August 2019 Current Events Thread: It's Hot and Everything Sucks

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UP THE BUM NO BABY: Sep 1, 2011; by Hand Knit

Abongination posted:

Havnt seen much news about this garlic festival shooting, two threads from gbs got gassed on the first pages.

The one we covered last month when it happened and led to a few probations among the posters?

# ¿ Aug 1, 2019 16:00

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# ¿ May 21, 2024 07:20

UP THE BUM NO BABY: Sep 1, 2011; by Hand Knit

A Bad Poster posted:

Stripes

Stripes is a dumb loving movie that people have way too much love for

# ¿ Aug 2, 2019 00:25

UP THE BUM NO BABY: Sep 1, 2011; by Hand Knit

McNally posted:

You're a dumb loving movie that people have way too much love for

I wish people had respect for me. :smith:

# ¿ Aug 2, 2019 00:28

UP THE BUM NO BABY: Sep 1, 2011; by Hand Knit

Y'all are dumb as hell. The best is Black Hawk Down. Or Lone Survivor.

# ¿ Aug 2, 2019 01:25

UP THE BUM NO BABY: Sep 1, 2011; by Hand Knit

45 ACP CURES NAZIS posted:

Triple Frontier is the best military comedy made this century

Objectively correct, forgive me for forgetting it

# ¿ Aug 2, 2019 05:20

UP THE BUM NO BABY: Sep 1, 2011; by Hand Knit

Fister Roboto posted:

Followup for perspective: https://twitter.com/jmspool/status/1157021965020016640

That's about 0.006% of their annual profits. Truly an undue burden for a struggling mom and pop business such as Dominos.

The accountant in me wants to point out that EBITDA≠Profit.

It's similar to profit but it is not the same thing and is a pedantic thing.

# ¿ Aug 2, 2019 18:16

UP THE BUM NO BABY: Sep 1, 2011; by Hand Knit

AreWeDrunkYet posted:

It's shorthand for run rate cash flow, which is usually a more meaningful metric for an operating investment decision than net profits.

Yes. I know. I was trying to end the pedantry early, but the Call of the Goon went out I guess.

I just wanted to leave it there because it's mostly useful if you're of the investing type or interested in creating free cash flows. It's something that is hyper-capitalistic because it tries to separate the "value" of the company as something entirely separate of the labour class

UP THE BUM NO BABY fucked around with this message at 20:09 on Aug 2, 2019

# ¿ Aug 2, 2019 20:07

UP THE BUM NO BABY: Sep 1, 2011; by Hand Knit

psydude posted:

Somewhere out there on a SharePoint server lies a PowerPoint briefing about how much time is spent on PowerPoint briefings.

That thing has been through at least a dozen iterations and three separate committees have been formed to study the results.

# ¿ Aug 2, 2019 23:38

UP THE BUM NO BABY: Sep 1, 2011; by Hand Knit

45 ACP CURES NAZIS posted:

again: glow belts

Powered armor except instead of weapons it dispenses PPE

# ¿ Aug 3, 2019 20:37

UP THE BUM NO BABY: Sep 1, 2011; by Hand Knit

LingcodKilla posted:

Whuuuut.

Well in non-news im in the Central Valley, CA and I just saw a trump supporter in the shortest short shorts I ever saw. He would have had to tuck up his balls to keep them in his place. Like 1 inch or less inseam.

If they're shorter than ranger panties I'd like a link please

# ¿ Aug 3, 2019 21:49

UP THE BUM NO BABY: Sep 1, 2011; by Hand Knit

Texas is just going to kill that kid, aren't they?

# ¿ Aug 4, 2019 14:31

UP THE BUM NO BABY: Sep 1, 2011; by Hand Knit

colachute posted:

i'm 100% serious when i say if you want gun control, run on the platform of arming all minorities.

Worked in Cali

# ¿ Aug 4, 2019 15:21

UP THE BUM NO BABY: Sep 1, 2011; by Hand Knit

Bored As gently caress posted:

Here's the problem - it's not going to work. Banning so called assault weapons is not going to work because "assault weapons" are really just semi automatic rifles with certain scart features like a pistol grip, or a collapsible stock, or a barrel shroud, or a muzzle brake, or a flash suppressor, or a super scary bayonet lug. Look at California's increasingly restrictive gun laws and you'll see that simple assault weapon bans aren't enough, and that when they fail to work, every single law after that gets more and more restrictive, yet still fails to do what the legislators want them to do. First they grandfathered in preban magazines. Then they got rid of that. The when people followed the letter of the law with the bullet button, they banned that, too.

The generous interpretation is to say that the legislators want to end gun violence. The more cynical interpretation is that the legislators want to pass a bill that looks like they are being tough on the NRA and looks like they're tough on gun violence, while also doing nothing to end the root causes of gun violence in general because that is etremely expensive, complicated, multi-faceted, and requires a reworking of our health care system, our mental health care system, our education system, and our criminal justice system. So passing a bill that further restricts what guns people can have is just a hell of a lot easier for them to do.

I honestly can't really blame them, because people, like voters, like simple answers. They don't like complicated solutions because you can't put that in a sound bite. That's the same exact reason why people love what Trump says about immigrants. "The immigrants are taking your jobs, the immigrants are dangerous, it's the immigrants fault why you aren't rich. Building the wall will solve this!" It's a really simple answer, and it's completely wrong. But people love being told what they already think is true, and if you have a simple solution to a problem that reinforces what people already think is true, then you're gonna get votes.

The 1st problem with passing more gun laws Is that fascists, right wing militias, and white supremacists aren't going to turn theirs in, and I'll be dammed if it's only the Rpublicans that have firearms after a ban. The 2nd problem is that of implementation. The 1994 AWB only passed the house and senate because of the sunset clause. A bill without the sunset clause will have a much harder time of being passed. Then there's the issue of grandfathering the firearms that exist now. If you don't grandfather the so called assault weapons that are legally owned now, and instead go the route of a mandatory buy-up, you've just made felons of millions of Americans instantly, because even non racist otherwise law abiding citizens aren't going to hand them in. Then, how are you going to pay for all of the ones that are turned in? That'll be spending tens of billions of dollars taking previously legally owned firearms out of the hands of law abiding citizens, when those billions would've been better spent on improving access to healthcare, universal pre-K, or expanding the free school lunch problem.

The other problem with passing more restrictive gun laws is that it's not going to address any root causes for gun violence in general, or the rise of mass shootings in particular. Trump's rise to power and his racist rhetoric emboldens other racists. Hate crimes have gone up significantly since hes been president. Racists love him. White supremacists love him. The anti immigrant, Anti-Muslim narrative has caused so many lone wolf terrorist attacks. El Paso was a terrorist attack. Full stop. Yet the DOJ and FBI aren't going hard after right-wing white supremacist terrorista groups, at least publicly. Why would they when their boss is a racist himself?

The FBI has purview over those types of assholes, and I'm sure they've got undercover guys working on infiltrating white supremacist groups, but here you run into the same problems that they run into with violent Islamist extremist groups - most of these terrorists are self-radicalized. Most of them have few outside social contacts or friends, or if they do, they hide their extremist views (or at least their intensions to commit an attack) from everyone except their online friends (whether it be Stormfront or 8chan, or jihadist websites) or a small group of people who they're going to commit the act with. There's not a lot of chances for law enforcement to intervene because these fucks largely fly under the radar. You can't just arrest people in a white supremacist group just because the views they espouse are abhorrent, just like you can't lock up Muslims who post jihadi videos online and say that it's great when Americans get blown up overseas. It's free speech, and thank gently caress we still have that right somewhat intact.

So these people fly under the radar either because 1) they self radicalize completely, or 2) they incubate in these echo chambers of hate until they are ready to commit the act. Unless a family member or friend alerts the FBI or local police, no one's gonna know until they commit the act.

And even when the person is known and has an interaction with FBI or police, we don't have Minority Report style pre-cogs who can know what they're doing in a week, so unless they've already done something illegal, it's not easy to charge them with anything. And it's not like we have unlimited resources in equipment, man-hours, and manpower to watch every possible bad guy, or even every guy that's on a watchlist - nor should we.* If we did, we'd live in a no-poo poo dystopian dictatorship. *(There have been so many terror attacks committed by home grown terrorists in Europe where the attackers have been known to police or intelligence agencies, But they were never charged with anything because they didn't commit crimes yet. Some people think that if someone is known to police or intelligence as a potential terrorist (for instance, if they fought for ISIS in Syria and then came back to France or Belgium), that the authorities have 24 hour surveillance on a guy with a 12 man team of agents and surveillance specialists with multiple cars and phone taps. That poo poo isn't reality. There's far too many potential bad guys, and not nearly enough resources to watch them all).

In short, gun laws aren't going to solve the issue. What we need to do is to look at the problem holistically, and come up with science and fact based solutions that doesn't give the government more power and doesn't further infringe on people's rights to adequate self defense.

Idk, but I think we really, really need to do something about the proliferation of small arms in this country. Saying we can't do anything about the guns themselves is loving stupid.

# ¿ Aug 4, 2019 17:56

UP THE BUM NO BABY: Sep 1, 2011; by Hand Knit

Bored As gently caress posted:

I WISH we had a president that empowered the FBI to infiltrate and take down these white supremacist groups. But even if we did, those groups would need to do something illegal before we could arrest them.

Everything you said before this I completely loving ignored.

Those groups are doing illegal poo poo. It's happening right in front of you, in front of all of us, a blatant loving display of death.

End the proliferation of small arms in this country and remove easy access to weapons of mass murder. It works in a lot of the rest of the world where they don't go through multiple mass shootings per week.

# ¿ Aug 4, 2019 19:24

UP THE BUM NO BABY: Sep 1, 2011; by Hand Knit

Bored As gently caress posted:

Like what? What can you charge the assholes posting on Stormfront with? What can you charge most of the assholes open carrying and marching for white supremacy and/or for Trump (obviously besides the ones that hit or beat up counter protestors)? Marching for stupid poo poo is legal.

You want those loving psychos to be the only ones armed?

They're literally conspiring together and promoting acts of terrorism, and we've gone to war with countries for far less. Right now they ARE the only ones that are armed and murdering people, and I would rather like it if they weren't. I'm sorry I don't believe in maintaining the status quo of more guns, but gently caress off if you think that doing nothing to access to firearms and the amount we manufacture and sell within this country is somehow the answer.

# ¿ Aug 4, 2019 19:33

UP THE BUM NO BABY: Sep 1, 2011; by Hand Knit

NAPALM STICKS TO posted:

tbh even if it did have a different meaning then i do not much care what a bunch of 1700s farmers thought, i just want to live in a civilized first world country

I'm going to have to agree that trying to restrict common understanding of the law by gatekeeping it behind pedantry is really uncool.

# ¿ Aug 5, 2019 05:55

UP THE BUM NO BABY: Sep 1, 2011; by Hand Knit

gently caress yeah who is winning right now

# ¿ Aug 5, 2019 06:02

UP THE BUM NO BABY: Sep 1, 2011; by Hand Knit

Persian v Iranian is a thing because Iran has more than one ethnicity/nationality present within its borders. Further, Persian isn't restricted entirely to Iran, as one can be of Persian descent without ever having lived within the borders of modern day Iran.

# ¿ Aug 6, 2019 00:13

UP THE BUM NO BABY: Sep 1, 2011; by Hand Knit

Also it's really hosed up to tell somebody how to identify. P sure they know best.

# ¿ Aug 6, 2019 00:15

UP THE BUM NO BABY: Sep 1, 2011; by Hand Knit

I'm the fake tits

# ¿ Aug 7, 2019 19:08

UP THE BUM NO BABY: Sep 1, 2011; by Hand Knit

Kid Rock decided to start poo poo with Taylor Swift, if anyone gives a poo poo it's honestly kind of funny.

# ¿ Aug 10, 2019 02:11

UP THE BUM NO BABY: Sep 1, 2011; by Hand Knit

orange juche posted:

Kid who?

Yeah, her fans are going to town

# ¿ Aug 10, 2019 02:21

UP THE BUM NO BABY: Sep 1, 2011; by Hand Knit

gently caress those Nazis

# ¿ Aug 12, 2019 15:02

UP THE BUM NO BABY: Sep 1, 2011; by Hand Knit

https://twitter.com/mikesisak/status/1160887245999681536?s=19

The massive conspiracy that led to Epstein's death has the perfect cover in our incredibly broken justice system

# ¿ Aug 12, 2019 15:30

UP THE BUM NO BABY: Sep 1, 2011; by Hand Knit

He'd probably tell everyone that an AC works by absorbing all the heat or some poo poo

# ¿ Aug 12, 2019 20:07

UP THE BUM NO BABY: Sep 1, 2011; by Hand Knit

https://twitter.com/mhanham/status/1161045881220554753?s=19

# ¿ Aug 12, 2019 23:57

UP THE BUM NO BABY: Sep 1, 2011; by Hand Knit

What's funny is the people upset by The Hunt are mostly okay with The Hunger Games and The Purge lol

# ¿ Aug 13, 2019 18:00

UP THE BUM NO BABY: Sep 1, 2011; by Hand Knit

https://twitter.com/Maxar/status/1161424397875331072?s=19

# ¿ Aug 14, 2019 15:38

UP THE BUM NO BABY: Sep 1, 2011; by Hand Knit

When you guys finish can you just update a SHARP brief and pass it along to the rest of the forums? Please and thanks

# ¿ Aug 14, 2019 17:55

UP THE BUM NO BABY: Sep 1, 2011; by Hand Knit

Jarmak posted:

Personally I think the problem is considering the former not a big deal but the watering down effect is exactly my objection to calling this sexual assault.

I've been close to several women who have been sexual assaulted, including being the first new sex partner of a survivor of a particularly heinous date rape. It bothers me equivocating the pain and trauma of sexual assault with getting pants'd.

Yeah, a lot of us have some really personal connections to sexual assault and I think that's everybody's problem right now

# ¿ Aug 14, 2019 18:47

UP THE BUM NO BABY: Sep 1, 2011; by Hand Knit

The GE thing has been a known problem for a while now. We covered it in some accounting classes months ago. Thankfully we aren't in danger of a recession.

# ¿ Aug 15, 2019 17:02

UP THE BUM NO BABY: Sep 1, 2011; by Hand Knit

Bored As gently caress posted:

See? I'm not talking out of my rear end. I've had MANY conversations with people who say poo poo like that. Many anti gun organizations want to demonize gun ownership, and they've literally said they want guns to go the way of cigarettes in terms of public image, increased regulation, etc.

Many anti gun people argue that more guns = more crime. Many also say they want to treat gun violence as a public health issue. The natural end of that argument is that any ownership of any firearm, even if it's a safe queen that never sees the light of day, or gets shot 15 times at the beginning of hunting season, automatically increases the danger to the public in the area.

Yes and?

# ¿ Aug 16, 2019 01:56

UP THE BUM NO BABY: Sep 1, 2011; by Hand Knit

bird food bathtub posted:

"Gun insurance" is a really great way to let America's racism turbo-gently caress minorities again. It's an insidiously genius idea; solves nothing, protects no one, fucks minorities.

Right? OH THANK GOD THE GUN THAT MURDERED MY FAMILY MEMBER WAS INSURED AND I CAN GET $300,000 FOR MY LOSS

# ¿ Aug 16, 2019 02:14

UP THE BUM NO BABY: Sep 1, 2011; by Hand Knit

Jarmak posted:

gently caress it then no guns for anyone

I'm p cool with this

# ¿ Aug 16, 2019 02:32

UP THE BUM NO BABY: Sep 1, 2011; by Hand Knit

lol imagine trying to file a claim after surviving a mass shooting

# ¿ Aug 16, 2019 03:57

UP THE BUM NO BABY: Sep 1, 2011; by Hand Knit

Free rifle with each enlistment.

# ¿ Aug 16, 2019 05:16

UP THE BUM NO BABY: Sep 1, 2011; by Hand Knit

Cocksailor had a fun time the other day

# ¿ Aug 16, 2019 17:03

UP THE BUM NO BABY: Sep 1, 2011; by Hand Knit

https://twitter.com/connortryan/status/1162483087407796225

(USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)

# ¿ Aug 16, 2019 23:08

UP THE BUM NO BABY: Sep 1, 2011; by Hand Knit

Chichevache posted:

The best part is coming to a forum that's supposed to discourage suicide and being told to kill yourself.

You could always just not be a cop

# ¿ Aug 17, 2019 01:14

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# ¿ May 21, 2024 07:20

UP THE BUM NO BABY: Sep 1, 2011; by Hand Knit

Prop Wash posted:

gently caress off forever

I tell people in the army to get out and alcoholics to stop drinking, I'll tell cops that they should loving quit too. At no point did I wish anyone to kill themselves.

# ¿ Aug 17, 2019 01:26

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