS house thing was pretty funny tho

Seinfeld might be the better comparison since one of the show runners wrote for Seinfeld and Curb. Almost every episode does that thing Seinfeld and Curb did where the episode ends on a callback from the first 5 minutes.

Macdeo Lurjtux
Jul 5, 2011

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ruddiger posted:

The last season of Banshee is pretty bad, I wish they didn’t treat the native Americans as such chumps through the first three seasons only to have them completely disappear in the 4th.

Maybe they decided to take a second to google if Pennsylvania had either reservations or casinos on them.

Macdeo Lurjtux
Jul 5, 2011

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Laurence Olivier said it about Dustin Hoffman. Hoffman wasn't actually method even, he was just using it as an excuse to cover his daily hangovers on the set.

Macdeo Lurjtux
Jul 5, 2011

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GD_American posted:

Just say something like “he breastfed until he was 5 and the nickname stuck” and then move the gently caress on, there’s no payoff there

Butcher said they call him that because he's as sweet as Mother's Milk in S1, don't think they need anything more than that.

Macdeo Lurjtux
Jul 5, 2011

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With Simon Pegg as Hughie.

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Macdeo Lurjtux
Jul 5, 2011

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FilthyImp posted:

Compound V is made from Super Soldier Blood! :stonklol:

Though it'd be much better if he was just kept in some holoworld because he had the Pure Uncut V that NaziGirl got and either had WW2/Nam shellshock or was just unstable

I wonder if the reveal will be that there never was an actual Soldier Boy that fought in WW2. They just found a dude with powers similar and created this elaborate mental delusion in him that he's the real deal. And left him to wake up in some random German bunker. It would certainly be a good PR spin that "oh no, the V we use is based on the defectors formula that created Soldier Boy, not Stormfront's husband."

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