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| Joe Biden, the Klansman |
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8 | 0.91% |
| Bernie Sanders, the Hand Flailer |
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578 | 65.76% |
| Elizabeth Warren, the Plan Maker |
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185 | 21.05% |
| Kamala Harris, the Cop Lord |
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4 | 0.46% |
| Cory Booker, the Super Hero Wannabe |
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0 | 0% |
| Julian Castro, the Twin |
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3 | 0.34% |
| Kirsten Gillibrand, the Franken Killer |
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3 | 0.34% |
| Pete Buttigieg, the Troop Sociopath |
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9 | 1.02% |
| Robert Francis O'Rourke, the Fake Latino |
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2 | 0.23% |
| Jay Inslee, the Climate Alarmist |
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4 | 0.46% |
| Marianne Williamson, the Crystal Queen |
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19 | 2.16% |
| Andrew Yang, the $1000 Fool |
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19 | 2.16% |
| Tulsi Gabbard, the Muslim Hater |
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8 | 0.91% |
| Amy Klobuchar, the Comb Enthusiast |
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1 | 0.11% |
| Just like in real life, nobody voted for Hickenlooper |
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2 | 0.23% |
| Jeffrey Epstein, the MCC Most Hated |
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9 | 1.02% |
| KKKillary KKKlinton |
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16 | 1.82% |
| Some other idiot not in this list |
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9 | 1.02% |
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Hobo Erotica posted:I think the goal here is to defeat Trump, not necessarily to deliver a nuanced analysis of the economic matrix of the Obama administration The Obama economy directly led to Trump, so holding it up as some gold standard seems kinda self-defeating if your goal is to beat him.
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Aug 11, 2019 13:42
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It doesn't even matter because "the Obama economy" is meaningless to the vast majority of voters. Most people who vote based on economic factors are often basing their assessment on the handful of months immediately leading up to the election and their personal experience and anecdotes about people around them are going to be far more powerful than a focus grouped zinger about moving unemployment rates. Powerful economic messages are presented as storylines, typically with lots of heroes and villains, and with a focus on issues that are viscerally meaningful to regular people. So you talk about communities growing or dying, you talk about getting a job or getting fired, you talk about people denied compensation for their injuries, you invoke classic moral maxims about how hard work deserves fair pay, etc. You craft messages that adhere to the old advertising principle that "facts tell and stories sell".
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Aug 11, 2019 13:49
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Buttigieg elected mayor of turtle island in a landslide, ousting incumbent Master Roshi in a 6-1 vote
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Aug 11, 2019 14:11
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MOVIE MAJICK posted:Someone tell this non-us oblivious dude what it would take for Andrew Yang to win? I like him. First, he'd have to become a much better speaker. Second, he'd have to become a much better politician. Third, he'd have to come up with some much better policies and positions. It's not like he's a normal politician whose only unusual idea is the Freedom Dividend. His issues page reads like a libertarian fever dream, it's just that no one cares enough to draw attention to it as long as he's just a joke candidate.
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Aug 11, 2019 14:36
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Main Paineframe posted:First, he'd have to become a much better speaker. Second, he'd have to become a much better politician. Third, he'd have to come up with some much better policies and positions. Also, hiring an advisor smart enough to tell him "I'm an Asian guy who is good at math! That's the opposite of Donald Trump! AN ASIAN GUY WHO IS GOOD AT MATH!" is _not_ the slam dunk "vote for me" argument he thinks it is. Like seriously he will not stop saying that over and over like it's this amazing idea. It's getting concerning.
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Aug 11, 2019 14:48
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https://twitter.com/sahilkapur/status/1160549831812759552 In which the punditry completely glosses over the fact that the most frequent second choice for Bernie voters is Biden (and for Warren voters is Harris). It's because polling is still useless name recognition, but also because neither candidate's voter base is nearly as progressive as the narrative (and/or wishful thinking) holds it out to be.
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Aug 11, 2019 15:07
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Got video from someone I know in Austin through my Indivisible days. Looks like Mayor Pete spent yesterday marching in their Pride event.
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Aug 11, 2019 15:14
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Bernie: peddling votes, eating at diners with fat old white Iowans Buttogieg: marching in a Pride event in Austin with no fanfare or media presence Really speaks to their priorities
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Aug 11, 2019 15:16
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Calibanibal posted:Bernie: peddling votes, eating at diners with fat old white Iowans I feel like you want me to think Sanders is doing the better thing here but I just can’t. Standing with a marginalized group even in the absence of publicity is cool and good, better than going to a diner to court the “economically anxious” with cameras all around.
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Aug 11, 2019 15:37
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PT6A posted:I feel like you want me to think Sanders is doing the better thing here but I just can’t. Standing with a marginalized group even in the absence of publicity is cool and good, better than going to a diner to court the “economically anxious” with cameras all around. Love the scare quotes to imply that millions of people aren't on the edge of poverty every day and that what Bernie is really courting is the people who voted for trump for no reason other than racism Even better job falling for calibanabal
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Aug 11, 2019 15:44
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Not sure it was "without fanfare" anyway, didn't mean to suggest that. More that my friend wasn't aware he was going to be there until pow, there he was. https://www.kvue.com/article/news/l...05-fd2c46fcae3b
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Aug 11, 2019 15:45
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Also a cis white gay dude who happens to be a member of the ruling class marching in pride isn't something to cheer, motherfuckers will throw everyone else under the bus in a pico second Like drat he did the thing that required the least amount of effort, at an event that has largely been coopted by corporations and politicians to make themselves look woke
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Aug 11, 2019 15:47
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BENGHAZI 2 posted:Also a cis white gay dude who happens to be a member of the ruling class marching in pride isn't something to cheer, motherfuckers will throw everyone else under the bus in a pico second It's the only thing masking his sociopathic careerism so the bare minimum has to be played up as actually incredibly important, certainly much more so than giving a poo poo about most Americans who are being ground into the loving dirt on a daily basis.
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Aug 11, 2019 15:50
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MSDOS KAPITAL posted:Did Stalin drop out of the race? The architect of the human soul and the engineer of civilizations won the race that mattered, friend 
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Aug 11, 2019 15:53
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Also lol at talking up marching at a Pride event for a dude who wants a trans woman imprisoned and tortured indefinitely at best, executed at worst.
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Aug 11, 2019 15:54
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Oh Snapple! posted:Also lol at talking up marching at a Pride event for a dude who wants a trans woman imprisoned and tortured indefinitely at best, executed at worst. Like I said Cis white gay dudes with money will throw the rest of us under the bus without a moment's hesitation
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Aug 11, 2019 16:00
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Oh Snapple! posted:Also lol at talking up marching at a Pride event for a dude who wants a trans woman imprisoned and tortured indefinitely at best, executed at worst. A funnier poster than me should make a joke about the Raytheon "we need more lgbt engineers" recruiting program in colleges.
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Aug 11, 2019 16:02
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Nemo2342 posted:https://twitter.com/thehill/status/1160339311679741953 Why did they pick the most Asian-looking picture of Musk I've ever seen in my loving life?
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Aug 11, 2019 16:10
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BENGHAZI 2 posted:Also a cis white gay dude who happens to be a member of the ruling class marching in pride isn't something to cheer, motherfuckers will throw everyone else under the bus in a pico second You’re absolutely right, he needs to go much, much further. But that road goes further away from Iowan diners, not back to them.
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Aug 11, 2019 16:11
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Chilichimp posted:Why did they pick the most Asian-looking picture of Musk I've ever seen in my loving life? Angle and lighting. 
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Aug 11, 2019 16:14
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PT6A posted:You’re absolutely right, he needs to go much, much further. But that road goes further away from Iowan diners, not back to them. Why are you refusing to admit that addressing the issues normal human beings face every day is good Why is it bad to talk to people and say, hey, your poo poo? It sucks. I know. Im going to make it better Is it because you assume those people are all racist because you should probably stop repeating hillbot talking points
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Aug 11, 2019 16:14
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PT6A posted:You’re absolutely right, he needs to go much, much further. But that road goes further away from Iowan diners, not back to them. That’s idiotic. There are plenty of lgbt+ people in the rural Midwest.
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Aug 11, 2019 16:14
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PT6A posted:You’re absolutely right, he needs to go much, much further. But that road goes further away from Iowan diners, not back to them. You know how elections and campaigns work, right. To say nothing of this dead-end philosophy of saying 'gently caress you' to poor people and letting the right be the only ones talking to them.
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Aug 11, 2019 16:15
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Rappaport posted:The architect of the human soul and the engineer of civilizations won the race that mattered, friend That stage in CoD was hella fun.
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Aug 11, 2019 16:15
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Also absolutely lol at admitting that Pete was pandering but Bernie talking to the people whose votes he needs, who would be helped by his policies, that's loving bullshit they're probably all racist and don't deserve to not be ground into a fine powder by our idiot assed system
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Aug 11, 2019 16:15
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Oh Snapple! posted:You know how elections and campaigns work, right. I was about to say, it's not like a lot of the racial tension in America comes from our ruling class' dogged refusal to address economic concerns and letting the right push the blame onto brown people
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Aug 11, 2019 16:17
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Aug 11, 2019 16:18
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BENGHAZI 2 posted:I was about to say, it's not like a lot of the racial tension in America comes from our ruling class' dogged refusal to address economic concerns and letting the right push the blame onto brown people It really can't be stated enough how literally everyone wins by pointing these folks at the people actually destroying them instead of oppressed communities suffering right along with (and in very many cases, actually worse than) them.
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Aug 11, 2019 16:19
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BENGHAZI 2 posted:Also a cis white gay dude who happens to be a member of the ruling class marching in pride isn't something to cheer, motherfuckers will throw everyone else under the bus in a pico second Cis white gay dudes are the cis white straight dudes of the LGBT+ community. That Chelsea Manning answer was appalling.
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Aug 11, 2019 16:27
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BENGHAZI 2 posted:Like I said Accurate, but the 'with money' part is really the most important one here. They'll roast us alive to protect their privilege and blame it on any and every scapegoat.
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Aug 11, 2019 17:00
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Ghost Leviathan posted:Accurate, but the 'with money' part is really the most important one here. They'll roast us alive to protect their privilege and blame it on any and every scapegoat. ehhhhh i know plenty of cis white gay guys who dont have money and are still incredibly lovely about everyone else in the quiltbag i mean money is obviously a much broader and obvious thing but cis gay dudes are wildly lovely to other queer folks
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Aug 11, 2019 17:05
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PT6A posted:You’re absolutely right, he needs to go much, much further. But that road goes further away from Iowan diners, not back to them. You do understand that Obama won Iowa in 2008 and 2012 and that Clinton lost it in 2016, right?
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Aug 11, 2019 17:19
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It seems that there's some subspecies of liberal brain spiders that makes the victim divide the US into Good States and Bad States and also makes them assume that the Bad States are populated entirely by some subhuman redneck troglodyte stereotypes and hence they deserve to be collectively punished.
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Aug 11, 2019 17:36
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Aug 11, 2019 17:36
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Cerebral Bore posted:It seems that there's some subspecies of liberal brain spiders that makes the victim divide the US into Good States and Bad States and also makes them assume that the Bad States are populated entirely by some subhuman redneck troglodyte stereotypes and hence they deserve to be collectively punished. no its literally "filthy rural poors i bet they're all astonishingly racist how dare bernie court the racists" which a) how did ignoring the working class go in 2016 b) lol do you think "Moderate republicans" arent racist, and the party has no problem courting them c) the whole thing about racial tensions being stoked by the ruling class to stop the proles from building solidarity and standing against them
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Aug 11, 2019 17:37
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hahaha https://twitter.com/cornpuddy/status/1160588679825559552?s=20
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Aug 11, 2019 17:43
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Helsing posted:You do understand that Obama won Iowa in 2008 and 2012 and that Clinton lost it in 2016, right? Yes, I remember those happy days back before evangelical Christian white supremacy, emboldened by a supportive administration, became clearly the greatest existential threat to the United States in our lifetimes. Those days before 2016, when we were shown that white people would sell out their own economic interests in favour of supporting those same white supremacists. I pray we don't make the same mistakes again.
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Aug 11, 2019 17:44
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Cerebral Bore posted:It seems that there's some subspecies of liberal brain spiders that makes the victim divide the US into Good States and Bad States and also makes them assume that the Bad States are populated entirely by some subhuman redneck troglodyte stereotypes and hence they deserve to be collectively punished. Moviebob is pretty much the end result of when you don't hear the loud part and say the quiet part loud. BENGHAZI 2 posted:ehhhhh i know plenty of cis white gay guys who dont have money and are still incredibly lovely about everyone else in the quiltbag I can also believe that. Kind of the whole deal of Republicans is convincing people they'll be spared based on one keyword of their label. (they won't)
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Aug 11, 2019 17:55
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PT6A posted:Yes, I remember those happy days back before evangelical Christian white supremacy, emboldened by a supportive administration, became clearly the greatest existential threat to the United States in our lifetimes. Those days before 2016, when we were shown that white people would sell out their own economic interests in favour of supporting those same white supremacists. I pray we don't make the same mistakes again. well we had the bush years. getting sick of these reboots.
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Aug 11, 2019 17:58
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PT6A posted:Yes, I remember those happy days back before evangelical Christian white supremacy, emboldened by a supportive administration, became clearly the greatest existential threat to the United States in our lifetimes. Those days before 2016, when we were shown that white people would sell out their own economic interests in favour of supporting those same white supremacists. I pray we don't make the same mistakes again. Do you understand how the electoral college works?
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