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Takoluka
Jun 26, 2009

Don't look at me!



baw posted:

since youre probably talking to an old fart, better to ask them why they voted for a worthless turd who explicitly said wouldnt make any fundamental changes and then work from there

I am talking to a Warren millennial, so it's very new territory in terms of discussion for me.

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Some Guy TT
Aug 30, 2011

reminder for page three that this is not a discussion thread if youre looking for resources that arent here please ask somewhere else and post them here this thread becomes harder to use the bigger it gets

anyway to keep from running afoul of my own rule heres some useful videos thatll probably be a bitch to find in a week or two

https://twitter.com/kthalps/status/1289369293210021889

https://twitter.com/zei_squirrel/status/1288967247193616384

https://twitter.com/zei_squirrel/status/1288968406574735360

Some Guy TT
Aug 30, 2011

gradenko_2000 posted:

These were my recommendations when I was picking out books I'd read from ebook website Scribd. Not a lot of the classical Marxist literature on the list below - I can throw out some recs on that too if you'd like, but I was specifically aiming to not really get into those in the spirit of promoting "more readable" contemporary work.

quote:

in deliberate order of what I'd most highly recommend first:

"Contradictions of Capitalism: An Introduction to Marxist Economics" by Lenny Flank is a great introduction to Marxist economics. It's a little critical of the Soviet Union/Marxism-Leninism at the very end, but the first three-quarters of the book is excellent as far as the sort of thing that you might get from Das Kapital in a much more digestible form.

"A People's History of the Russian Revolution" by Neil Faulkner to get a good history of that. You can follow it up with "Rise and Fall of the Leninist State: A Marxist History of the Soviet Union" by Lenny Flank if you want to keep going.

"Liberalism: A Counter-History" by Domenico Losurdo if you want an explicit breakdown of why liberalism is a morally bankrupt ideology.

"Why Minsky Matters" by L Randall Wray for a post-Keynesian treatise on modern economics by the same people behind Modern Monetary Theory, basing their work from one of the few people who predicted 2008.

"Alternatives to Capitalism: Proposals for a Democratic Economy" by Robin Hahnel for a long discussion on an alternative economic system.

"The Origins of Capitalism" by Ellen Meiksins Wood to get a good picture on how Capitalism actually developed historically (and how Capitalism is not just "people trading stuff")

"Unspeakable" and "America: The Farewell Tour" by Chris Hedges to see how the USA has been on the road to implosion for a long time now. This may give you sadbrains - it did for me.

"Maoism and the Chinese Revolution: A Critical Introduction" by Elliott Liu if you want a backgrounder on the PRC.

"Late Victorian Holocausts" by Mike Davis if you want to know about how colonialism and imperialism has been loving over the Global South since forever.

"The City: London and the Global Power of Finance" by Tony Norfield and "Fictitious Capital" by Cedric Durand if you want to know about how financialization has transformed the economy (for the worse), which is relevant to how we got to our current market-crashing moment.

"My First Days in the White House" by Huey Long if you want Bernie Would Have Won fanfiction

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if you're not completely crack-pinged by the end of all these there's no deprogramming you

quote:

I wrote that back in March.

Other books I've read since then that I'd recommend:

"Creating Russophobia: From the Great Religious Schism to Anti-Putin Hysteria" by Guy Mettan - this is a good look into the long-term historical and political context behind Russiagate

"Listen Liberal" by Thomas Frank - this is a good single-source examination on what exactly happened to the Democratic party over the last 30-40 years such that we are where we are now.

"The Color of Law" by Richard Rothstein - this is a historical account of how the American real-estate housing market has developed in a way that reinforces and reifies anti-black racism, such that the benefits of the New Deal were mostly cordoned-off from African-Americans.

"Blood Lies: The Evidence That Every Accusation Against Joseph Stalin and the Soviet Union is False" by Grover Furr - I only include this because it is essentially a long-form refutation of the work of Timothy Snyder, a so-called historian that first gained fame with "Bloodlands", a work which equates the Holodomor and Stalin's regime as being just-as-bad as Hitler. This is of course a form of Holocaust denial by equivocation, and is relevant because Snyder has been a guest on Rachel Maddow multiple times and has since been referred to as an expert on "authoritarianism" in the context of #resisting Trump, but also while playing into Russiagate tropes, since his other prime example of authoritarianism is, of course, Vladimir Putin. If you find that interesting, then I also mentioned Domenico Losurdo's "Stalin: The History and Critique of a Black Legend" earlier in the thread, which goes further into this topic of Reductio ad Hitlerum, where the USSR is repeatedly and disingenuously equated with being as bad as Hitler for the purposes of ideologically programming people against communism.


Cpt_Obvious posted:

Quoting for future reference.

Philosophy Tube's recent Marx vs. Darwin was pretty great. And I always suggest his Marxism and Liberalism miniseries to anyone for intros into leftism

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CWF_0lkBhjY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VlLgvSduugI

They're dry, but informative and designed to speak to those unfamiliar with the topic.

Some Guy TT
Aug 30, 2011

Bootleg Trunks posted:

Why You Shouldn't Support Joe Biden For The Upcoming 2020 Election: a thread

1. Led the fight against desegregating schools

source: https://www.jacobinmag.com/2018/08/joe-biden-president-busing-racism

2. Long history of creepily groping, sniffing, kissing women and young girls

source: https://twitter.com/RAMRANTS/status/930065838387863552?s=20

...he then issued a non-apology where he tried to justify his acts

source: https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2019/06/joe-biden-iowa-2020-campaign-teenage-girl-fence-warning.html

3. Intimidated a woman when confronted about his lack of support for reproductive justice

source: https://twitter.com/thelocalmaniac8/status/1138675278933348352?s=20

4. Voted for the disastrous Iraq War

source: https://theweek.com/articles/830438/iraq-war-should-2020-issue

...and still to this day says he'd do it again

source: https://jacobinmag.com/2018/08/joe-biden-democratic-party-military-hawk

5. Wrote a racist Crime Bill

source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rinLLham9gk&feature=youtu.be

..that led to record-breaking mass incarceration

source: https://www.jacobinmag.com/2018/08/biden-crime-mass-incarceration-police-prisons

..and bragged about writing the Bill

source: https://twitter.com/shaunking/status/1124300911533350912?s=20

6. Horrible treatment of Anita Hill during Clarence Thomas hearing

source: https://theintercept.com/2019/04/27/anita-hill-joe-biden-non-apology/

7. Led a disastrous War on Drugs

source: https://www.leafly.com/news/politics/joe-bidens-drug-war-record-is-so-much-worse-than-you-think

...still opposes cannabis legalization

source: https://www.rollingstone.com/culture/culture-features/joe-biden-weed-war-drugs-candidate-2020-827319/

...despite the fact that two of his children escaped consequences for drug use

source: https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/politics/biden-tough-on-drugs-policies-did-not-apply-to-his-childrens-marijuana-and-cocaine-offenses

8. Opposed equal rights for the LGBTQ+ community until very recently

source: https://www.govtrack.us/congress/votes/104-1996/s280

9. Opposes Medicare For All

source: https://www.vox.com/2019/4/26/18515699/joe-biden-2020-presidential-campaign-medicare-for-all

10. Opposes meaningful action on the climate crisis like the Green New Deal, instead pursuing the “middle ground”

source: https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/443074-biden-crafting-more-centrist-plan-for-climate-change-policy-report

11. Voted to ban immigrants with HIV, locking Haitian refugees up in Guantanamo Bay

source: https://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/roll_call_vote_cfm.cfm?congress=103&session=1&vote=00013

12. Voted to build border walls

source: https://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/roll_call_vote_cfm.cfm?congress=109&session=2&vote=00126

13. Supported sending military to the border long before Trump

source: https://www.jacobinmag.com/2019/04/joe-biden-anti-immigrant-deportation-policies

14. Voted to expand deportations and indefinite detention for immigrants

source: https://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/roll_call_vote_cfm.cfm?congress=104&session=1&vote=00242

...multiple times

source: https://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/roll_call_vote_cfm.cfm?congress=104&session=2&vote=00108

15. Opposed amnesty for immigrants and supports requiring them to learn English

source: https://twitter.com/maryjanebern/status/1133587205308465156?s=20

16. Helped expand the system Trump now uses to commit human rights violations by 3,600%

source: https://www.thenation.com/article/archive/the-deportation-machine-obama-built-for-president-trump/

17. Does not view abortion as a choice and a right

source: https://theintercept.com/2020/03/07/joe-biden-abortion-rights/

18. Worked to undermine the ACA’s coverage of birth control

source: https://theintercept.com/2019/06/05/joe-biden-worked-to-undermine-the-affordable-care-acts-coverage-of-contraception/

19. Opposed Roe v Wade

source: https://www.jacobinmag.com/2018/08/joe-biden-abortion-president

20. Still to this day opposes federal funding for abortion

source: https://gen.medium.com/bidens-middle-ground-politics-are-bad-for-women-704fdec0a1e7

21. Racist comments

source: https://twitter.com/WalkerBragman/status/1141753425362903040?s=20

22. Defends other fellow racists

source: https://twitter.com/WalkerBragman/status/1133814010103705601?s=20

..and more racists

source: https://www.currentaffairs.org/2019/03/everybodys-chum

...AND more racists

source: https://twitter.com/QueenInYeIIow/status/1141311792003596288?s=20

23. As part of his crusade against desegregating schools he was the only member of the Senate Judiciary Committee to block two black appointees to the Department of Justice

source: https://www.huffpost.com/entry/joe-biden-busing-nominees_n_5ca3c03de4b03174b92904f7

24. Lies about marching in the Civil Rights movement

source: https://twitter.com/adamcbest/status/1135737147095429120?s=20

25. Sided with banks to overturn Glass-Steagall and deregulate, leading to financial crisis

source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aftermath_of_the_repeal_of_the_Glass%E2%80%93Steagall_Act

26. Defends billionaires hoarding wealth

source: https://www.commondreams.org/news/2018/05/09/joe-biden-clarifies-hes-no-bernie-sanders-i-dont-think-500-billionaires-are-reason

...promises to ensure it keeps happening at the expense of everyone else

source: https://www.huffpost.com/entry/joe-biden-wont-demonize-the-rich_n_5d09ac63e4b0f7b74428e4c6

..votes to slash the top income tax rate

source: https://www.huffpost.com/entry/joe-biden-2020_n_5c796502e4b087c2f295ba31

..and cripple the estate tax

source: https://www.huffpost.com/entry/republicans-push-269-bill_n_7061458

..resulting in $83 billion lost annually

source: https://taxfoundation.org/modeling-economic-effects-past-tax-bills/

27. Plagiarized fossil fuel groups’ language in his woefully inadequate climate crisis plan

source: https://truthout.org/articles/biden-campaign-admits-lifting-section-of-climate-plan-from-fossil-fuel-groups/

28. Architected Plan Colombia, internationalizing the War On Drugs resulting in mass death, displacement, and destruction of food crops, while opening the country to US business interests

source: https://www.jacobinmag.com/2019/04/joe-biden-anti-immigrant-deportation-policies

29. Supports Israel’s right-wing regime and apartheid in Palestine

source: https://jacobinmag.com/2018/08/joe-biden-democratic-party-military-hawk

30. Sides with Trump in backing right-wing coup in Venezuela

source: https://www.commondreams.org/news/2019/05/01/biden-sides-trump-bolton-and-pompeo-backing-coup-effort-venezuela

31. Voted against abolishing the electoral college that undemocratically elected Bush and Trump

source: https://www.govtrack.us/congress/votes/96-1979/s161

32. Voted against enhancing labor protection enforcements

source: https://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/roll_call_vote_cfm.cfm?congress=109&session=2&vote=00141

33. Says the CIA torture report is not a “black stain on this country” but a “badge of honor”

source: https://twitter.com/eshaLegal/status/1137412059510050816?s=20

34. Is still openly courting Republican billionaires for donations, including John Catsimatidis, who’s compared taxing the wealthy to Nazi persecution of Jews

source: https://www.cnbc.com/2019/06/18/bil...er&par=sharebar

35. His administration awarded a $1.5 billion contract to his brother’s construction firm despite his brother having no prior residential construction experience

source: https://nypost.com/2012/10/23/crony-capitalism-joe-bidens-brother/

36. Funded by lobbyists

source: https://www.commondreams.org/news/2019/04/25/hours-after-entering-2020-race-biden-attend-big-money-fundraiser-hosted-comcast-blue

...and partakes in general corruption

source: https://www.jacobinmag.com/2018/08/joe-biden-neoliberal-democrat-conservative-lobbying

37. Voted to deregulate the credit card industry while a credit card company was his top donor from 1989–2000 and then hired his son

source: https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/middle-class-joe-cozied-up-to-credit-card-companies-and-made-filing-for-bankruptcy-harder

38. Used Charlottesville as a prop in his campaign video despite never even visiting once

source: https://www.huffpost.com/entry/charlottesville-activists-dont-want-joe-biden-to-use-city-as-a-campaign-prop_n_5cc200d2e4b0e56130eeaafd

The worst part? He isn't sorry for any of this

https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/437582-biden-im-not-sorry-for-anything-that-i-have-ever-done

so gently caress Joe Biden
gently caress anyone who supports him
and gently caress the party that backs him

Bootleg Trunks posted:

Oh boy kamala!

-She supported a law that forces schools to turn undocumented students over to ICE, separating them from their parents. source:

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/kamala-harris-san-francisco-immigrant-policy_n_5c758153e4b0bf166204509b

-Supported and funded a bill that would criminalize truancy, disproportionately harming single parent households, the poor, families of color and homeless mothers. source:

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/kamala-harris-truancy-arrests-2020-progressive-prosecutor_n_5c995789e4b0f7bfa1b57d2e

https://twitter.com/WalkerBragman/status/1089974205284798464?s=20

-Declined to prosecute Steven Mnuchin after his bank’s predatory lending and foreclosure fraud broke the law “over a thousand” times and ruined the lives of thousands of homeowners. source:

https://theintercept.com/2017/01/03/treasury-nominee-steve-mnuchins-bank-accused-of-widespread-misconduct-in-leaked-memo/

...he later donated to her campaign source:

https://www.rollcall.com/2017/02/14/harris-was-only-2016-senate-democratic-candidate-to-get-cash-from-mnuchin/

-She spent years jailing disproportionately black nonviolent cannabis users source:

https://afropunk.com/2019/01/kamala-harris-has-been-tough-on-black-people-not-crime/

she then tried to pander by admitting to smoking herself despite prosecuting others source:

https://www.marijuanamoment.net/kamala-harriss-snoopgate-is-what-a-political-marijuana-controversy-looks-like-in-2019/

-Stopped the release of a man serving 27 years-to-life after being wrongfully convicted of possession of a knife under the three-strikes law she supported. source:

https://www.jacobinmag.com/2017/08/kamala-harris-trump-obama-california-attorney-general

...and when civil rights groups and nearly 100,000 petition signatures got him released after 14 years she took him back to court again for a crime he didn’t commit source:

https://www.scpr.org/news/2013/07/31/38460/san-fernando-valley-man-s-freedom-hangs-in-appeal/

-Opposed reforming California’s three-strikes law, which is the only one in the country to impose life sentences for minor felonies and incarcerates black people at 12x the rate as white people source:

https://www.thenation.com/article/archive/reforming-three-strikes/

...she opposed the law THREE different times source:

https://www.thenation.com/article/archive/reforming-three-strikes/

-Protected serial child rapists by refusing to prosecute in the Catholic Church sex abuse scandal source:

https://theintercept.com/2019/06/09/kamala-harris-san-francisco-catholic-church-child-abuse/

-Tried to deny a transgender inmate healthcare and endangered trans women by forcing them into mens prisons. source:

https://www.washingtonblade.com/2015/05/05/harris-renews-effort-to-block-gender-reassignment-for-trans-inmate/

-Stood by silently as $730 million was spent on moving inmates to for-profit private prisons source:


https://www.mercurynews.com/2013/08/29/mercury-news-editorial-kamala-harris-needs-to-tackle-prison-standoff/

-Voted two different times to block federal funding for abortions source:
https://www.politico.com/newsletters/playbook/2019/06/06/guess-who-else-voted-against-federal-funding-for-abortion-443667

-She supports Trump escalating war in Syria source:

https://thegrayzone.com/2019/05/24/bipartisan-war-congress-trump-syria-iran-russia-hezbollah/

-Voted to give Trump increased military spending source:

https://justfacts.votesmart.org/bill/23430/61033/120012/national-defense-authorization-act-for-fiscal-year-2018#.XQQgLtNKifQ

...she did that TWICE:

https://justfacts.votesmart.org/bil...19#.XQQhV9NKifQ

-Mocks the activist call to “build more schools, less jails” source:

https://twitter.com/_waleedshahid/status/1090067362907340800?s=20

-Accepted thousands of dollars of campaign funds from Donald and Ivanka Trump multiple times source:

https://www.sacbee.com/news/politics-government/capitol-alert/article226975319.html

-Opposed legalization of sex work source:


http://www.laweekly.com/a-new-movement-to-legalize-prostitution-faces-a-fight-with-kamala-harris/

...endangered sex workers source:


https://www.esquire.com/lifestyle/sex/a52334/backpage-shutdown-make-sex-workers-less-safe/

...and oversaw people being charged for prostitution without even agreeing to sex source:


https://archives.sfweekly.com/sanfrancisco/stung/Content?oid=2177526

-Refused to investigate Herbalife’s exploitation and fraud source:


https://freebeacon.com/politics/kamala-harris-accused-of-letting-company-exploiting-latinos-off-the-hook/

...and, conveniently enough, later received donations from people connected to the corporation source:


https://www.pastemagazine.com/politics/kamala-harris/documents-show-san-diego-prosecutors-told-kamala-h/

-Refused to prosecute PG&E for its massive gas pipeline explosion source:


https://www.nytimes.com/2019/02/23/us/pge-california-politics.html

...and now its consultants are running her campaign source:


https://www.politico.com/story/2019/01/21/kamala-harris-2020-campaign-1116076

-Is a latecomer in endorsing Medicare for All and already appears to be backtracking on it source:


https://www.cnn.com/2019/01/29/politics/kamala-harris-medicare-for-all-eliminate-private-insurers-backlash/index.html

-Supports foreign right-wing influences Netanyahu and AIPAC


https://theintercept.com/2018/03/07/kamala-harris-israel-aipac/

-Systematically violated defendants’ civil and constitutional rights” in crime lab scandal source:


https://www.washingtonpost.com/poli...9d15_story.html

-Co-sponsored the bill that let Trump impose sanctions on Iran source:

https://www.congress.gov/bill/115th-congress/senate-bill/722/cosponsors?searchResultViewType=expanded

...which violated the nuclear deal and lead to the currently rising tensions source:


https://archive.thinkprogress.org/media-outlets-lawmakers-us-violated-iran-nuclear-deal-5907a0e5743a/

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