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forkboy84
Jun 13, 2012

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lol this genius still hasn't delighted this amazing tweet.

crispix posted:

August thread off to a highbrow start, then :coffeepal:

To answer your question from the last thread, Tesco is on the bus route from town to here so I don't have to go all the way into town then walk 30 minutes to get to Aldi or Lidl while carrying a bunch of shopping, or get a 20 minute extra bus ride to Asda. Lower effort > Slightly higher cost. I might be poor but I'm still lazy. Wait, I might be (definitely am) poor BECAUSE I'm lazy. Hmmm.

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forkboy84
Jun 13, 2012

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thespaceinvader posted:

Isn't neoliberalism plus nationalism pretty much straight-up fascism though? It's just saying the quiet parts of neoliberalism out loud.

Nah, fascist corporatism is way different from neoliberalism. Neoliberalism is inherently about a global economy while using xenophobia etc as a cover to give the illusion it's not.

forkboy84
Jun 13, 2012

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Azza Bamboo posted:

How much does a bridge to Northern Ireland cost?

A 2010 study suggest about £21bn. Add in the sort of insanely incompetent budgeting that saw HS2 go from £20bn to a predicted £85bn and you're probably easily looking in the £40-50bn range. And I'm not even sure if that figure includes the cost of cleaning up Beaufort's Dyke.

forkboy84
Jun 13, 2012

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u brexit ukip it posted:

It's not (just) a matter of incompetence, it's politicians telling consultants "we need <thing> and it needs to cost X or it'll get shot down". Then when it inevitably goes over budget billions will already have been spent and the sunk cost fallacy does its job to get it over the line.

If they'd prepare a budget based on actual expected costs plus some contingency there would be a public outcry and nothing would ever get funded.

To be fair, I just call that incompetence but I suppose technically it's deeply cynical politicking. One could, if you were incredibly sceptical of the honest intentions of politicians, imagine it's done deliberately to make the public lose faith in public works projects.

forkboy84
Jun 13, 2012

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Guavanaut posted:

I was going to say Welsh Rarebit, especially if it's done traditionally where the cheese is melted separately and ladled over the top. Anything else is just a grilled cheese fight me.

As a kid with a habit for not really reading things all the way I was convinced that dish was called Welsh Rabbit and I could never work out what was so special about the bunnies in the Principality.

forkboy84
Jun 13, 2012

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Jose posted:

It's gross imo that job centre workers refer to us as customers

Really loving is. "Customer". loving nonsense. That's another New Labour legacy.

Guavanaut posted:

https://twitter.com/Namorrodor/status/1157235706730876929

Friendship ended with Yorkshire, now Lancashire is my best friend.

Jesus Christ, those absolute monsters.

forkboy84
Jun 13, 2012

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Diet Crack posted:

People who pour into cold milk and leave the bags steeping in now lukewarm liquid are loving weeeeeirrrrddooos.

I leave the bag steeping forever but don't add any milk. I just want that poo poo to get as strong as possible.

forkboy84
Jun 13, 2012

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u brexit ukip it posted:

Just drink coffee

I mostly dislike coffee but if I had to have a cuppa I want espresso which is cool because espresso is a thing I will never ever make.

Tesseraction posted:

I'm drinking earl grey and you can't stop m,e

Same.

forkboy84
Jun 13, 2012

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Aidan_702 posted:

Guys what are your tricks for when you are literally trying to keep your eyes open in an office job

Put clothespegs on your nipples, and your dick and your scrotum. Try dozing off when in excruciating pain.

forkboy84
Jun 13, 2012

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Rarity posted:

Ancap is generally used to refer to anarcho-capitalists and if you think those two terms are completely antithetical then congrats, you're smart than any anarcho-capitalist out there (it's basically libertarianism)

Ancap is libertarian but instead of being very passionate about lowering the age of consent they just want to get rid of the age of consent. Oh, and to bring back slavery, how can I forget that one?

Ancaps are why I instinctively distrust anyone who wears a bowtie.

I haven't read the D&D libertarian thread in forever but I always used to get the chills reading about Hans Herman Hoppe

forkboy84 fucked around with this message at 18:23 on Aug 2, 2019

forkboy84
Jun 13, 2012

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brian posted:

it's probably worth noting that libertarianism is and was originally a term for anarcho-communists/anarcho-syndicalists and the american popular meaning is dumb, wrong and the opposite and should probably be fought back against, imo the left should reclaim words like liberty and freedom towards actual egalitarianism again since they're p powerful words people identify with

I can't remember who decided we should call right wing "libertarians" propertarians but they were right on the money. (It might have been the Anarchist FAQ people)

forkboy84
Jun 13, 2012

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Qwertycoatl posted:

Given up on TVs in general I think. Half my friends don't have a TV and the other half only do so they can hook up a games console and/or netflix

I'd rather pay the TV license than sub to Netflix tbh

forkboy84
Jun 13, 2012

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Captain Fargle posted:

I wish to put forward Alestorm as a consideration for the position.

Motion veto'd, Alestorm are the worst crime in the history of Scottish metal.

forkboy84
Jun 13, 2012

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Well gosh. I have never seen a more perfect summation of the Liberal Democrats.

forkboy84
Jun 13, 2012

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Hentai Jihadist posted:

Nice take care dude

Re: azzas thing about wordy "leftist 101" stuff boy I hear you.
Capitalist Realism is pretty readable but imo falls into the same thing every modern leftist thing does where it goes "okay here is the problem you already know about, but very well articulated, now how should we solve it? Wel that's the subject of my next book" *never writes book*

I dunno if it was here or another thread where I asked for similar books and got capitalist Realism recommended but also a bunch of other stuff that was incredibly dry and overly verbose and I'm a poncey verbose guy myself irl.

I did get recommended I think Bakunin though and he owned. I actually thought trotsky was a good read too. Marx is famously dull and Lenin was surprisingly dry too. I think I tried to read Imperialism by Lenin and fell asleep almost immediately.

To can read some incredibly dry history books but political theory just is more of a struggle but I did find Kropotkin's Conquest of Bread both short and simple to understand.

forkboy84
Jun 13, 2012

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https://twitter.com/rightwingtwits/status/1157971003366137856?s=20

That's a special level of narcissism.

forkboy84
Jun 13, 2012

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thespaceinvader posted:

The big problem with 'get rid of all the guns' in the US is that there are SO loving MANY OF THEM and getting rid of them requires the cooperation of the gun owners. It's functionally impossible to disarm the US population without their participation.

Ultimately none of it matters because until there's enough elected officials and states will to repeal the second amendment all they are doing is fidgeting in the margins.

(This isn't happening)

forkboy84 fucked around with this message at 13:26 on Aug 5, 2019

forkboy84
Jun 13, 2012

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njsykora posted:

Who the gently caress is this guy calling the loving Co-Op a fast food chain?


Nish Kumar is one of the reliably good co-hosts on the current Bugle too, shame all that goodwill about The Bugle becoming a showcase for non-straight white dudes gets sapped away whenever they have Matt loving Forde on to do his "WHY CAN'T ANYONE JUST COMPROMISE?" routine.

The Bugle has Forde on it? Jesus.

Anyway, I am glad that I just gave up on The Bugle when Oliver got a real job because they had good chemistry together and I'm fairly confident I'd have gotten super mad hearing them go on about Labour being antisemitic.

As an unrelated aside, power went out which sucks because I'd not saved my game. Booooo electricity.

forkboy84
Jun 13, 2012

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Some weird indie game where you are a Roman legionary during the Second Punic War. Be A Legionary or I'm A Legionary, I forget the title.

forkboy84
Jun 13, 2012

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Saw a bit of Trump giving a speech where he speaks out about white supremacy after the shooting and boy, I dunno if it was the body language or the tone of his voice but that was about the least sincere condemnation of racism in human history.

Rather surprised the BBC are explicitly calling it terrorism though. Seems overdue.

forkboy84 fucked around with this message at 17:06 on Aug 5, 2019

forkboy84
Jun 13, 2012

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Jose posted:

he's always like then during a full teleprompter speech where he doesn't go off script. not that it wasn't insincere though

Apparently I've done a really world class job of avoiding Donald Trump speeches so hurrah for me.

forkboy84
Jun 13, 2012

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kustomkarkommando posted:

Seems like the Harland + Wolff shipyard workers in Belfast have resolved to occupy the shipyard indefinitely to block administrators accessing the site, had a meeting with John McDonnell (who was in NI today) and Unite are making noises to the DUP that they are willing to field candidates against them if they do not pressure the Tories to renationalise the yard.

DUP may start getting a bit sweaty around the collar if this catches on in East Belfast

Hope it works for them. Would be exciting for another actual challenge to the DUP. Even if it's more spoiler than anything else.

forkboy84
Jun 13, 2012

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Coohoolin posted:

Hahaha I love it when these fucks out themselves

https://twitter.com/carmic3/status/1158656420474163200?s=19

LOL at someone being too much of a poo poo for Daisley.

forkboy84
Jun 13, 2012

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8chan was started because 4chan started clamping down on kiddie porn right?

forkboy84
Jun 13, 2012

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I have no where else to put this so hey

https://twitter.com/maxgAIER/status/1159280373265772547?s=20

forkboy84
Jun 13, 2012

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baka kaba posted:

Hey the market is rational after all! not sure about the invisible hand though

the comments are great
"what makes you think I'm a right-libertarian"

One woman says in the comments "libertarianism is astrology for boys" and just wow, this is the perfect summary of right-libertarianism.

Also at least half the replies are along the lines of "libertarians are really obsessed with lowering the age of consent" which he really doesn't like.

forkboy84
Jun 13, 2012

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Pesky Splinter posted:

Is this a good thing or bad?

Being from Kent, I don't really know the intricacies of Scotpol aside from the ocasional comments in this thread. :shrug:
To clarify, the outside impression I get is that ScotLab is still mostly Blairite.

In the grand tradition of Scottish Labour of the last 12 years it is neither good nor bad, it simply doesn't loving matter. For over a decade they've completely failed to losing the Scottish election in 2007. Allow me to lazily post a list of all the ScotLab leaders since that election from Wikipedia
Jack McConnell (22 November 2001 – 15 August 2007)
Cathy Jamieson (15 August 2007 – 14 September 2007) (Acting)
Wendy Alexander (14 September 2007 – 28 June 2008)
Cathy Jamieson (28 June 2008 – 13 September 2008) (Acting)
Iain Gray (13 September 2008 – 17 December 2011)
Johann Lamont (17 December 2011 – 24 October 2014)
Jackie Baillie (24 October 2014 – 13 December 2014) (Acting)
Kezia Dugdale (13 December 2014 – 13 June 2015 (Deputy Party Leader, Leader in the Parliament)
Iain Gray (13 June 2015 – 15 August 2015) (Acting)
Kezia Dugdale (15 August 2015 – 29 August 2017)
Alex Rowley (29 August 2017 – 15 November 2017) (Acting, as Deputy Party Leader)
Jackie Baillie (15 November 2017 – 18 November 2017) (Acting)
Richard Leonard (18 November 2017 – )

Yes, the Blairites have an outsized representation up here but even the Labour left here do little more than screech about the SNP. Richard Leonard regularly asks questions at FMQs about issues which aren't even loving devolved (he's not alone in that, Lib Dem Willie Rennie does it too). It might work when the opposition is the Tories but doesn't work with the SNP because huge numbers of SNP voters are former Labour voters and I can tell you from personal experience that Labour's reaction to the SNP in the past decade has been alienating, especially when combined with the general arrogant malaise of the "natural party of government" refusing to accept reality has changed and they haven't.

I see little to be optimistic about in the short to medium term for Labour in Scotland. All the momentum of the Corbyn leadership cabinet didn't really happen here because it was less than 12 months after the indy ref and that was still the single most dominating issue, and frankly Labour campaigning with the Tories as Better Together hurt them. They might have saved the union but it is hard to calculate how much damage it did to the party in Scotland. Instead it's just "Nats bad" which, yes, the Nats are pretty pisspoor but loving nora, if your message hasn't worked for the last 12 years maybe try changing the tune? Make a positive case for voting Labour rather than a negative case for voting SNP. Some Nats won't be won over, even the relatively recent converts because they've nationalism is brain poison and they've convinced themselves Scotland is somehow special and uniquely ripe for socialist/social democratic government. But that's not all of them.

forkboy84 fucked around with this message at 20:16 on Aug 8, 2019

forkboy84
Jun 13, 2012

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The Big Short is on the iPlayer and it's still a really surprisingly entertaining for a film about number go up and then suddenly number go all the way down.

Can't wait to see what impressive fraud brings the house of cards down this time and nothing changes because capitalism is just insisting everything is fine while the house burns down.

forkboy84
Jun 13, 2012

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Barry Foster posted:

I guess the closest thing to this is The Wire but even then some of the po-lice are occasionally portrayed as trying to do the right thing even if not a one of them are actually good people

Is it a hot take to say that some police do try to do the right thing on occasion? Because ACAB doesn't mean literally every copper is scum, I always took it as more of a generalisation about the institution. In that respect The Wire is very right because the takeaway is that a handful of decent people trying to do the right thing makes gently caress all difference when the institution is as utterly hosed as policing is. That's why The Wire was good, because it pointed out that every institution in modern Baltimore is hosed because of politics and special interests and corruption. Individually there's well intentioned people in the police but there's also far more lazy grifters, morons, yes-men, thugs and politicians. It's not Breaking Bad in making the bad people cool, but it does do a terrific job of pointing out that the gangsters and dealers are people and some of them are good people in a poo poo place and some of them are absolutely as scummy as Commissioner Burrell.

Obviously it doesn't have any real answers to this, and none of its observations ever make it past liberalism but as far as a liberal criticism of the current world it was pretty good even if most stuff influenced by it since has the subtlety of a brick to the testicles.

JeremoudCorbynejad posted:

Thanks to you I saw this and now you all have to see it too

https://twitter.com/ToxicTikToks/status/1148023454685380608

That whole twitter feed is horrible

The entire app is horrible. TikTok is Vine for people without any ideas.

forkboy84
Jun 13, 2012

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Regarde Aduck posted:

NHS mental health services are some bullshit. I'd like to say 'they're doing their best' but I don't know if I believe that.

I think most people involved are trying their best but the ultimate problem is that services are hugely oversubscribed and underfunded. 6 month waits for a referral to a psychiatrist just for an evaluation and in the meantime a fob off with CBT, guided if you're lucky but probably just "here's some homework, knock yourself out". And the increase in uptake in mental health problems isn't just that we're better at talking about how are brains are hosed up than we were 2 decades ago, a lot of it is directly related to the society we live in. Late capitalism is filled with people under enormous stress from things like insecure employment, extortionate rent or having to live with your folks into your 30s, massive economic inequality, the jobs we do have are often utterly pointless busy work that exists to make number go up, the impending climate disaster. And who the gently caress is going to save us from late capitalism?

Yes, the NHS mental health services need a big increase in funding. Probably the entire nature of the NHS needs shaken up to better cope with the mental health epidemic. But as usually is the case in medicine, preventative medicine is more effective than curative; stop being getting ill and that's going to need revolutionary changes to how society and the economy operates. How we treat the unemployed and the poor.

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Jun 13, 2012

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Tarnop posted:

gently caress yeah, wrestling makes me genuinely happy, and that forum is alright!

Sorry to keep bringing up my drat therapy, but she doesn't half look at me like I'm a simpleton when I tell her what I've been doing with my time. Turns out wrasslin', D&D and board games don't give off that air of sophistication I'd hoped to acquire by the time I turned 40

I think it's healthy to have a mix of what are traditionally regarded as low & high sophistication things. Like yes, wrestling is dope but I also like to read a lot of history books. If it worries you, have you tried just reading some literature? You can basically just walk into your local bookshop and look at their Penguin Classics collection and pick something that takes your fancy and have good odds of reading something good, like Sartre's Nausea or Bulgakov's The Master & Margarita or Dickens or Austen or Dante Alighieri or Cervantes. Quite possibly school left you with the impression that literature is tedious because of how they teach them but it turns out they are classics for a reason and can be quite fun when you don't have to do really dumb textual analysis imprinting ideas on the book that the author didn't even put there.

forkboy84
Jun 13, 2012

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OwlFancier posted:

I would advocate for the approach of abandoning the notion of socially acceptable things to like and go instead with your actual brain. If you like playing d&d then good, you're having fun with people you like. The point of living, if it can be said to have any point, is to enjoy it, collectively.

People who put stock in being cool are thick..

Yeah, I meant to say "only if you want to". More just that literature is good and there's so much of it that you're bound to find something worthwhile out there. I've got a copy of The Republic I bought years ago which I'm pretty sure I never got more than a third of the way through before deciding it wasn't at all for me but on the flipside I could probably reread something like The Stranger by Camus every couple of years if there weren't so many other books in my house. There's nothing wrong with liking what you like, I listen to lots of music which people generally regard as dumb (& in the case of bands like Pantera & Slayer they are right to do so, it is dumb but good). But if you personally feel self-conscious about your tastes for whatever reason there's no harm in jumping out of your comfort zone and trying to read Dostoyevsky or whatever, it can be fun.

But yeah, do it for yourself because you want to, not because you have to or expected to. Ain't nobody taking wrestling away from me.

forkboy84
Jun 13, 2012

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What I find weird is when I was in school 20 years ago literally nobody played D&D or any other RPG. There were a couple of kids who played Magic and I played Warhammer & 40K for a bit, but there were no tabletop RPGs at all. And now I'm older I see all these people talking about their TTRPGs games on Facebook. It's a bit funny but also I'm mad and jealous.

forkboy84
Jun 13, 2012

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WhatEvil posted:

So just recently I got into watching these vids while stoned:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2itf0WxLDqo

They are some of the funniest poo poo. Anyway went to share this with CoolCab and he was like "Yeah I love those guys, have you listened to their D&D podcast?" - I didn't realise at all they were a)brothers and b)famous outside of Monster Factory. Turns out they do a bunch of different podcasts and such but yeah, their D&D podcast The Adventure Zone is really great, and also involves their dad Clint McElroy who used to be a radio personality in West Virginia.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SXqjz3LWBa4

Highly recommend it to anybody interested in D&D - even those who have not played before as they explain the systems etc. as they go along.

Yes, the McElroys are good and wholesome entertainment. I particularly enjoyed Griffin's Amiibo reviews.

forkboy84
Jun 13, 2012

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Julio Cruz posted:

looks like Radio 4 have managed to commission something even loving worse than Dead Ringers

I had it on for a maximum of three minutes and honestly I've been to funerals that were funnier

Those Radio 4 comedy shows are absolutely loving dire far more often than not. I just remember some poo poo with Benedict Cumberbatch sitcom about an airline which was insipid. And Count Arthur Strong. Ugh.

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Jun 13, 2012

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Manic_Misanthrope posted:

The former is primarily due to ZSJ

Feel I should take this time to say that everyone who watches wrestling should consider getting into Dragon Gate because it's cool and has the most entertaining music selection (I don't even enjoy J-pop but this does it for me) and also the wrestling is great which is also a bonus

None more evangelical than the recent convert.

forkboy84
Jun 13, 2012

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baka kaba posted:

does it have that wrassler jpop lady because she seems cool

That sounds more like a Tokyo Joshi Pro thing? I don't really watch much joshi (Japanese women's wrestling) because there's only so many hours in the day & so many £ to spend on wrestling subscription services.

Dragon Gate is Japanese but it's style is more influenced by Mexican lucha libre and most of the wrestlers are pretty attractive guys so they have a strong following among women. This is a match from a show last month that was real dope for their tag team title though you probably want to skip to about 12 minutes in to get to the actual start unless you can speak Japanese to understand the prematch promo vid.

Anyway, watching wrestling is praxis so you should do that. Just not WWE because it's bad.

forkboy84
Jun 13, 2012

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Gorn Myson posted:

I got into Idles because of him lol.

Also, this t-shirt should be in the OP.



Wrestling is so loving good.

I'm assuming this design is an homage to Gnod's Just Say No To The Psycho Right-Wing Capitalist Fascist Industrial Death Machine album cover, what Zack being very into his indie tunes

forkboy84
Jun 13, 2012

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baka kaba posted:

oh I've no idea lol, she popped up on the youtubes because I watched some interview with people who escaped north korea. she's cool and likes a kebab (no sauce though)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KJN1Bzapb0E

body positivity is cool and good


is that guy in the mask actually gonna do any wrestling?? the fact he's not is making me feel tense

I checked and I was right, she has wrestled in Tokyo Joshi Pro, making me an idiot savant when it comes to wrestling.

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forkboy84
Jun 13, 2012

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Jose posted:

camping sucks and the only time its acceptable is for a music festival

Camping is exactly why I stopped attending music festivals. Yes yes, the stars are nice but less nice is waking up multiple times because the ground is loving uncomfortable and then you feel poo poo the next day and can't even take a nice soothing shower.

Go out stargazing and then come home again. The joy of rural life. One of very few.

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