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Erulisse
Feb 12, 2019

A bad poster trying to get better.
If you'd throw $2.5m at Freelancer™ you could get a decent remaster with all the features like real economy, proper balance, meaningful destroyable ship parts, big universe, etc etc etc.

But hey, they had $250m, I still have hope that one day I'll be able to buy SC. And if not, I don't care, I never backed :D

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Erulisse
Feb 12, 2019

A bad poster trying to get better.

Rugganovich posted:

Sweet. I need people on the internet to tell me how to think.
Now show me on the doll where the bagman touched you.

EDIT:
I'm loving outraged at internet people.

First time on SA when avatar is so relevant to the post

Erulisse
Feb 12, 2019

A bad poster trying to get better.
If there was a betting on when SC (at least sq42) releases, what year would you bet on? Mid 20-s or early 30-s?

Erulisse
Feb 12, 2019

A bad poster trying to get better.

Rotten Red Rod posted:

Real, no-joke answer: never.

For SQ42, there's no indication they're moving in a direction towards release. Each time they actually show a vertical slice or trailer of some kind, months later, they seem to have started over again and scrapped all previous work. The roadmap shows pretty clearly they have no idea what they're doing. And on some level, CR and the rest of CIG MUST know that releasing SQ42 and it bombing will doom the project. They're better off delaying it indefinitely, since SQ42 seems to be impossible for them to finish.

I think eventually, SQ42 will just be scrapped with some justification like focusing on the PU, maybe with some sort of story-like content in the PU with the leftover assets as a consolation, if CR is feeling generous. The PU will putter on as an alpha forever. Backers seem to be perfectly happy to dump money into the Alpha - why mess that up with an actual release?

Or, more likely, both will crash and burn when the funding starts to dry up and SQ42 will never see the light of day. But, again, who knows how long THAT will be, with CR's seeming endless ability to pull money from backers' and investors' pockets.

Might be a Freelancer style 'singleplayer' and 'multiplayer' menu, or a choice to do 'Main quest' being sq42 right in the middle of the PU, like its done in warframe.
Anyway, I got the main idea from people's thought in reply to your post. Thanks

Erulisse
Feb 12, 2019

A bad poster trying to get better.

colonelwest posted:

Every single photon entering the atmosphere is fully simulated, it might be hard for your FUDster mind to comprehend, but Star Citizen isn’t one of your poo poo tier non-fidelity games, it’s a full blown universe simulation. The foundation has already been laid, and once Socks version 2 is in, scientists will be using Star Citizen to test advanced theories in physics and cosmology.

Is it megamind sarcasm or...?

I would have believed if they did something properly at least. Or delivered something. It even would explain setbacks and delays - oh cmon almost 8 years instead of two, thats 4 times more than we initially were promised. And yet they are nowhere near even the beta stages.

Erulisse
Feb 12, 2019

A bad poster trying to get better.

Zaphod42 posted:

//

If the game ever releases they'll instantly go bankrupt.

I know at least ten people personally who in case of proper game release and delivery of at least half of the promised features and functions will throw monies at CIG, buying at least two carriers and quite some ships.
And they are not alone, I guess.

Erulisse
Feb 12, 2019

A bad poster trying to get better.

Pharohman777 posted:

Thats the funny thing: most of the backers don't seem to realize everyone who wants the game already has it

This is not the case.
Unless I win the lottery this Christmas I aint buying nothing until release. If I win tho, I'll buy me a big rear end carrier to at least spin it at noob station.

Erulisse
Feb 12, 2019

A bad poster trying to get better.

Ambaire posted:

I think what resonated with me most about the longer quoted section is how perfectly it seems to fit for anything from flat earth theories to star citizen fanbois to even multi level marketing scams. Humanity is still mostly a mass of dumb sheep... I do admit that human psychology continually fascinates me. Why do we .. x. Why do our brains make us think/do/say z. etc. Am I really in control of my actions, or am I merely a trembling mass of programmed flesh? (insert Disco Elysium quotes)

Yes we are in control of our actions. It's just called 'self-conscious', 'self-aware' living. People just dont want to. Its easier and happier to eat tasty big mac and blame others of enforcing 'unreal body standards'. More 'woke' people try to eat healthy but still they don't stop to think and apply earned 'thinking' expirience to their whole life. /food is just an example/
Man its early morning here, we need a separate thread about psychology.

Erulisse fucked around with this message at 04:27 on Dec 22, 2019

Erulisse
Feb 12, 2019

A bad poster trying to get better.

stingtwo posted:

"Star citizen is the only game doing it all at once with high end graphics"

Does it have ray tracing?

Erulisse
Feb 12, 2019

A bad poster trying to get better.
Lore of what, of a half assed planetoid, a station and supertech that lets you fall through floors?

Erulisse
Feb 12, 2019

A bad poster trying to get better.

Dogeh posted:

If it was truly Open Development, shouldn't every Dev have a Twitch/Mixer account and be live streaming their progress?
I would love to see Crobber working those opposable thumbs while regaling us with stories about pixels.

Why do you need a 24/7 coke party stream from a yacht?

Erulisse
Feb 12, 2019

A bad poster trying to get better.

ggangensis posted:

Holy crap, where are these quotes from? In 2020 they are even more hilarious

Imagine finding this thread later in 2036 and finding out that the hype is still the same, but 20 years later?

Erulisse
Feb 12, 2019

A bad poster trying to get better.

ggangensis posted:

As there are Wing Commander historians, there will be Star Citizen historians. And they will have a hard time creating a truthful and consistent picture, with the ever-changing narrative, smoke&mirrors by backers or CIG and such. And hell, we will need them. Drawing a correct picture of the Mid-Tudor Crises is a calk walk compared to working through all the lies and changed history since Star Citizens and SQ54 inception.

Makes me wonder if the creator of these pics still a supporter or already refunded

Erulisse
Feb 12, 2019

A bad poster trying to get better.

But can you see your meal's reflection in your character's eye iris? In Star Citizen YOU CAN!!11

Erulisse
Feb 12, 2019

A bad poster trying to get better.

I laugh at this with the same sad attitude I laughed at 'planned' Avatar 2, 3, 4 and 5 releases that Cameron moved almost 10 years in future.

Erulisse
Feb 12, 2019

A bad poster trying to get better.

Erenthal posted:

Since it seems that 2020 ain't the year I get to play the best drat single player space fighter game ever, time to start looking for alternatives I guess

Is Rebel Galaxy: Outlaw any good? I was super hyped for it all summer but I plain forgot about it at release. Worth getting for my dogfight jollies?

Welcome to the best space sim ever.

Erulisse
Feb 12, 2019

A bad poster trying to get better.

Daztek posted:



... Has this been posted yet?

Delivery date Q2 2020*

*may be subject to change, product not yet avaliable, by clicking 'BUY' you accept all the rules and conditions of a preorder of yet unexisting item

Erulisse
Feb 12, 2019

A bad poster trying to get better.
snyped

Agony Aunt posted:

a lot of backers might just actually, finally, start asking some hard questions.

History shows that this is not the case.

Erulisse
Feb 12, 2019

A bad poster trying to get better.

ErrEff posted:

Looks like a rare bug but it's definitely affected a few players. These issues all describe the same symptoms, with a few reproductions.

PLAYER'S EYES MISSING CAUSING HUD ELEMENTS TO DISAPPEAR
MISSING INFORMATION ON HUD
STAR MAP LABELS MISSING
NO MAKERS AND OTHER HINTS ON MY HUD
HUD DOESN'T WORK ANYMORE

Apparently solved by going into character customization and reapplying an eye color. What a stupid bug and so perfectly Star Citizen.

R E A L I S M

Erulisse
Feb 12, 2019

A bad poster trying to get better.


Imagine how many people from this number is already dead. Their relatives would be looking for inheritance, savings and only thing they can find is a lousy email spam about some stupid 'game' that is not even released yet and will never be.

Erulisse
Feb 12, 2019

A bad poster trying to get better.

Just take a generic D&D like and swap dungeons to space and dragons to targoids aliens and you're set.


Sanya Juutilainen posted:

Then it would be more (obviously, duh), but based on shots of the most hardcore community (the scamlunch, CitCONs) where I'd expect a bigger-than-average percent of these people, I think they are on average within population normal distribution.

https://i.imgur.com/zSXePmY.jpg
Yeah I was thinking about general 1% mortality rate, which makes this around 25k but with adding secondary accounts its closer to 10k, but with many of these people being basement dwellers overweight 40+ with lots of disposable income we could still safely assume >25k. Sad.

Erulisse fucked around with this message at 15:08 on Jan 13, 2020

Erulisse
Feb 12, 2019

A bad poster trying to get better.

Sanya Juutilainen posted:

Or use generic RPG system (those that are designed to give you base system, but setting is up to you) like d20, FUDGE / Fate, GURPS or Interlock (or one of the dozens of other ones) and just craft your own Scam Bitizen universe with the ultimate baddie Rhris Coberts!

No-man no-bear Crobear, the wizard who stole all our gold!

Erulisse
Feb 12, 2019

A bad poster trying to get better.

Scruffpuff posted:

I still don't understand what's keeping Elite from adding more of a *point* to the game, for those of us that need some sort of external motivation to get moving.

Some sandbox games already do this, so it's not exactly uncharted territory. GTA5 has a considerable campaign that takes you through most of the available gameplay, but the sandbox mode still lets you do all that and more on your own time, at your own pace, and making your own goals. It doesn't have to be either/or, but for me the background radiation of "oh there's aliens, somewhere, and that means, something" isn't enough to make me start caring. Give me some kind of immediate, personal stake, and lead me into the larger picture over time.

Lack of competition is why FDev is delaying everything and not putting stuff out. Im drowning in Elite's lack of content atm and I love it. I guess I would just die of dehydration in front of my PC if everything that SC promised back with the initial kickstarter would be released all at once.


Beet Wagon posted:

When he got called out, David Ladyman swore up and down he had done all the artwork himself, and Archer posted a "step by step" version of how he drew it that made everyone laugh their asses off:

How many times were they caught copying already? Five?

Erulisse
Feb 12, 2019

A bad poster trying to get better.
Star Citizen: Crytek 2 The Left Of Me, Calders To The Right, I'm Stuck Here With The North Pole

Erulisse
Feb 12, 2019

A bad poster trying to get better.

Inacio posted:



at least he can buy an ugly (probably nonfunctional, just like the game) keyboard with His signature!

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Star-Citizen-Horizon-Saitek-Gaming-Keyboard-PROTOTYPE-LIMITED-EDITION-/164022804528

someone buy it and spraypaint it to make it Elite: Dangerous themed

Its not even RGB, what a scam!
Oh wait

Erulisse
Feb 12, 2019

A bad poster trying to get better.

colonelwest posted:

The sad part about Star Citizen is that no one is ever going to be given 300 million dollars to make a space sim again; and we’re only left to imagine what competent devs could have done with all of that money and 8 years.

Cyberwitcher in space with whole milky way procedurally generated from scientific data plus few hundred properly designed and balanced ships plus proper landing on planets, walking and driving and player made market. Also with time travel.
And hookers.

Erulisse
Feb 12, 2019

A bad poster trying to get better.

jarlywarly posted:

My opinion is space games are hard to do well, just huge expanses you have to try fill with content and no way to artificially limit the players that won't feel contrived and MP just adds more problems.

Slap eve-o and e:d together and you have it.

Erulisse
Feb 12, 2019

A bad poster trying to get better.

Time_pants posted:

It's hilarious that, usually, this is just a Futurama reference, but in the case of Star Citizen, it's actually one of the most highly demanded features.

I didn't include blackjack just to honor people who actually received the backers money lmao

Erulisse
Feb 12, 2019

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I was NOT loving ready to be hurt in a thread about Shart Scamizen.

Erulisse
Feb 12, 2019

A bad poster trying to get better.

Songbearer posted:

If Common Knowledge had the same weight as evidence nobody would have funded Star Citizen

If common sense was common the world would have been a better place. But it's not.

Erulisse
Feb 12, 2019

A bad poster trying to get better.
Star Citizen: refunding is a hate crime

Erulisse
Feb 12, 2019

A bad poster trying to get better.

Quavers posted:

Stop telling new players to upgrade their ship before they have even played the game.

Levels of irony I cant even

Erulisse
Feb 12, 2019

A bad poster trying to get better.
If you are having problems running SC, be it bugs in the game or the launcher, please do the next:

1. create a notepad file on your desktop
2. open it and paste the following there, copy and paste the path to your SC folder into quotation marks
code:
Echo Fixing your SC installation
@RD /S /Q "path to your SC folder"
3. save it as starcitizen.bat
4. run it every time before running star citizen launcher


obviously don't do it but you can share the instruction with shartshitizens on their subreddit

Erulisse fucked around with this message at 12:11 on Jan 28, 2020

Erulisse
Feb 12, 2019

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Rotten Red Rod posted:

The whole concept of prison mechanics are funny to me, I don't know why they think it will be inherently better that the space police arrest you instead of just shooting you. Anyone actually engaging in illegal smuggling gameplay will likely want to outrun/fight the law anyway, so it's just adding tedium and annoying mechanics for people not trying to engage with the system at all.

There's a reason the GTA games make getting "WASTED" and "BUSTED" functionally the same - either way it's just a time and progress penalty, so why expand it beyond that if it doesn't do anything fun?

But Crobbler has a space police fetish and there's enough tedious gamedad citizens who love the idea of being inderdicted over and over, so... Prison gameplay it is!

Because Elite already implemented prison.

Erulisse
Feb 12, 2019

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MedicineHut posted:

Star Citizen: Our Patience is not Endless, Our Development is

Star Citizen: Our Money is not Endless, Your Money is

Erulisse
Feb 12, 2019

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ErrEff posted:

Don't check that thread if you're allergic to gun conversations. Yiiiiikeeeees.

And its not even gun porn because the clip actually clips through the gun and flies like 90 degrees from the vector the 'character' launched it.
Its even worse than that SAM launcher missile 'launch' from two weeks ago.

Erulisse
Feb 12, 2019

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Hav posted:

So, Eve Online's model, then. Groovy. 'That will be next year' was half a year ago, though.

Has Erin slid under the table in comedy Dilbert fashion?

Meanwhile still dying, EVE-O partnered with HADEAN's Aether engine and together they are trying to implement new packet tech and continuous server allocation so it will be way more people on the same server instance, tens of thousands. Also featuring seamless transitions between servers with no loading/connecting time.

Erulisse
Feb 12, 2019

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Colostomy Bag posted:

Five pounds of 10 dollar bills is a huge wad to shove up the fart box.

Still better than shoving them into crobears yacht

Erulisse
Feb 12, 2019

A bad poster trying to get better.

Inacio posted:

requesting the yacht photos with the Chris quote underneath please

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Erulisse
Feb 12, 2019

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JugbandDude posted:

When you think about 6+ legal team, barista, executive assistant, art, lore, animation, sound teams, it's not hard to picture where the money is going.

I like to compare this to Paradox, which was a small self funded developer for a long time. Even after releasing several successful titles and becoming a publisher, they still ran a very tight ship, to the point where they openly admitted selling separate DLC to fund specific art teams that could not be funded by regular game sales.

How much was for Hollywood actors mocap?

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