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Soylent Yellow
Nov 5, 2010

yospos

Considering that a lot of these moderate Tories are already under threat of deselection by organised hard brexit factions who've co-opted their local Parties or facing vote-splitting Brexit Party candidates, I'm not sure how much force this threat holds over them. If they've already decided their seats are forfeit, this is more likely to push them into open rebellion.

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Soylent Yellow
Nov 5, 2010

yospos

Surprise Giraffe posted:

Is there anything to stop bojo actually pushing the exit date backwards? Might be their last shot if they think they're going to be kicked out anyway. Wouldn't really make a difference to the degree of chaos and the blaming the mess on remainers/Corbyn strategy.

Farage.

The Brexit party apparently has candidates of varying degrees of lunacy ready to stand in every constituency. So long as Boris keeps his foot firmly on the no deal accelerator pedal, they've sort of promised to stay out of his way. If he takes his foot off even a fraction, all bets are off and the next GE becomes a blue-on-blue bloodbath.

Soylent Yellow
Nov 5, 2010

yospos

LOCUST FART HELL posted:

I posted this on reddit's legal advice UK subreddit but I'll repost it here to see what advice I can get.

Hello, I have just moved to a new city and into shared accomodation. I had moved most of my stuff in when I realised the door to my room did not have a lock on it. I have a key to the front and the back doors (which if not actually locked can be opened from the outside without a key).

I did some cursory research, which indicated that houses of multiple occupancy are required to have locks on the rooms, and texted my landlord to request a lock for my room. He said it wasn't possible, as he did not want to be called out for when people lose their keys. I pushed back a bit, stating that from my understanding that it is the law that shared houses have locks on the rooms, and he responded by telling not to "guess the law", that he is a professional landlord, that he does not need this on a Sunday evening, and that if I don't like it he is willing to void the contract and I can find somewhere else.

I've decided to leave it there for now, but wanted to ask you folk, what is the legality of this? Do I have a leg to stand on here?

e: Also this is in England

For context, I am a 30 year old professional, this is not student housing. It is just the room I am renting, I have an en suite but there is a shared kitchen.

You have a rather significant leg to stand on, but you need to be asking yourself if this is the kind of landlord you want to be dealing with. If taking him up on his offer and telling him to get stuffed is not an option, I would fit a cheap lock to the door to tide you over while you look for a place not owned by a slumlord.

Soylent Yellow
Nov 5, 2010

yospos

Nuclear Spoon posted:

also given what the Whip actually is i am confused by the etymology of the phrase "withdrawing the whip"

This is essentially probation for MPs. MPs are technically elected as individuals rather than members of their respective parties. The whip is the token that signifies a Tory MP is actually a Tory, and withdrawing it technically makes them an Independent Libdem.

Soylent Yellow
Nov 5, 2010

yospos

frumpykvetchbot posted:

how is it even possible that Mogg lived to adulthood.

Philip Lee said in an interview earlier that Rees-Mogg being a oval office on a radio interview was the final nail in causing him to defect.

Soylent Yellow
Nov 5, 2010

yospos

Angepain posted:

I only just learned that a person called Guto Bebb exists and now he's not even going to be around come the next election. Heartbreaking.

It's a perfectly unremarkable name, what's the fuss?

(I live in deepest, darkest Wales)

Soylent Yellow
Nov 5, 2010

yospos

Ms Fuchi posted:

Most people in Wales on holiday from Stoke, in my experience

There or Liverpool. The entire population of the Wirral invades here every summer.

Soylent Yellow
Nov 5, 2010

yospos
Slightly disappointed that Bercow hasn't taken the opportunity to tell Rees-Mogg to sit up straight and stop slouching.

Soylent Yellow
Nov 5, 2010

yospos
If I was Corbyn, I'd tell Boris "Here, you can have your majority back. Take Kate Hoey, you deserve her"

Soylent Yellow
Nov 5, 2010

yospos

bump_fn posted:

what if brexit leads to a written constitution

im not even gonna say "and the abolitio of the monarchy" im not that greedy

but what if

Just think, this would be the bunch of clowns writing it.

Soylent Yellow
Nov 5, 2010

yospos

forkboy84 posted:

King Jacob Rees-Mogg

He's actually a pleb, and hilariously resentful about it. His father was only a life peer, not proper nobility. Hence the massively overdone 18th century country lord act.

Soylent Yellow
Nov 5, 2010

yospos
Bercow was planning to step down, but they've almost definitely riled him up enough that he'll stay on just to put the boot in to Rees-Mogg.

Soylent Yellow
Nov 5, 2010

yospos

feedmegin posted:

More like 15?

Each Labour fuckup is a Conservative getting the chop.

Soylent Yellow
Nov 5, 2010

yospos

jabby posted:

lol if the rebels had already resigned themselves to losing the whip why the gently caress would they change their minds overnight?


It turns tomorrow's vote into Bring a Friend day for the rebels. I'm expecting to see more rather than less tomorrow.

Soylent Yellow
Nov 5, 2010

yospos

Qwertycoatl posted:

Conversely, I know that at least 21 consituency tory parties are absolutely not ready for an October election.

Doubtful. I'd be very surprised if at least half of them haven't had a hard brexiteer candidate on standby for months.

Soylent Yellow
Nov 5, 2010

yospos
Boris Johnson must be keeping a legion of lip-readers at work right now. With the amount of exasperated muttering he seems to be doing, I think "Stupid woman" would probably be mild in comparison.

Soylent Yellow
Nov 5, 2010

yospos

Nuclear Spoon posted:

also i am surprised nobody's picked up the mace yet

If somebody beat IDS to death with the mace, does that make the queen a murderer?

Soylent Yellow
Nov 5, 2010

yospos

an angry penguin posted:

Just fyi you're not allowed to say "gently caress the tories" in the chat

:(

Gently caress the tories?

Soylent Yellow
Nov 5, 2010

yospos

sauer kraut posted:

Accusing someone of being a liar, but the stream was glitchy and skipped a bit.

Specifically, being sacked twice for lying. Hopefully, not long before number three.

Soylent Yellow
Nov 5, 2010

yospos
Stupid Boris. Can't even sack himself properly.

Soylent Yellow
Nov 5, 2010

yospos

OwlFancier posted:

I mean that's true, we already know the government is full of sexual deviants.

Why else do you think the Tory party is so preoccupied with applying or withholding the whip?

Soylent Yellow
Nov 5, 2010

yospos

Jedit posted:

Yes, but that doesn't mean that the public get to see it unredacted.

One of the side-benefits for Boris of proroguing parliament is that there's no chance of an uppity MP reading the complete unredacted document live on BBC Parliament. At least not until tuesday.

Soylent Yellow
Nov 5, 2010

yospos

CoolCab posted:

i'll say it again - i think a bxp con electoral alliance is basically a lock. if they can't do it in public, it will be a backroom thing - weaker candidates instead of straight up not standing eg.

Weaker candidates would still be a bloodbath, just not quite as big a bloodbath. Most people don't vote for the local candidate, they vote for the leader or party. The Brexit Party fielding a complete washout of a candidate would still be enough to destabilise a Tory marginal.

Soylent Yellow
Nov 5, 2010

yospos
I have a welder, and plenty of spiky scrap metal to weld to my car with it. Is there an alternative dresscode to bondage gear, though? It might get a bit too chilly in the British winter.

Soylent Yellow
Nov 5, 2010

yospos

OwlFancier posted:

I think heavy leather and a big freddie mercury tash is acceptable.

Mercury tash would be fine, but it pisses it down all the time here. Wet heavy leather would probably chafe like hell (I'm probably taking all the joy out of this by overthinking it).

I think I'll pick The Postman Holnist Survivalist route. Military surplus is much more practical, and I could top the ensemble off with a great beard. Plus, I could call myself a Baron.

Soylent Yellow
Nov 5, 2010

yospos

Sanitary Naptime posted:

Greatcoats own in the winter

I have an old postwar West German army greatcoat that I traded a cheap powerdrill for years ago with a friend who had a slightly unhealthy militaria fetish. It's about the time of the year that I should be thinking of digging it out again.

Soylent Yellow
Nov 5, 2010

yospos

Doctor_Fruitbat posted:

Maybe so, but I'll be the one eating your beans after your makeshift knife fails to penetrate my £500 artisanal bin lid armour with chic bottle top accoutrements.

You haven't seen any of my makeshift knives. Come the apocalypse, I'll take up my true calling as Lord Tetanus, chief weaponsmith of the Awful Riders, UKMT chapter.

Soylent Yellow
Nov 5, 2010

yospos
Best one I ever had was a Soviet one, I think Romanian. Weighed a ton, but was wonderfully comfortable and doubled as a great blanket. :ussr:

Soylent Yellow
Nov 5, 2010

yospos
The best way to learn Welsh is through full immersion, ideally at a young age. Where you live will have quite an effect on it, because Welsh language use is quite patchy. To hear it spoken a lot, you generally have to be outside the larger towns or cities. I live in Northwest Wales, and I probably speak more Welsh than English on a day-to-day basis I was born in Staffordshire. My workplace is completely Welsh, too.

I did however live near Brecon for a few years, and hardly heard the language there.

Soylent Yellow
Nov 5, 2010

yospos

runwiled posted:

UKMT, I need you to weigh in on something:

My younger siblings shared a photo in a family chat we have on Whatsapp. The photo is of a glass case with various belt buckles, knives, bayonets and other paraphernalia from WWII, backed with newspapers from VE day. Featured at the front of the case and with a close-up sent in a second image is an SS ring.

This case sits in the corner of someone's living room who is a friend of my sibling. Apparently this collection belonged to the friend's grandfather who was a veteran. After expressing concern about visiting someone who displays Nazi memorabilia we were reassured by my sibling that the owner of the cabinet is, "A leftie with a sense of humour," and, "Decent folk."

What is the thread's take on displaying Nazi items in one's living room?

If it's just a couple of Nazi-originating items in the midst of a larger collection, then it should probably get a pass. Wall-to-wall swastikas, no. Displaying these items as keepsakes or curios of historical significance is different from glorifying them.

Soylent Yellow
Nov 5, 2010

yospos

Gonzo McFee posted:

Remember, according to Alastair Campbell there are people the Lib Dems are rejecting. That implies they saw nothing wrong with this social and fiscal Conservative slug who voted to leave the EU joining their Liberal Party that has defined itself as the EU party.

Just fantastic politics.

This probably means Anna Soubry turned up at the door asking to be deputy leader, and got told to do one.

I'd imagine rather a lot of key people at a constituency level must be getting rather annoyed by this. You spend years working your way up through the ranks, weather the 2015 massacre, and when things are finally looking up and you have a shot at parliament, a carpetbagging Tory fleeing a sinking ship gets parachuted into your place.

Soylent Yellow
Nov 5, 2010

yospos

Continuity RCP posted:

Are they still made by slaves?

Do they outsource their manufacturing to Bangladesh?

Soylent Yellow
Nov 5, 2010

yospos
Discos are the best crisp. Their salt and vinegar flavouring is powerful enough to etch glass.

Soylent Yellow
Nov 5, 2010

yospos

CGI Stardust posted:

What would a protest split to force a Corbyn resignation even achieve? It's not Corbyn who's doing this

bad man jermy croybn is an evil wizard who made my cows get the ague. opinions only appear as a result of authority. material conditions don't exist

They're seeing him as the head of the Momentum serpent. If he wasn't around bringing up awkward little ideas such as socialism, Momentum would obviously go away and stop bothering them, allowing them to get on with the important matter of being Tory-lite. Also, they're terrified that successfully kicking Watson out would embolden Momentum enough to declare open season on them.

Soylent Yellow
Nov 5, 2010

yospos

Strom Cuzewon posted:

BSE only "spreads" if you feed the cow to other cows, so "reintroduced" is a bit misleading. Technically accurate, but likely to be interpreted completely wrongly.

Now the real scary thing is that CJD can take up to 40 years to develop (although I'm not sure if that applies to vCJD) so theres still a small chance that we're all going to drop dead with holes in our brains.

I remember reading a short story in a science fiction anthology years ago. The background premise was that pretty much everyone who ate beef had been infected with CJD by the time it was discovered, pretty much dropkicking the Western world in the testicles. India then became the global supervisor due to Hindu dietary restrictions. I can't remember who wrote it or where, but I'm pretty sure the protagonists were British survivors producing Bollywood knockoffs.

Soylent Yellow
Nov 5, 2010

yospos

That's the one. Thanks.

Soylent Yellow
Nov 5, 2010

yospos

Buckingham Palace really should just hang him out to dry. The current batch of royals have been popping out heirs all over the place lately, so the chance of him getting the throne is practically nil. If they time it right, a no-deal brexit would be a wonderful oportunity to air dirty laundry.

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Soylent Yellow
Nov 5, 2010

yospos

NotJustANumber99 posted:

Queen quite likes him.

I suppose he has the whole "Isn't Charles" thing going for him.

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