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Dragonwagon: Mar 28, 2010; And that, as much as anything else, led to my drinking problem.

Those of you reading this for the first time, what do you think Johnny's power is going to be?

# ¿ Aug 18, 2019 17:01

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# ¿ May 19, 2024 09:05

Dragonwagon: Mar 28, 2010; And that, as much as anything else, led to my drinking problem.

I forgot how hilarious the lead up to the Dio fight is. The dumb snake jokes, the horse acrobatics, the panel where he flips his head around at Johnny and his coffee blindness absolutely slayed me.

I love it when Araki draws weirdos doing weird things.

# ¿ Aug 19, 2019 20:59

Dragonwagon: Mar 28, 2010; And that, as much as anything else, led to my drinking problem.

Yeah, I was surprised at how Johnny just figures the whole thing out the moment someone goes for the arm.

First-timers, make a wild guess about who the corpse is.

# ¿ Aug 19, 2019 21:36

Dragonwagon: Mar 28, 2010; And that, as much as anything else, led to my drinking problem.

Seriously though, what is the original joke supposed to be here? I assume it's some kind of untranslatable Japanese wordplay?

# ¿ Aug 26, 2019 18:03

Dragonwagon: Mar 28, 2010; And that, as much as anything else, led to my drinking problem.

GimmickMan posted:

I hate that Ringo Roadagain is a creepy rear end in a top hat with a suicide fetish and the story paints him as some enlightened loner pursuing a greater destiny that's above social norms.
I hate that he gets a flashback to his traumatic past as if it's supposed to make him sympathetic when more interesting characters don't get the same treatment.
I hate that the moral of the story is Gyro trying to be a good person is actually a bad thing and he needs to be more of a cold blooded rear end in a top hat like everyone else.
I hate that Gyro actually kills Ringo like he wants instead of just knocking him out and leaving him behind.
I hate that Gyro is inspired by Ringo's words to the point they magically let him catch up to Diego.

Very cool fight though. I like it even more upon rereading. Shame about the rest but at least that's behind now.

Yeah, I'm not a big fan of Ringo either. He's kinda presented as being more "noble" than the other terrorists, but I don't think killing someone in a fair duel is any better if you're forcing them into it in the first place. Hot Pants had the right idea, he's a total nutjob.

Also after Ringo explained his ability they could have all just left the orchard by keeping their eye on a watch. I know I'm just nitpicking with this and they don't realize this because then there would be no plot, but it kinda bothers me that there was such an obvious solution to their situation.

With regards to Gyro catching up to Diego: he does in fact do it magically. The corpse parts are moving together. That is how Gyro and Johnny can make up for hours of disadvantage.
While they are focusing on Diego, they can not get past him, because their corpse parts are drawn to his. Once Gyro starts focusing on the goal ahead instead (the spine, which is also Diego's goal), he appears at the same position as Diego.

# ¿ Aug 27, 2019 21:40

Dragonwagon: Mar 28, 2010; And that, as much as anything else, led to my drinking problem.

Bonus non-serious take: Ringo believes he's an rpg character, which is why he thinks he can achieve personal growth by killing people.

Araki is telling us that D&D is the work of the devil.

# ¿ Aug 27, 2019 22:07

Dragonwagon: Mar 28, 2010; And that, as much as anything else, led to my drinking problem.

GimmickMan posted:

Really though, I wouldn't have minded that happening again, what sat unwell with me was that Gyro pulling it off was directly inspired by the lunatic gunman who forced people into duels teaching him a valuable life lesson about going his own way. And that part is still there, in-universe explanation aside so... Oh well. Moving on.

I mean, it's not like he fully adapted Ringo's philosophy. He just managed to find a nugget of gold in a heap of trash.

# ¿ Aug 28, 2019 11:40

Dragonwagon: Mar 28, 2010; And that, as much as anything else, led to my drinking problem.

Arist posted:

Like, Gyro applying the Spin to his skin so it deflects a bullet impact: That's bullshit, but I believe it.

The flattening thing is just hilarious nonsense.

It's like when you spin pizza dough, it gets flat. This makes perfect sense, because Gyro is from Naples.

YggiDee posted:

until they find a Stand user whose Stand power is 'is a Walkman'

I mean, the guy they fight right after that has the ability to store sounds.

Dragonwagon fucked around with this message at 16:24 on Sep 2, 2019

# ¿ Sep 2, 2019 16:17

Dragonwagon: Mar 28, 2010; And that, as much as anything else, led to my drinking problem.

Nah. Diego had no reason to kill Nicholas, he just happened to be around at the time.

# ¿ Sep 5, 2019 16:31

Dragonwagon: Mar 28, 2010; And that, as much as anything else, led to my drinking problem.

On my first reading I didn't even notice Gyro doing his 4 2 0 gag here.

Johnny Joestar posted:

for the record like everything involving scarlet is some of my least-favorite poo poo in the part. if i had my way i'd find a means to excise it from the story, tbh

Lucy hatching a plan to infiltrate the president's home to harvest his organs, and actually succeeding at it, despite not having any of the magic powers that he and everyone around him does is pretty badass though. I'd say it's on par with Hayato blowing himself up to defuse Okuyasu.

# ¿ Sep 10, 2019 20:37

Dragonwagon: Mar 28, 2010; And that, as much as anything else, led to my drinking problem.

So why did Valentine need to guide Lucy to the ship with Jesus eye telepathy instead of just having his men take her there?

# ¿ Sep 17, 2019 16:24

Dragonwagon: Mar 28, 2010; And that, as much as anything else, led to my drinking problem.

Johnny Joestar posted:

part of the idea was so that no one would know where she went

Kinda dumb of him to get his own guys killed for that when he could have just taken her there through a different reality and nobody would be any wiser in this one.

dancingbears posted:

Sandman/Soundman theory

I consider this canon from now on.

# ¿ Sep 17, 2019 20:35

Dragonwagon: Mar 28, 2010; And that, as much as anything else, led to my drinking problem.

MachuPikacchu posted:

Let's not forget that he's the President of the United States of America, and elections aren't won by chance.

The United States of Valentine, you mean.

# ¿ Sep 18, 2019 16:41

Dragonwagon: Mar 28, 2010; And that, as much as anything else, led to my drinking problem.

This showdown is going to look so dope when it gets animated five years from now.

# ¿ Sep 24, 2019 17:03

Dragonwagon: Mar 28, 2010; And that, as much as anything else, led to my drinking problem.

Zyla posted:

i think im just a simple person

when there's dio in a story

i love the dio

give me a dio spinoff

gimme into the dioverse

edit : a dozen dios doing dastardly deeds

a diorama

# ¿ Sep 30, 2019 22:20

Dragonwagon: Mar 28, 2010; And that, as much as anything else, led to my drinking problem.

Yeah, come to think of it, what reason would the Johnny and Lucy of the corpseless worlds have to end up where they were in the base world? Did Johnny need the diamonds really badly for some super expensive spine surgery or robot legs or something? Did Lucy eat the diamonds?

# ¿ Oct 2, 2019 16:19

Dragonwagon: Mar 28, 2010; And that, as much as anything else, led to my drinking problem.

The meteorite made the Devil's Palm, and then the arm started moving it around, I guess.

# ¿ Oct 2, 2019 17:31

Dragonwagon: Mar 28, 2010; And that, as much as anything else, led to my drinking problem.

Jesus is actually Kars.

# ¿ Oct 2, 2019 18:07

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# ¿ May 19, 2024 09:05

Dragonwagon: Mar 28, 2010; And that, as much as anything else, led to my drinking problem.

There are probably countless worlds where things are radically different, but Valentine always goes to one that is fairly similar, since that's where he can find himself nearby.

In worlds that are similar, but Gyro lives, Valentine is most likely already dead.

# ¿ Oct 10, 2019 16:10

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