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Magic: the Gathering is cool and good. Too bad about everything else surrounding it. The magiccards.info link in the OP should be changed to scryfall.com. Also, we have an MtG goon Discord now! https://discord.gg/2M9HSa
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# ¿ Aug 28, 2019 17:27 |
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# ¿ May 22, 2024 01:44 |
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Tainen posted:https://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/magic-digital/mtg-arena-state-beta-august-29-2019#Historic Booooo you dumbasses
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# ¿ Aug 29, 2019 18:24 |
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Tainen posted:They just mentioned on stream some of the historic exclusive cards they are currently testing
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# ¿ Aug 29, 2019 22:16 |
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Sampatrick posted:Fetch lands officially never getting a reprint Like ever, or into Standard? One sucks big time and the other is no surprise at all.
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# ¿ Aug 29, 2019 22:26 |
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Sampatrick posted:I mean probably never in standard but we'll see a paper reprint soon enough. If historic has brainstorm tho we're never going to see fetches in standard. No fetches in Standard doesn't surprise me, I think if Wizards could wave a magic wand and get rid of them in every format they would. Evolving Wilds is probably mostly harmless for Standard/Historic though. Maybe even Prismatic Vista someday? Actually this Historic cards concept is proof of my theory that Wizards wants Historic to eventually just be Modern without fetchlands, except they're going about it in the most rear end-backwards way imaginable.
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# ¿ Aug 29, 2019 23:02 |
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smertrioslol posted:What’s everyone playing tonight for modern FNM? Mill because I'm a dork and also I plan on running stuff that's familiar to me while everyone else scrambles to figure out what the hell is going on. Plus with fast Faithless Looting decks gone and everyone searching off of their Stoneforge Mystics I feel maybe even some slight optimism about the deck.
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# ¿ Aug 30, 2019 13:27 |
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smertrioslol posted:I think mill is probably pretty strong right now. Doesn’t seem like a meme deck anymore, and the field of ruin + archive trap interaction will be fantastic without the GY decks and the assumed prevalence of tron. I don't think the deck has gotten a lot better in a vacuum (though Scheming Symmetry has shown a little bit of promise) but if the meta moves the way that people expect it to then I think those moves will be good for Mill. Fewer decks that use the graveyard as a resource and more decks that want to drag the game out, though Izzet Phoenix was a good matchup for Mill and I'll be sad to see it go. The deck needs another playable 1-mana mill spell to be truly viable though. Would it have killed them to make Stream of Thought a little bit better?
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# ¿ Aug 30, 2019 13:53 |
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smertrioslol posted:FNM trip report with grixis control We didn't have enough people for FNM to fire and the only person who wanted to throw down for practice was running a deck with Emrakul, versus me on Mill I can't catch a break.
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# ¿ Aug 31, 2019 05:00 |
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Light and Shadow is good in grindy matchups since you can get back creatures from your graveyard and gain life. Plus it's pseudo protection from red if the creature you equip it to have at least 2 toughness.
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# ¿ Aug 31, 2019 13:52 |
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DAD LOST MY IPOD posted:i was hoping we’d get at least a couple of teaser spoilers this weekend. come on WOTC!!! Feed the maw!!! Isn't it PAX this weekend? We should get a few spoilers when Wizards does their PAX panel.
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# ¿ Aug 31, 2019 21:48 |
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Sickening posted:Did they say never or is this some weird guess? Arena is the easiest place to do fetch lands mechanically. It’s fast as hell. They're easy to do on Arena but people will still raise complaints about how much shuffling they create in paper. They have to be tolerable on both platforms. Honestly I think the biggest roadblock right now for fetches in Standard is that people still remember BFZ Standard and the 4c piles that fetches + typed duals allowed for. We won't get that combination in Standard for a long time if ever, so at the very least we'll have to wait until the shocklands are out of Standard again.
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# ¿ Aug 31, 2019 23:08 |
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Sickening posted:M20 has more cards with shuffling than khans. War of the spark does as well. Shuffling in paper isn’t going away. Just make a format where every deck doesn’t want to include 8 fetches and everyone wins. Shuffling isn't going away, but fetchlands have such a low deckbuilding cost and a high enough upside that they'd only be "just OK" in a format without typed duals. And honestly I think Wizards wants to have the "typed dual" design space to play around in.
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# ¿ Sep 1, 2019 00:34 |
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Eej posted:They're gonna push all the big 'uns into Historic and never print fetches again and silently replace Modern with it I thought this as well but I want to see what form they use to grandfather older cards into the format, otherwise it seems like it' s going to be mad difficult to keep track of what is and isn't legal. You basically need to print some sort of Historic Horizons set.
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# ¿ Sep 1, 2019 02:21 |
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cheetah7071 posted:The format "historic" uses significantly more recent cards than the format "modern" Not for long it sounds like Tainen posted:They just mentioned on stream some of the historic exclusive cards they are currently testing That's four Modern-legal cards and one Legacy-legal card. If this is their pattern for cards to include in Historic then it's going to get really confusing really fast unless they do some sort of reprint set specifically branded for Historic. "Historic Masters" does have a nice ring to it...
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# ¿ Sep 1, 2019 02:28 |
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Sampatrick posted:Four best performing decks are Burn, Whirza, Tron, and Titanshift in that order Mill beats up on 3/4 of those, let's go bay-beeeeeeeeee
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# ¿ Sep 1, 2019 19:25 |
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Aniodia posted:Holy poo poo, what? Why? The latest set of EDH pre-cons includes a Naya deck centered around the Populate mechanic.
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# ¿ Sep 2, 2019 19:02 |
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bessantj posted:Played my first ever game of M:tG tonight. I quite enjoyed it, not as complicated as I thought it would be. I played two games in total and managed to win one, I had a couple of lucky draws. Think I'm going to try and build a deck. Welcome. Magic: the Gathering is a fun game even if there's a lot of BS that surrounds it. Seconding Limited events as a good way to get into the game and build up a little paper collection. You might also want to look out for a pre-release event for the new set coming out this fall, those are always fun and not super-competitive because everyone is seeing the cards for the first time.
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# ¿ Sep 3, 2019 00:32 |
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ilmucche posted:Prerelease is super chill. If you find a store with flat prize structure it's the best. My lgs for all its flaws does 2 packs for every regardless of position so everyone brews the most ridiculous thing they can think of. RIP in peace my UR Treasure deck from the Ixalan pre-release, far and away the best Limited deck I ever put together.
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# ¿ Sep 3, 2019 02:55 |
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evilweasel posted:also apparently they've got a new euphemism for "not tanking the price of the secondary market" Where is this quote from because lol
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# ¿ Sep 4, 2019 00:37 |
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I kind of wish Historic wasn't stillborn because I would give BW Knights a fair shot in that format.
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# ¿ Sep 4, 2019 15:14 |
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Jabor posted:Kinda weird that they wrote that as a 0/3 instead of a */3. Or is that a screenshot from it being in play in Arena? I think a * in a creature's power or toughness means that the value is always being checked based on the card's rules text. Since Arena is digital that number can just be updated in real-time instead of requiring players to remember the value as it changes. In print it'll probably read as a */3.
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# ¿ Sep 5, 2019 04:28 |
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I've had more than one person claim that Lovestruck Beast is a Sorcery Creature I've been telling people that Adventure is a fancy version of cards that have an activated ability you can use from your hand, like Simian Spirit Guide or Faerie Macabre.
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# ¿ Sep 5, 2019 14:22 |
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fadam posted:I get that there are different strokes for different folks, and I understand that Magic is a game that appeals to a broad spectrum of interests, but I will never understand why people like singleton lmfao. What is the appeal of Magic with the worst part (variance) cranked up? I guess I've only played it during arena events, so maybe its a lot better with a tuned deck. Some people like having a wider variety of cards to play with? Plus only needing one of each card like Sickening said. For my part though, when I did play EDH I was the rear end in a top hat with a Commander that cod tutor for a lot of the cards in the deck, so variance was less of an issue for me.
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# ¿ Sep 5, 2019 19:01 |
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I suddenly recall the Legacy deck flowchart from 2014 and its Burn sequence: "Why do you want to play Legacy?" | V "I just got enough money to play!" | V "Did you really?" | V "No" | V [[Burn]]
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# ¿ Sep 8, 2019 19:14 |
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The American Dream posted:Does anyone have any experience with blue black mill in their playgroups? Hello. I haven't had a ton of time to play it lately but people are excited about Mill for the first time in a while, due to fast GY decks getting kneecapped and the format skewing a little slower/midrangey as a result (plus everyone tutoring up cards with SFM). I do think the deck is still one good 1 or 2 CMC mill spell away from being truly viable, but you can definitely steal matches at FNM or MTGO leagues. What would you like to know? E: This is my current list but I am giving strong consideration to going -1 Bridge -1 Ashiok -2 Collective Brutality and +1 Mesmeric Orb +3 Manic Scribe next time I make it out. Would like to get a second CoBru in the board to make up for it but I keep running into Dreadhorde Arcanist locally. Time posted:I can hear the furious typing now from the mill guy (who owns) Thank you for your support friend! C-Euro fucked around with this message at 21:38 on Sep 8, 2019 |
# ¿ Sep 8, 2019 19:26 |
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The American Dream posted:Does scheming symmetry work? 1. It's promising. It's inherent card disadvantage but having several ways to get rid of whatever your opponent tutored is handy. Trap + Symmetry in your opener lets you ding them for 13 and get another Trap for their turn 2/3/whatever fetchland. Some people are running 4 copies and doing a tutor package but I don't think I want more than 3. 2. There's a few borderline mill spells but Fraying Sanity and Mind Funeral are the closest to playable right now. Unfortunately they're too slow and too inconsistent respectively. Please don't run Tome Scour or Mind Sculpt except for budget reasons. 3. Related to the above, a Mind Funeral for >15 cards might win you the game, but a Mind Funeral for 8 or 9 will definitely lose you the game. There was a time when it might have been good where a lot of the top decks were running 18-20 lands (Izzet Phoenix, Tron, GDS, Hardened Scales etc.) but that meta has sadly passed. 3. Extirpate is a good sub for Surgical and is especially good if you see a lot of UW Control. Surgical is still better and will hopefully go down a bit in price. 4. God no. The fact that Shelldock always comes into play tapped can slow your clock down a lot and it's a nice target for land destruction. Most people run 2 but I've been running 1 for a while as I don't like to see it in my opening hand. 5. WAR Ashiok is a good closer, I've been running 1 maindeck for a little while. The fact that it exiles your opponent's GY each time you activate it is a huge bummer as your "reach" cards like Crypt Incursion and Visions of Beyond use the opponent's GY as a resource, so you typically don't want to start activating it until you've already cast a big Incursion or gotten a draw-3 with Visions (note that Visions becomes a draw-3 if ANY graveyard has 20+ cards, so keep an eye on your yard too!). The "opponents can't search" clause is handy too as this shut offs closers like Scapeshift and Nahiri the Harbinger, while still making them search from your own Scheming Symmetry and Field of Ruin. E: If you want to get extra spicy some people are playing around with splashing a third color, either green for Assassin's Trophy or white for Path + more SB options. C-Euro fucked around with this message at 23:08 on Sep 8, 2019 |
# ¿ Sep 8, 2019 23:05 |
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My removal right now it 3 Fatal Push 2 Collective Brutality 1 Murderous Cut but the Brutalities haven't been great for me lately and might get cut soon. CoBru takes a huge steamy dump on Burn so if there's a lot of that around I'd keep them. I was running 3 Inquisition for a while but dropped them for Scheming Symmetry, though some amount of SB discard makes sense (IoK, CoBru, Thoughtseize) I think Orb is a little tricky to sell as a reprint, it has some weird timing quirks due to happening on the untap step and it's not really a card that's fondly remembered by many players. But it's really good and borderline required for the deck even if it's a non-bo with Scheming Symmetry (and a sort of non-bo with Mission Briefing). You'll find in general that the static mill effects like Orb and Hedron Crab will take over games if left alone, which is why I'm curious to try out Manic Scribe which to me has always felt like a "bubble" card for the deck. C-Euro fucked around with this message at 23:50 on Sep 8, 2019 |
# ¿ Sep 8, 2019 23:47 |
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TIL that we also have a emote
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# ¿ Sep 9, 2019 03:13 |
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AnEdgelord posted:My first thought with Once Upon a Time is amulet titan. Finding your Azusas and Prime Times as well as lands seems amazing. I had a similar thought for Valakut, which already has a couple of ramp spell flex spots. But it seems like it should be run as a four-of even though it might be worse than a ramp spell after turn 1.
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# ¿ Sep 9, 2019 16:05 |
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jassi007 posted:Thinking the same thing. T1 suspend Search and this, or T2 this then explore. Probably cut farseeks? Explore has always felt like more a flex than Farseek but I agree that any potential cuts will be to those two cards.
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# ¿ Sep 9, 2019 16:31 |
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Hellsau posted:I could be talked into Valakut running Once Upon A Time over Summoner's Pact, but it might just not be worth it in Modern. Pact is really important for tutoring up SB creatures like Rec Sage, I don't think it'll ever go away. The fact that you can dig for a Valakut is pretty nice though.
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# ¿ Sep 9, 2019 16:53 |
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Can't wait for my Revolutionary Europe plane coming early 2022
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# ¿ Sep 9, 2019 19:39 |
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Finally, a finisher for BW Tokens
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# ¿ Sep 11, 2019 15:08 |
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Count Bleck posted:
Lmao you can't catch him unless you're just as fart. Genius.
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# ¿ Sep 11, 2019 15:37 |
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Elyv posted:Two neat things about this: I think you can sac this to stuff like Gilded Goose which cares about Food specifically, or at least it seems logical that you should be able to.
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# ¿ Sep 11, 2019 16:33 |
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Oh OH
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# ¿ Sep 11, 2019 19:02 |
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Star Man posted:At least people have heard of those things. Uhhhhhhh maybe you've heard a little indie film called The Sword in the Stone, thanks there is actually very little of the Arthurian myth in that movie
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# ¿ Sep 12, 2019 13:40 |
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Buy your Eternal Scourges now
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# ¿ Sep 12, 2019 16:17 |
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Orange Fluffy Sheep posted:I could see this following Kiora, Behemoth Beckoner in some sort of Big Boys deck. I've been wanting a deck for that card ever since it was first spoiled, so yeah I'm on board.
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# ¿ Sep 12, 2019 21:17 |
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# ¿ May 22, 2024 01:44 |
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The Mill Discord rn https://youtu.be/co6WMzDOh1o
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# ¿ Sep 16, 2019 14:06 |