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Beefeater1980
Sep 12, 2008

My God, it's full of Horatios!






*sucks teeth* Yeah, that U-bend’s all Jacob’d up. Going to be expensive to fix.

E: Jacob’d > Rees’d

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Beefeater1980
Sep 12, 2008

My God, it's full of Horatios!







It’s like those Nigerian scams that include direct typos to put off critical thinkers; anyone receptive to the message wont check.

Beefeater1980
Sep 12, 2008

My God, it's full of Horatios!






Gum posted:

Ask a Kipper if Polish people are "Western" and then ask the same question about a group of immigrants that Kippers do not take issue with, such as Americans or Australians

E: This touches on what is possibly the biggest disagreement within neoliberal and fascist circles: Does The West extend beyond the Anglosphere?

Neoliberalism is pretty much only concerned with making the world safe for capital. As a side effect of its project to concentrate most of the world’s wealth in an ever smaller slice of the global 0.1%, it lifted 5-600M Chinese people plus assorted South and South-East Asian out of abject, no-safety-net poverty (in the process, many of them worked in literal-safety-net-outside-the-building factories and/or were cheated out of their pay, and it was STILL better than what came before). Microsoft and Google have ethnically Indian CEOs; Uber’s is Iranian.

It’s not solely the West that does this - China is doing a neoliberalism in parts of East Africa right now, with the side effect that stuff is being built there, and local people are getting skills and training, and playing games to steal technical know how etc from Chinese investors so they can set up their own competing factories, in exactly the same way that Chinese workers of the 90s and 00s did from Americans.

Neoliberalism is strictly inferior to either democratic socialism or social democracy, promotes awful behaviour and is in theory eventually unsustainable, but that doesn’t make it fascism. Fascism is anti-globalist; it needs rules to prevent anyone from outside the chosen group from getting uppity and needs privileges for people inside the chosen group.

Beefeater1980
Sep 12, 2008

My God, it's full of Horatios!






A Spherical Sponge posted:

Not sure if this is the right place to ask, but I live in the UK and I'm a marxist so I suppose it counts.

Does anyone know of any cases since turn of the 20th century (so after 1900) where centrists/liberals/moderates have actually fought against the far-right, excluding WW2? Whenever I hear about the far right committing atrocities in the past it always seems to be socialists or anarchists or the left who are out there defending people, or working against whatever structures of power are involved in facilitating violence and oppression.

Revolt against Milosevic in Belgrade in 2000 comes to mind. Typically, though, after the 19th.C, liberals are the status quo that radicals (including fascists) are agitating against. Peaceful transfers of power such as in Taiwan and S Korea, or South Africa, represent liberal regimes successfully replacing fascist or ultra-authoritarian ones.

A number of the revolts against repressive but nominally “left wing” regimes in the wake of the collapse of the USSR were driven by liberals. Those didn’t turn out so well.

As a very very general and imprecise rule of thumb, it seems like:
Fascist / right-authoritarian states decay into liberal ones if rich, socialist ones if poor
Socialist states decay into left-authoritarian ones
Left-authoritarian states decay into liberal ones or fascist ones
Liberal states decay into fascist ones

“Decay” here just means “turn into when they end”, and could be a coup, a revolution, a peaceful transfer of power or whatever

Beefeater1980
Sep 12, 2008

My God, it's full of Horatios!






OwlFancier posted:

loving lol I just read the shadowrun wiki entries for the history of the UK and Ireland and tbh I think they're more plausible than the one we're currently living in:

On a similar note, I’m doing a let’s read of the Flashman series over in the Book Barn and the post I’m writing right now on the East India Company in Bengal is basically “What if Corporate Dystopia, but too much?”

It’s astonishing that any foreigners talk to British people, ever. We have an amazingly consistent track record of loving over everyone who has anything to do with us.

Beefeater1980
Sep 12, 2008

My God, it's full of Horatios!






Watching the Chinese police conducting their anti riot prep just across the border in Shenzhen, and the fact of very right wing governments in the US and UK, I have a very nasty feeling the next few years will see a global swing towards normalising much harsher policing / more use of the military in putting down civil unrest.

Beefeater1980
Sep 12, 2008

My God, it's full of Horatios!






I play D&D with my two sons (7 and 9) and it rocks. We just finished the starter set adventure (same one they did in Adventure Zone) - they made friends with the wolves and sent them to attack the goblins, sidestepping the early hostage situation completely. And they insist in holding all their loot in common, which is reassuring to see.

Honestly I’d recommend it if you have kids who are siblings - competitive games can easily end up with someone in tears, so a curated experience is great.

Beefeater1980
Sep 12, 2008

My God, it's full of Horatios!






I don’t think purity of motive makes composition any better; Grieg banged out Peer Gynt 100% for cash and it’s amazing.

Beefeater1980
Sep 12, 2008

My God, it's full of Horatios!






OwlFancier posted:

If none of you have read the fortress unvanquishable save for sacnoth by the way I do recommend it, it's :catdrugs:

https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/The_Sword_of_Welleran_and_Other_Stories/The_Fortress_Unvanquishable,_Save_for_Sacnoth

That’s a hell of a trip

Beefeater1980
Sep 12, 2008

My God, it's full of Horatios!






JeremoudCorbynejad posted:

lol there's a literal actual riot happening in Hong Kong airport and, while rioters clash with police and pepper sprays gets everywhere, scores of commuters are milling about with their suitcases trying to check in and get to their gates

It’s weird here. Every day is almost normal but the streets only have about 40% of the usual traffic and everyone’s kind of aware of being in that period where you’re waiting for something violent to kick off.

My wife took a flight out from the airport on a business trip about 2 hours before the latest round started. Right now I’m just hoping the airport’s back to normal when she returns.

Beefeater1980
Sep 12, 2008

My God, it's full of Horatios!






Julio Cruz posted:

it's a very racist thing to say towards Asians, yes

I think there’s two things being conflated here. Moon-faced as an insult means “having a round, full face” and is not an ethnic slur; although it’s hard to imagine anyone using it after say the 1920s because it’s really archaic.

The character “Moon face” from Enid Blyton’s popular far away tree children’s books is usually drawn with a face that is a large, round yellow moon. That could be used as an ethnic slur against East Asian people if for some reason any of the better known ones didn’t occur to you I guess.

Beefeater1980
Sep 12, 2008

My God, it's full of Horatios!






Darth Walrus posted:

'Asians have fat faces' is definitely a thing. Cosmetic surgeons make a shitload of money out of preying on East Asians' insecurities over it.

I was in Seoul, global centre of the plastic surgery industry, a couple of weeks ago and my friend told me people go crazy over having small faces so that is definitely a thing; OTOH having lived in China for 11 years now I’ve not heard the expression moon-faced used as an insult.

E: or used not as an insult, come to think of it. Maybe I’m running with the wrong crowd.

Beefeater1980 fucked around with this message at 01:58 on Aug 15, 2019

Beefeater1980
Sep 12, 2008

My God, it's full of Horatios!






I mean, my take away we should all continue not saying the thing we don’t say, and be aware that some people use it as a slur.

Beefeater1980
Sep 12, 2008

My God, it's full of Horatios!






I like the idea of a world where if something is written in very simple terms that only a complete drooling idiot could fail to understand, everyone would agree on what it meant.

What actually exists as far as I can tell is one interpretation per reader, clustered in a semi-random pattern around the original meaning, with at least a few people who think it means the literal opposite.

Cf “Thou shalt not kill,” which continues to attract surprisingly ingenious interpretations from devout Christians to this day.

Beefeater1980
Sep 12, 2008

My God, it's full of Horatios!






On the one hand, another 100 years of Tory austerity, on the other, eternity in hell getting your extremities sawn off by demented imps as cackling demons warm up the pitchforks.

- this has been a party political broadcast for Guavanaut’s “Devil you don’t know” party.

Beefeater1980
Sep 12, 2008

My God, it's full of Horatios!






OwlFancier posted:

Oh you wouldn't like yorkshire then :v:

Thee/thou/thy is actually weird in that grammatically it's more precise than the you/your which replaced it. There are occasions where you might want to use it because modern english doesn't let you be that precise.

Also why "y'alls" should be a part of standard english because there is presently no actual standard equivalent.

It says something about us as a nation that given the choice between retaining the formal (you) and informal (thou) versions of the same word, we decided to drop the informal one and just talk to everyone like we’re meeting them for the first time and need to be carefully polite.

Beefeater1980
Sep 12, 2008

My God, it's full of Horatios!






Paul.Power posted:

I will always love Macbeth, mostly because of the Humphrey Carpenter version in Shakespeare Without The Boring Bits where he turns him into a hard-boiled private eye.

It does go without saying that Shakespeare's pretty darn great, though. The dude's grasp of story structure was much better than the reductive three-act structure taught by many writing classes, and he pretty much invented the complex, human villain (even if the more Marlowian, moustache-twirling, monologuing scenery chewers have been more influential on popular culture).

Apropos the scenery chewers, Iago is legit amazing and one of my favourite villains in fiction.

Beefeater1980
Sep 12, 2008

My God, it's full of Horatios!






I miss the days when 88 meant two fat ladies and not “potential nazi sympathiser”.

Beefeater1980
Sep 12, 2008

My God, it's full of Horatios!






josh04 posted:

This is surely going to kick off. It's basically a coup?

Holy poo poo. We should never have let the nobility estate get influence to 100%

Beefeater1980
Sep 12, 2008

My God, it's full of Horatios!







Oh hey it’s my old firm representing him. They always used to be close to New Labour (even though law firm partners are 60%+ Tory voters, for obvious reasons).

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Beefeater1980
Sep 12, 2008

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Kassad posted:



So it's confirmed that the Eggman hates Johnson's guts, then.

Fantastic (adj.): imaginative or fanciful; remote from reality.

Checks out.

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